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EPISODE · Jun 4, 2026 · 51 MIN

The CEO Who Doesn't Measure Wealth in Money, with Matt Mudford

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This week on the Ways to Wealth Podcast, Charlie speaks to Matt Mudford, CEO of Ngāpuhi Asset Holding Company, the commercial arm of the largest iwi in New Zealand.On paper, Matt runs a $100 million portfolio. In practice, he thinks about something most CEOs never have to. He is not managing money for shareholders who want a return next quarter. He is managing it for 200,000 people, most of them young, many of them paycheck to paycheck, across generations that stretch back to the signing of He Whakaputanga and forward to grandchildren not yet born.Matt grew up working class in South Auckland. His dad worked at Fisher and Paykel before driving taxis. His mum was a social worker. He watched his cousins, who came from the same grandparents, face challenges he somehow got a clear run from. That gap never sat right with him, and it became the thing that drives everything he does now.What makes this conversation different from almost any other you'll hear with someone running a fund this size is what Matt says he wants to be remembered for. It isn't the assets he grows or the returns he makes. He'll tell you the deals get done over a cup of tea, that his guiding lights are his ancestors and his mokopuna, and that he refuses to let a Treaty settlement he can't control define the future of his people. He is building that future now, on his own terms, and he is not waiting for permission.This might be the most important conversation we've had on the show.Watch every episode of the Ways to Wealth Podcast hereLearn more about Matt hereLearn more about Ngāpuhi Asset Holding Company hereTimestamps: 00:00 Intro01:01 Who is Matt?02:19 Making Change04:11 Opportunities 07:00 Access 15:29 Sovereignty 17:13 Young People19:44 Internships32:18 Excitement35:26 Community38:45 Challenge47:43 Equality#waystowealth #ngāpuhi #māori #iwi #economicsovereignty #leadership #nzbusiness #investing #intergenerationalwealth #community #assetmanagement #aotearoa #wealthbeyondmoney #wealthbuilding

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