The Call Nobody Wants to Make

Ryan Calkins and John Moore get into what it actually feels like to be forced into a decision when you don't have nearly enough information, but can't wait any longer. An honest conversation about perfectionism, pressure from above, who absorbs the damage when decisions get rushed, and whether some of the calls that "worked" were strategy or just luck.Full Show NotesMost leadership content will tell you how to make better decisions. This episode is about what it's actually like to make decisions when you can't.Ryan and John talk through the real experience of decision paralysis — not as a concept, but as something that happens in the middle of real projects with real stakes. They get into:What it looks like when leadership pushes a launch, a training rollout, or a system migration before anyone actually has what they need, and who ends up taking the hit when it goes sidewaysRyan's early experience in consulting, where perfectionism kept him revising off the clock, and the moment a senior VP told him "having something to work with is better than perfection nobody ever sees"John's experience being accountable for outcomes he couldn't fully control — training 140 people with four trainers on a compressed timeline, under leadership that already doubted himThe question they keep coming back to: is it ever better to delay the call, or does stalling sometimes cause more damage than making the wrong decision quickly?And an honest look at whether some decisions that "worked" were actually sound calls, or whether people got lucky and the result just made it look like geniusNo clean answers here. Just two people who've been in it, talking through what it actually felt like."Leading ain't easy, but you don't have to do it alone."Leading Ain't Easy was created by Ryan Calkins and Erny Epley, and is hosted by Ryan and John Moore.Ryan is the founder of Reframe & Rise, where he works with veterans who transitioned successfully but still feel something's off; helping them find alignment, not just a better job title.John is a certified life and career coach with 20+ years of experience helping people navigate transitions, find purpose, and lead with intention — drawing on backgrounds in corporate leadership, counseling, and entrepreneurship.Erny runs Bus Pro Network, supporting school transportation leaders across California with training and development, and joins the show as an occasional guest.Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you listen. Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram for clips, prompts, and behind-the-scenes updates. If this episode resonated, please leave a review as it helps more leaders find us.