The Buddy Chat! A new wrinkle (or scale?) in this podcast where I talk to some of my buddies.

Jessica Kestermann loves to remind me that she is exactly half my age. Ha ha. Still, we met on a cold, January morning a few years ago at Pedernales State Park, where we warmed up inside a mutual friend's Prius and got to know each other as our other friends finished their longer miles. Since then, we've tackled Rocky Raccoon half-marathon prior to the 2021 Big Texas Freeze. Later that year, I dragged her to Marble Falls to volunteer at the Trivium race. She is an ultrarunner, but considers herself a roadie at heart. I don't know about that.