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EPISODE · Jul 29, 2026 · 41 MIN

The Clause in Her Contract Almost Silenced Her with Gretchen Carlson

from Takin' Care of Lady Business® · host Jennifer Justice

You negotiate your salary. You negotiate your title. But what if the biggest negotiation is buried in the paperwork you sign before your first day?Takin' Care of Lady Business Episode 163On this episode of Takin' Care of Lady Business, Jennifer Justice sits down with Gretchen Carlson, journalist and Co-founder of Lift Our Voices, to unpack the hidden contract clauses that shift power away from employees without them realizing, before anything ever goes wrong.After her landmark lawsuit against Roger Ailes and Fox News, Gretchen discovered just how much leverage employers gain through forced arbitration and NDAs. What began as one woman's fight became a movement that helped pass two bipartisan federal laws and continues to reshape how workers understand their rights.Together, Jennifer and Gretchen explore why legal protections only matter if you know they exist, how culture changes more slowly than legislation, and why understanding the contracts you sign is one of the smartest investments you can make in your own career. Because power isn't just about what happens when something goes wrong. It's about knowing what you're agreeing to before it ever does.What You'll Learn:How to recognize when a contract understatedly limits your leverageThe difference between forced arbitration and NDAs – and why it mattersWhat Gretchen Carlson's lawsuit changed for workers across the countryWhy changing the law is only the first step toward changing workplace cultureThe questions every employee should ask before signing an employment agreementHighlights:(00:00) Meet Gretchen Carlson(01:02) Suing Roger Ailes at Fox News(02:08) Deciding to file the lawsuit(04:56) How her kids handled the fallout(09:58) Discovering the arbitration clause in her contract(12:11) Why forced arbitration was never meant for this(14:21) Only 2% of employees win in arbitration(16:47) NDAs versus forced arbitration explained(19:07) The Love Where You Work AI tool(23:54) Fighting cultural silence around speaking up(29:30) States banning NDAs in settlements(38:33) The worst advice she ever receivedAbout Our Guest:Gretchen Carlson is an award-winning journalist, bestselling author, and co-founder of Lift Our Voices, a nonprofit dedicated to ending workplace silencing mechanisms. After her landmark lawsuit against former Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes, she became a leading advocate for ending forced arbitration and non-disclosure agreements, helping pass two landmark bipartisan workplace reform laws in 2022. A former CBS News and Fox News anchor, Gretchen is also a CNN contributor, TED speaker, and author of the New York Times bestsellers Be Fierce and Getting Real.  Today, Lift Our Voices continues to push for state-level legislation, educate workers through its free Love Where You Work AI tool, and share survivor stories through its #LoveJustice campaign.Gretchen Carlson’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gretchen-carlson/ Gretchen Carlson’s Website: https://www.gretchencarlson.com/ Gretchen Carlson’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gretchencarlson/ Explore Lift Our Voices: https://liftourvoices.org/ About Jennifer Justice and The Justice Dept.JJ’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-justice-354a0b99The Justice Dept: https://www.thejusticedept.com/JJ’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jenniferjusticel/ Newsletter: https://tkolb-newsletter-a50814.beehiiv.com/JJ’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TakinCareOfLadyBusiness The Justice Dept. is a female-focused advisory, consulting, and law firm advocating for female founders, talent, execs, and brands. We represent bo$$ ladies to make them 💰💰.If you love what you hear, please subscribe and share with a friend.This is a Lady Business LLC Production.

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