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EPISODE · Nov 11, 2025 · 1H 12M

The Breaking Bad Approach To Marketing Content with Tommy Walker

from Horizons Pod with Nate Desmond · host Marketing insights from the cutting edge of growth

Listen now on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple.—Tommy Walker is a content marketing strategist and founder of The Content Studio, who pioneered content programs at Shopify Plus and served as Global Editor-in-Chief at QuickBooks.Here’s some of my takeaways from this week’s episode…1/ 🎭 Want vs Need > Surface SolutionsMarketing often addresses surface wants (better landing pages, more traffic) but neglects deeper psychological needs (validation, job security, creative autonomy). Understanding and addressing both layers creates more resonant content.2/ 🎯 Find The Common SparkDon’t segment audiences into endless personas. Instead, identify the core motivation that unites your target customers (eg, Shopify Plus: “making their dent in the universe” vs QuickBooks: “independence on their own terms”).3/ 🎬 Content Calendar = Story Arc Structure content like a TV season: Break quarters into acts, months into episodes, pieces into scenes. Each needs clear objectives, conflicts, and story beats that build toward resolving your audience’s central challenge.4/ 🎨 The 70/30 Archetype RuleIdentify your audience’s primary archetype (70%) and secondary influence (30%). Understanding their values, fears and success strategies helps craft content that truly resonates with their worldview.5/ 👥 Map The Functional CastYour audience doesn’t operate in isolation. Create a “show bible” documenting the key players (allies, antagonists, mentors, gatekeepers) who influence their decisions and shape their story.6/ 🔄 Setup & Payoff ContentCreate content that references back to previous pieces and foreshadows future ones. This builds anticipation and increases retention rates 50-60% by making content more “bingeable.”7/ 🗣️ Words Behind WordsDon’t just write surface-level content. Map the subtext and emotional undercurrents, like screenwriters do before writing dialogue. This adds depth that resonates with readers’ unstated needs.—Where to find Tommy Walker:* The Content Studio: https://www.thecontentstudio.com/* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tommyismyname/* X: https://x.com/tommyismyname—In this episode, we cover:00:00 Opening Question on Words and Weapons02:15 Stanislavski Method and Marketing08:54 Applying Acting Methods to Landing Pages14:02 Experience at QuickBooks and Customer Personas19:52 Content Strategy and Common Threads25:04 Storytelling in Content Marketing30:15 Content Calendar Structure35:42 Breaking Down Content into Acts40:12 Strategic Content Planning Example45:26 Functional Cast Design50:18 Using AI in Content Strategy55:32 Jungian Archetypes in Marketing1:04:47 Breaking Bad Case Study1:09:10 Final Thoughts on Content Creation—Obligatory disclaimer: I've worked at YouTube and Google for about a decade in various marketing teams. Nothing I say in my personal spaces is necessarily endorsed by them. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit horizonspod.substack.com

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