The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast - The Death of Secularism: Matt Chandler on Why Pastors Shouldn't Wear Capes and When the Church Is All Wood and No Fire

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Matt Chandler doesn't pull punches. The lead pastor of The Village Church joins Carey to talk about why wearing a cape doesn't help anyone, the death of secularism, and why the church is all wood and no fire. Matt also opens up about the moment he almost quit, what Spurgeon taught him about suffering, and why he stopped neglecting the Holy Spirit. Show Notes AI and the Future Church - NEW BOOK! ️ Preaching Cheat Sheet The Art of Leadership Academy <span data-sheets-v

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