The Conjuring 2

It's the second movie and I still don't know why I spelled the conjuring. I'll tell you why. Tell me. I'm Halloween or it's a horror movie podcast.

I'm Cody. I'm Kira. That was great. Thank you.

But I don't know why. Please listen or tell us why I spelled the conjuring. It was good. It was comedic.

It was, yeah, I don't quite know why, but I will say, now that we are going to be talking about the second. The conjuring too. The second conjuring. The second conjunction.

Conjugation. Conjugation. Conjugation. The second constipation.

These are kid jokes. I think I'm going right off. I think I like this one a little bit better to a degree. I don't think it would.

I don't think I want to say better. I think I enjoyed this story a little more to a degree. But similar to the conjuring uno, I don't remember the ending because it's like bam, bam, then, then, then. Okay, so yeah, the ending, you know, just kind of, how do you wrap it up?

I mean, you could, but you know, I'm just not much fan of the ending. But I liked it with this one. There's like, you're not sure either. So that's always a fun little element, the kind of, you know, sanity and like, you know, what is being portrayed, what is Tom Foolery.

This one even more than the first one also plays with like, doubt and. Goodnight. It is. Viola.

Aloysius. That was a real thing. Oh, okay, okay, okay. It's like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, this is a real thing.

Is that Viola Davis's middle name? Viola, Aloysius, David. That'd be pretty fucking baller though. But yeah, that's just my, I want to throw that out there now because I was feeling that bad.

I was with her good friends. Last time, previously on the Conjuring. Where did the Sarcura? So, oh, oh, I want to fucking know.

Maybe, why don't you go on Sunrise Highway and head fucking west towards Manhattan if you're coming from where I'm from. I don't know which exit it is, but it's Amnieville, Long Island, New York, Nassau, County, I'm from Suffolk, but Nassau. It's really Nassau County. Nassau County.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no. Here is a home island is offended. Good. Well, I guess I've just detached myself.

Have you been to Amnieville? How much money? I never actually went growing up because I was a pussy. No, that's not a negative term.

I was a very fearful person. And but we did go one night during college, which was fun. And it's a beautiful house. Yeah, it's gorgeous.

It really is gorgeous. Okay, so yeah, Annie Vellitz and Suffolk County. There's so much inside Long Island, I don't know. I'm just kidding.

I don't know. Suffolk County, 631, don't get it twisted. It's yeah, so gorgeous house. Okay, so yeah, I knew someone else is a real story.

But I remember we had a friend whose mom was an interesting character. And she was like, yeah, I remember back when we used to rob houses. We broke into the Amnieville house. And it felt weird in there.

You were a criminal. You were breaking into a house. You were breaking into steel. Because they were like routines.

I don't know. I think she was breaking. I don't know. Someone's mom.

I didn't ask questions. I think it was to maybe steal something. I don't know. I don't know.

But it's not the only person I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask you to tell me that. Did you ever go to college? No.

I should have. I should have. Well, I mean, it's kind of like a weird. Just like anemade house.

And then what is that? And it's like a schlep for my room in school. It's like a 40 minutes. And it's just like a house.

Just like a drop-off. He like, people died there. I couldn't imagine how many pictures I had taken on the house everyday. And I would feel weird adding to sensationalism.

I don't want to. We go the parents. We go the parents. Yeah.

A cup of a. Stay on the pull-out couch. No one uses it anymore. So it starts with the brief investigation of the Amityville house.

Yes. They did real life. Yeah. Most famous case.

But I like that they're not spending an entire movie on it. Unless I'm mistaken unless I'm misread or I mistook or whatever I read was incorrect information. Tell me if I'm wrong It's to my understanding that the story of the Annabelle horror is very heavily copyrighted and like heavy very heavily protected So there that's why there's no mention really no mention of Annie Bill. I don't even think I don't think the word is said It's just a long island.

What do you say? I'm gonna go to the long island. I thought it's an annual New York I want to go check the movie. Okay.

Yeah, so that's why also they couldn't really because obviously they don't make a great fucking movie But they couldn't do a whole movie on the animal horror because they would then have to pay whoever the fuck it was To do all that so it does say any film movie, but they never say like that They seem to be the most family. Yeah, and they should have like Ron Defeo and all that but all that again is public records You can't correct crime. No, I'm guessing they couldn't say certain things about like the family that came after it Because this talk about the shooting of the family that like moved in right and then how those claims and you know They're just about doing like bear for me going like wow this Annie Village or horror Story all this horror here in anville Amityville horror So right there I knew that they can't legally do like the annual horror story I was like what interesting choice could be obvious thing would be like do the most famous case for the second one sure They don't yeah, I mean maybe there was an artistic choice there. I don't want to discredit that But I can see the studio being like I'm happy though.

You know Hey, my need some line work And folks all folks eat with me in the whole cigarette. I'm also I also like that starts out with Lorraine doing some voice over saying Like we've had in many cases, but this this is the one case that was almost too much to talk about What's the thing is about the covering one like how many cases do you have that are like? I was just I've never talked about it till now. That's so funny.

I mean, they're just all really dramatic I mean they are but like she's a sensitive so So this one we it's there. It's and Lorraine they're there and they're and they're and they're and they're talking about she and the boys over she does mention like well Ron and kind of really explain what happened and so they're doing a seance and the Like cool light change we kind of zoom in on her eyes and her eyes are almost like golden looking and like Everything else is gray and she gets up and she starts walking around and she literally starts the whole that whole scene or that point when she's kind of mimeing the shotgun and she's like Oh, and she sees his reflection. I was into it. They're like jerking us at the ending like when she's on the outside The bullgo and you see that yeah, yeah, and like just even like the way it's done We're like there was like a retraction of hands like it's really cool and like I thought that was a cool way to do it because it's also being like Hey, it's a cool artistic choice.

It looks really cool was really well done by everybody involved But also it's a good way to be like if you don't have a story here's a real quick It's also shocking to see somebody like Vera from you go be like I'm shooting kids Yeah, I love you like well sleeping children Yeah, and right away you can tell they cut more money Yeah, oh yeah, I think the budget for this is double with the last one was Oh, you can tell because there's the camera work is even better in this one. Yeah, the first one is tech wise I think is the sound and this one is in the room. Oh, okay interesting like that the budget for the first one was $20 million what challenge oh my god, that was the first one is 20 million Most of our cheap five million dollars. It's like typical for like a learning party in the second one.

Yeah, 40 million So the second movie exactly I got it. Oh my god. It's the first one. I have yeah, it shows like the effects are better in this one The smart honky is really good.

Yeah, sure that I'm sure the two leads were like we're gonna ask to double our salary Thank you. Oh, we'll do it for free. We'll do it for the past day Oh, yeah, um Fantastic, but you're a little ghost boy that she sees in anyville. Um, I know she sees something And that's when she goes to the basement.

It's a little boy. Yeah, it's um, it's supposed to look like the like quote In quotations real photo that's taking any deal where the ghost boy. Oh, I didn't even think of that. I'm sure I have You bring it up bring it up bring it up bring it up.

We're gonna honestly post this. No fucking look it up yourself Go get a damn self and you go boy boy. Oh, I remember this. Hey, but wasn't like this ticket Yeah, I'm gonna be the hoax.

Yeah, it's still in the movie inspiration. I'm gonna be it kind of looks like that Oh, I didn't catch that. That's so fun though. Like I do like like I that's I mean care.

Yeah, you know, obviously people died That's not fun, but like this booby part so fun. I love playing. I love playing with spooky part I didn't like that. Um, so yeah, she goes to the basement.

Yes, and she sees who she see see did she see the none? Yeah, okay, I can remember what I'm gonna get here early so she goes down there and there's four kids They were killed right down there and they point her with their heads towards this covered mirror She uncovers her and she sees the none behind her. It's far away first. Oh, she looks back is right behind her She turns away.

She looks back as one footer. Don't know you that Marley's And here's where she sees the first vision of Ed dying now Do we actually see in that moment because TV Okay, because TV H I watch this on the TV in my bedroom and the like the lighting on the screen really So they're pointing this movie very dark so we're moments from like am I meant to not see or is this shitty television? Yeah, it was in that one. I don't think he sees face and you definitely don't see the trees by going to him Yeah, you hear something and she screams a lot.

I think yeah, yeah, and her actions great So she's a good screamer good set of lungs on that Vara Vara And again what I like about these movies is that it doesn't treat the warrens are treated like any other profession like when they see a Deena sees the number first time she's not like she doesn't scream or jump she's kind of goes like Like it's part of the job. You know like if you're an exterment you saw a mouse even screen over time fuck right or cockroach whatever We get another opening scroll here. Oh, yes again The first one loved it connery to hi cool. Oh good job, and they're like cool.

Oh, and I forget. I think there's like last week Basically like yeah, they're in a no bad Well, that was a horror Oh, we're all horror as a picture of Ryan Gosling from the first one Yeah, most recent first one The first one meaning not the first one Oh, and then um Duh duh duh duh London I know like the clash in dive for this Damn I like of course I like London they're in England. Oh is it's not for them. Oh, I say I think Really funny Dude shut the fuck up.

I'm gonna sleep. Oh, I hear solo cups Enfield is a bro in North London. Well, I'm wrong still the clash and I die for this I will also I don't like commenting with all these movies. Oh, especially with this one because also later they think that's on the eyes Dotted a joke.

Yes, I laugh at that. We also We got it we got it we're in the 70s, but also and like that's also dramatic Um, yeah, this is a soundtrack is laughable and too obvious cuts of like London in the 70s. It's like the party in Margaret that sure That's the way all it is. That's it.

Um, she doesn't part out there. She was just like secretary of station She's like oh honey. I'm just gonna secretary all up in the state There's one clip of her. Um, but I thought my mother there's one clip of her Where I got the TV when the TV is like changing channels by it's up later.

Oh, huh? Just a clip of her and she goes yes, I am the I'm leaving like in Casey dumb Americans and know who she was that Meryl Streep movie This is her please please understand where we are when why it's just like what would you like that today? What like if they cut like a couple of Trump being like right? That's right and like or just I can stand down seven Avenue and shoot you know like that and then you know I ran agron day plays for montage That it's true, but it's like you know Oh, we need Janet our main girl and Janet what is her friend giver?

Oh what cigarette and we do Here's your own other London, you know, I can't say it. Here's your arm. Oh, they do say fags later from the cigarettes Yeah, I get to that I can I like to Yeah, but a fag me mouth. Oh, and don't you forget your Ouija board I'm here for that House and they're last name to laugh because it popped up.

Oh, I like oh, it's a family crazy Hod hodson's HODG so and when I thought I was like good luck Hopson's hod G. That's a weird spell. I think it's weird. I think it's weird.

Oh my god I'm gonna say like that. Yeah, that's understandable to me Really two souls only one consonants Okay two bowels and a whole lot of that dude I'm cool. So there's like chillin. They're just living the dream.

They're really rich everyone's well taken care of the fathers there Public housing for biscuits Baby honey, I'm talking like two white people like crispy non-flavable no talk chips They just want a simple biscuit Oh, so the youngest the youngest son he's like asking for cookies and the mother of the time of the mom's lime is so British It was um, I didn't get any bloody biscuits because we don't have any bloody money Oh, get it you have a queen no one has money in England bloody biscuits. No one is money everyone's poor The Hensie literature top and it's that no one in this city has money except for like two people Kinds it yourself Consider yourself a ghost Oh Some time before So the Sun has another much like the first one we got spooky toys and a lot of fucking kids a lot of kids Weird looking house. Yeah, this time spooky toy is it's called a zoetro. Yes Is used very randomly in horror movies because I think it's because of its old tiny Vibe to it which we as people of our age are like who anything like over mechanical like that.

I think to me like some sleepy hollow Oh, yeah, well not really no, it's more of a candle. That's a candle shade thing that they use He has a spinner fuck. He has a thing where it's like a bird on one side and a cave other But this specifically is like an old timey thing I think they use a similar thing and on House of Haunted Hill of the Oh, yeah, oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, this is though it's a little bit of the crooked man And it's the scariest fucking looking thing I've ever seen very scary and it's just there's a little scary into like Well later we see the other Janet the main daughter who's American by the way, but we see Janet later using it to help Billy Try to work through his stutter. They recite the rhyme along with it Billy something Yeah Both actually So we see the zoetro and then here we start another like tracking shot like the first one that shows us the geography of the house It's really smart Here's where this room is just keep this in mind.

Like a real set like this is a place we're like working here Just like show off look at the set we made oh we also see in addition to the upstairs we see The mom and her very British friends go in the basement to get to the laundry Oh, right and like she can't get anything right and the watching scene goes But also It's like amazingly decrepit in there. Let's be falling apart. Let's see it's haunted. It's like a raisin pond in there Like the basement is like flooded.

Oh, you're right. That was I never questioned that That's the true why was there so weird like you live like this like it's your house Like it was like a we didn't have the beginning of his water. Yeah, there were just in there I know fucking idea why when I go back to that part. I thought like me.

There's their basement Basement blooded Maybe you crazy Brits No, I know either the pond under their house. I can be good for the foundation. No, it's really good to have still still sitting water Yeah, it's not gonna get so good. Yeah, and you know great to be having you know around you know the kids just women So Janet is mostly walking the dollar Janet damn it Yeah, which like we're really serious.

Yeah, she's waking up in front of this old chair. That's in the living room Eventually this kind of escalates and what Janet wakes up and she is doing like two voices of one's remember this Like sitting on the bed right just turning inside and she's talking to Talking through her. Yeah, but it's saying it's talking to me I'm like really don't do that or not so weird and they're like having to back with competition with herself This is just listening along and at one point The voice is like overlap like in a way that would be impossible for her to oh, that's fun. I didn't catch that.

Yeah, they don't interrupt me bitch You had your turn and much like the first one some shit just like starts happening in the house that eventually gets us over the warms are called in this case it's like a Little boy has this ghost fire truck that keeps flying out of the tent Oh, right? He rolls it into the tent and then I rolled back It didn't it's a way he went we walked by the tent and it oh that was the moment He told them all my tears so my tent and I love when the little boy get them on me like clings to her It's like really that yeah, I still fucking do that Also, I can tell this is maybe on purpose or not or maybe it was just lighting But when we're watching the boy have this interaction with the ghost by the tent the tent looks way bigger than doesn't We're with the mom. Oh, yeah, I love that. That's right.

It does like and when she looks a light on it seems like Maybe or just the end is the way to the dark things way bigger and one Tim a dayton walk There's nothing holding in there. Hey wrong region This is a scene where I'm jans home alone from school and Right Oh, right and the remote ends up on the fucking chair Yes And then she looks into the TV when I like it turns off and she sees You know reflection and all man sitting in the chair holding the remote and he turns around the remote was floating whereas him would be in a dress Call the fucking fire department because you set your house on fire because that's what they do hi Can you help me set a fire? What if you called the fire department at the fire prevention? Fire fighters we do not provide the fire.

We are trying to We go back to the Warren's and These dreams I'm just painting this thing is on my dream and it's like bam. None. It's so scary And then it's not even like it's weird enough. They're like yeah, this is casual I just saw this thing as a nun that has no real eyes and it's pale You know we should do we should fucking hang it up right right here on the wall They do hang it on the wall.

I mean it's like it's good. It's good. It's good. It's good painting Well, you can see like looks at it's like a negative reaction to it and he's like oh, it's not it's not very good But I thought it was pretty good She's already seen it in her and you build it.

I was just like I know her I've seen this painting before your poser and your fake and your phone and you get the fucking my house Edward and he's like Name three albums really this you think you know this this is my dream bitch Oh, this is my idea I came up with it two years ago when I told my friend Becky and she told me a good idea and I wrote it down to my dream journal And you think you're gonna be my journal now. Wow, wow, wow Sweetie time has to go by the plot is just Very scary. Um, yeah, and then oh, yes, no one Okay, so once she starts um once she sees this non painting like it's confirmed that like this is a thing that other people have seen Some letters start peering around the house. I know this is the first time because it's like it's activated It's activated Something in the demon to be like I Start seeing the letters VA LA K around the house Literally there's a shot.

I think it's after she sees the painting I think it's I've taught me from home. They should move over to the kitchen They sit down the kitchen table and so it's one shot on her one shot on her and look at shot there's a word on one side It's like under the cross to where that is love and but the visa we big and there's like some letters Yeah, I think yeah, I was like a spice to the V on it. Yeah, and then the other side. Oh, I didn't see that one.

Yeah Oh, yeah, I'm the other side by Patrick Wilson Um, it's like crafts. It was like cute. Yeah, um, I know it's my first song theaters I was like what the fuck is that yeah, and then later it's um the demon's name and Like just needs child just guess their name. I think I'm a shady then calling me say it and See this and like with the name ballgas again from like the book of Solomon somewhere to watch it the payment reference in the battle Just my book into the Bible.

Yeah, I read last night. I just get up. Oh, but like it's the basically like a homey of Satan got it How's it all our I guess So back to the the house in Enfield in England More shit's going on Janet starting to tie herself to the bed with a jump rope so that she doesn't like sleep walk But that's means that tonight when the demon or the spirit come after her she can't get free Right. There's a cool shot where we're in the POV of the spirit like walking towards her the bed is very scary It's just brief not even clear that's POV like you think you might be looking for angle Oh, I was moving with the demon or the spirit which we don't see it So this scares the daughters they run some arms around like oh, I haven't even got a night Oh, yeah, check under the bed and she finds their spirit board right She's like yeah, I know it's like sweetie like the plan chat is like something like free It's like secretly cut up to ya.

Yeah, yeah My god And she's like oh this you're scaring yourself. I'm just gonna rip up this Ouija board that you use that could potentially Go through this whole thing and then a dresser just goes hey Like the for and then it yeah the dresser moves across the door shut up and then immediately smash that to them running across the street The neighbors all of them which I love because again like the first one he doesn't waste time on the fucking like The doubt what are you doing like go to bed? Yeah, every story for tonight right like that was quickly resolved Like she was just like the mom got evidence they got out of there and I'm like we don't time it to do the whole like Rimmer all of yeah doubting yeah, you know, I'm gonna sleep honey, you know I'm worried about you always be calling you know wish it's going to you know the bloody biscuits So they run across the street to the neighbor's house as you fuck you The neighbors call the cops and cops investigate and there's weird noises in the wall and a chair slides across the floor And then we again jump cut to the police walking outside going Yeah, it's no that don't break out. I got it.

That's yeah, and like they're like yeah, we we saw it But we don't go to the church we need to go pray to fucking hazy's crease day. I don't hurt them I always forget how jesus. These movies are well. Yeah, because Lorraine is actually religious.

Yeah, which is like kind of cool Because you think they'd be a little more like It's fascinating to me because I'm like I haven't done the research so but I in my very limited knowledge I've never heard of a person being possessed who wasn't like of a non-Catholic faith or like a non-Christian standpoint I've never heard of like a jubing possess. That's a good point though. I feel like most ghost hunters I know truly like actually personally and then also, you know on TV are Christian whether I know something about told me like the things I've seen like it's me need to leave in something right and you know Nothing inclusive, but you're gonna go to the religion that you were the raisoners like most accessible in this country Yeah, and with and you know in hell doesn't exist in Judaism, but like really There's like yeah, it's not even fine. Like and it was like Christianity obviously It's like I think I also with what fears these negative energies is like fear and with Catholicism Christianity There is a whole shit on fear so it comes to state because he's the opposite He's anti anti-cryse essentially like makes you know their bottles.

I know so I think that just feeds the negativity more And then just exacerbates the problem So just be chill that all if there's stories anybody other knows stories of anybody who was not In a Christian way and was possessed I would love to read those. Yeah, I mean like Yeah, I mean I guess there are ways like I remember actually there on the dark tourists on Netflix There's an episode he goes to Africa and he goes to these communities There are these cultures that follow or practice voodoo and there's an entire community where they get so like possessed essentially like entire Group who got possessed by this like demon and like it's just part of their like well Hold on it's my culture that they have to cut themselves So they'll like grab hands like this and then with the free hand cut their own fucking arm because they're just being possessed by this Demon that not demon. It's not demons. It's this spirit.

That's like I mean does it even have a number regardless they're being possessed and essentially like scary Where am I? Here's where we have I think the scariest part of the movie not the best part, but the scariest part which is um So we go back to the Warren's Lorraine's hanging out with her daughter. Oh, yes. This is literally scary.

Oh Love it. She is hanging out with the daughter and the daughter sees something pass into like wooden slats of the door next to her So I'm sorry shape. Yeah, she gets up goes on to the hallway and is frozen I see Lorraine come out. She says honey.

What's going on and the daughter goes mom? Who's that right? And your face a reaction first love that. You know, I love that You know what people seeing nothing that's scaring them before we see it right?

um and And the hallway who is it? Oh, it's not other than I don't know the problem like How do you get a ghost out of your house? Oh, yeah, so we just need to like figure it out like how far away it is and tangible It's it looks like a person so great and I love that it's far away because you're like what I remember my feet are going That's fun. That's fun.

I do like that And again because if you see it, it's just looking straight back and then it just turns and walks away And that it's kind of like it's just the be has a presence to it doesn't seem like a spirit It seems whole and another thing that I like about these movies and this movie because it even they didn't need to because they had a budget for cool CGI effects, yeah, this movie They use real people as much as possible for spirits anything. It's mostly it's either makeup or crazy costume I like that. Yeah, and they might end it around it to make it look more like spiritual, but they are real people Yeah, that's a real The actress from These are princess areas, you know when um me other marvelous goes to like some fancy dinner thing with the Andrews and like there's like Like the death jess with the Baroness. Oh, that's the one who something errands, right?

She plays valet She's in the nun. Yeah, like she's got it all across like she has like she really has like really beautiful eyes and like she's really really really tall I think she's pretty tall on the errands. Yeah, I mean the princess Hageries to please um, I'm just maulin drive cool. Oh fuck and maul Holland Drive.

She's that really scary part Oh, you love it first of all really? Oh, I know you're a small and drive. It's a lunge. Oh, we know I have her But I just definitely never seen it.

She plays That's so cool. She's um, let's be some more drive. No, I'm talking about the scary like homeless person scene There's this jump scare in the movie that is one of the scares in her life. What is so effective?

We should do that actually. I would have a little more money. But anyway, that's what we call she's great actress I mean she does the damn thing. She does the damn thing Okay, so wait, this is okay, so you see her and then is this when Lorraine then goes into the room where the painting just happens to be Okay, I love this.

I thought this was so fun. Yeah, she's there and then the music starts going on The night aggressive. She walks in And she walks in and behind her it looks like the face of the nun like right on her shoulder But she turns the light on into the painting. Oh, right which that effect and they it happened again when lights go off at times and like the Kind of like shape lingers.

Oh, that was so great. That's so great. Yeah, yeah Yeah, so she goes in she sees the painting and then the music starts playing Are there a legal saying? It's like a chill squire and the light turns off and she sees from far across the room It looks like the nun's face.

Yeah, she approaches it so slowly and it's not moving. They're like face to face Then she turns the light on and it's like oh, hey, kitty girl. It's so good and it turns away And she's like that's fine. I actually did watch this in my fingers And it's a way the light goes off and all this turns around to the lights off And then this is when we see like a shadow growing behind her yes And it goes around the room and it's going like over couches.

It doesn't give a shot And then oh, let me just snap into place And I just grab here with my hand and grab my other hand and then Run that yeah, yeah painting runs at her. Yeah, she's holding onto it Like a studio decision So good Again bear for me just she's she doesn't usually look terrified Yeah, I think because it's in her house and messing with shit in her house like yeah, yeah You know like I'm sure like with the household's they had a kid. I'm sure they took everything a fucking precaution to make sure all the all the vibes Are chill absolutely so it's like oh weekly staging seriously daily You just then you say So the painting chases her wearing some backwards she knocks over this is a virgin Mary said she that is just chilling in there She like it like turns with her cuz she knocks into it But she's very suddenly really just no she falls backwards into some boxes and suddenly she's back in the ambulance Right and we were she's like who are you what's your name? Oh, right?

It's like I She wakes back up she's she's been in her sleep carving into this Bible that she was holding right I was just telling you about my depression I'm failing eighth grade They're cute they're cute ones also great just 70s and On the bookshelves are behind them is by luck spelled out in letters. Oh, I think I was like oh Burn it down to the ground Metagulous I'm sure like greeting yeah good times everyone's feeling good about it everyone's happy Is that in that moment when she is in the basement? She sees vol like and she's screaming. What's her name?

We want is that when we actually see? We see the vision of Ed again like in the first time but sometimes he's face and something stabs through him It's like a like a like a it's kind of like a well. It's a sticky yeah giant Yeah So actually quick little thing because I was impatient tonight to want to wait for the movie to end I was like oh, I wonder if this is how did he die in real life So he got edges no longer on this planet and so I looked it up and I was like and he unfortunately passed from a heart attack And so before we ended I was like oh is this like a today doesn't I was pretty incorrect. Oh, that's what she comes back and she's written in the Bible Yes, we got to England there's a TV crew there now because somebody told the police were basically like Or somebody from the press was trying to get them on TV and she's like I don't want my face on the telly and They were like this is your best chance to like hopefully get help The story out there and maybe see you can help you out.

I do it They have a little interview with the TV and Janet starts talking like this old man Oh, what is his name is Bill Wilkins? He's 72 years old and this is my house and he's like I don't know He's like y'all aren't my family got a house. Where are they? It's like a deep little boy.

It's Janet sitting there. Yes, but it'll just be like So they're living girls this year for now The whole secret now and there's a they in the earlier we were introduced to a neighbor's dog Who is so good. He brings a little bell to the door when I was to go out I'm so cute. Wait, I'm sorry.

Also when we made a new Janet and she's speaking as Bill Wilkins We learned that my name is but we'll get them 72 years old. I died in that chair. Yes I'm like brain exploding I don't care about brain exploding. There's like your brain flows.

Yeah, I mean I guess it's cool The young boy here's the bell ringing and goes to get let the dog out the dog sitting by the back door Oh Well cuz he was actually because a little boy and he's like we guys here. I'll let the put the phone out And then he opens the back door and I thought I was like this dog is gonna die. I'm really mad No, it's just a giant cricket man. Oh, it's like a man coming to you.

Oh, you're right. It was the dog. Did not like that. No Did I like it?

No, it was not a fan. I Was very poltergeisty because it was just like yes unimaginable craziness for this young lad the crookin man is this like spooky looking version of the Thing in his zoetrope. Oh actually before this even you get a close above the zoetrope like it goes off And everybody's looking at it and also the crookin man disappears from the right from the toy. It's like where he go The first time I saw this I thought the crookin man was CGI because the way he moves.

Yeah, not really No, it's not bill Jones. Okay. I'm sure yeah He's the other one he doesn't think like this. I hope they hang out.

I hope they have matching jackets. It's all boys This guy's name is Javier Botet. Yes, he has Marfan syndrome. It's all people think a rain Lincoln head Right, it's like you're really tall.

You're you're um did just a very long so he has very long fingers and very tall and he can move his body in a lot of ways I'm the actor. You the baby seriously. That's a combination. He's great.

Here's mama and that movie mama. Oh, fun Oh, honey, he doesn't even know gender, baby. He's been fine But he plays the cook man. Okay, that's also and I feel like I've got a lot of Full body shots of him.

No, I it happens so fast and when I guys what it really was I was just like Oh, okay, that's kind of weird and then like yeah, and they added it to be very herky jerky I wish they had kept it a little more natural. Mm-hmm. Yeah, how do they get rid of it? Like how did that moment get resolved?

They see all the back into the room and he's like the crocheting man and you hear the crocheting man saying his little spookiness around Right, it's hard on. Or by and he's you see a shadow approaching but then when He enters it's just Janet talking as the crocheting man. Oh, right, right? Oh, right because you see the shadow of it and then it's just her right and they're like, well, that's not cool I don't like any of that.

So this is when the warrens come. Okay, and also is this how we met? We met Maurice Rose is there and yes, and he's the one who's conducting the interviews Yes, he's a real person. Yes, he's a real person real inventor, which I was like interesting was he perhaps unconsciously subconsciously I should say The inspiration for crazy old Maurice.

Oh fuck. I don't know. I'm afraid of them thinking Oh, yeah, the warrena's this nice conversation with Janet on the swings where she's like listen Oh, yeah, I'm weird too. So until I finally went after you know years of searching I found somebody who would believe me and you know what I did to him.

What'd you do? Oh my god, oh my god. Oh my god. That's gonna be the emery of bitch Oh my god.

Yeah, which I as a human 2018 maybe and like all the terrible things that have that go on on our streets on It's cool to hear a conversation where it's like I believe you and like yes, you need to find people who believe you like just I know That was it the fully deep moment. No, but to me that's how I wanted to be about has a lot more It presents the skeptic nonbeliever side of the story a lot more there's a lady who eventually comes apart the investigation job I think is just to say I believe in ghosts. Yeah, she's like the hoax bullshit I'm a liar. There's a lot of and even the Warren's like this looks like she's jumping over that in this photo Yeah, which is yeah, it's real yeah, this movie you know features so much perspective of the skeptic's that even use the audience They're like, oh, maybe there's something to it, but I mean like they eventually keep believing the victim So it's like a quiet movie about like believe victims will see to their stories.

Yeah, absolutely So the Warren's come and they have this really cool session Warren's arrive. It's a really cool section where um They want to prove that uh Janet isn't baking it. She's just doing a voice right so they're like Mm-hmm. What are you putting this water in your mouth and we're gonna talk to Bill so that we know you're not doing it with your mouth Right and so they try it and nothing happens and she goes Maybe feel like he says he wants he doesn't like you all looking at him And another moment of like skeptic doubt list like being allowed to have a moment Morris I think Maurice crazy old Maurice he even says that's weird They've been have a problem talking to Bill before when the cameras were pointed on him But they tried anyway they turn around and so the camera states with Patrick Wilson in the left side of framing focus looking Into the case towards the camera's very out of focus is Janet in the back of the chair It starts to go to black to the point.

Yes, here. Well, you see here. We don't see your features Yeah, like an outline. Yeah.

Oh and also because they were like I don't have to say this moment They were like well, they'll look into the dude who died here and they're like, yeah, that's a public knowledge. Yeah Hot gas some word on the street and start talking to bill really um hey Now this time we finally hear Bill's voice from Janet and slowly so slowly but so suddenly that couldn't tell when it happened completely She starts to morph into bill in the background. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's really so well. It's cool. It's really really good effect Because it starts with her in light and they like the lights eventually go down So we track her all the way through this whole thing with her eyes.

Yeah, obviously some CDI work But so well done and so scary and eventually she's Bill right back on then um I Think you just like talking to me. Yeah, they all went through done They look back at her and she's looking around and she spits the water out and puts it down It's like well did she Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need every one of like did you well? Yeah, she cut out, you know, we were all looking away because she have stepped it, you know I've talked that I don't know why I said like that Alright, so um the warren's gonna be for bed. Um, he's like do you feel anything this house?

I really don't I don't sense anything going on right now, but you know, we'll see Which is part of it we later find out the spirit wants to be like Here's another just little instance of the warren's like the movie show like the warren's fuck they fuck They're sleeping some beds because they're staying at some house. Oh, right? Oh, and he goes, I think I can sleep this far away from you And she goes well, you're gonna have to and he'll give you something to look forward to when we get home cute in this place Oh, it's like cute because not even like a little fuck really couple. I still like a partner thing Like I don't know.

Yeah, I like like you know, like I like this week next to each other cute so they're he's bringing her in that room from afar and Cool and she's very very manic. I'm in the room. So I wake up upside down on the living room There's a balance ceiling and she sees bill in the chair and bill walks upstairs lily. She's still trapped to The ceiling yeah bill reaches down through the ceiling and yanks on the jump rope and pulls her out through the ceiling Oh, okay into the into what is what was her old bedroom that they've since locked up and covered in crosses Yeah, and all the furniture there's bashed up.

It's like a fucking mess But the room is locked in the outside. It's chain and padlock so I know we can get in yeah But like somehow The floor slowly the there's a ton of cross on the wall that the neighbors gave them the crosses all slowly start to turn upside down Mm-hmm. Well, it's really interesting as they all move at the same speed at the same direction But it's like a wave like you do out of sports match It's all process running on the same which the organization is very creepy. Yeah, and then build yours Yeah, and he's like hey, can you just get there here and see bill in the room the mom?

It's a real person which I like the director lysie's real people on it same as this movie is good up So they eventually get into the room Janice not a good time. She's caught in curtains Janet I'm not wearing Janet. It's to dress the damn curtain. Come on.

Yeah, like I'm a good face Like joking around on all sorts of getting her next is where we have the scene where the ladies like she got That's over in a pub. Oh, sorry when they come in and find her with a curtain on her face Lorraine notices Oh across the go back normal. I'm going to notice that one is like whoops. Yeah, so I think that's what she's like Mr.

Q Mr. Q, but this is I think when she's like we earlier she even said she's like we should be going on more cases Like I don't want you to get stabbed by a tree if that's cool if you add and he's like meh I think this is when she's like Yeah, hold on They go to the pub with some people who've been involved in investigations so far, okay And somebody this lady I forgot her name But she's like a skeptic and she's like they'll did die in that share, but that's public record Which is weird that's public record that he would die It could have been in the bench where maybe maybe but he died He died like he lived hitting in a fucking chair iconic And also these were the show photos of them like levitating on the bed right and adds even like her knees are like bench though Like what's that she's jumping? Oh wait, sorry to start it probably not like also meaning a neighbor could have talked about it Like you know, I thought you know I thought you know I thought you talked about it She broke into the government office It's all the fact that I got to me or like on the news or something So that's smart, but yeah, it was for levitating like it also really just looks like she jumped off the bed Which is what it looks like in real life So we go out to the house the Warrens are there at the daytime And this is where Ed's like you got guitar over there the corner Oh, right because that they talk a little bit about the dad taking the Elvis records, right? So you play some little dad dad you play them a little can of fun with you I'll let that baby right it sucks in person.

I was but then eventually just Patrick Wilson being like oh yeah I've been a broad way I can sing mother fucker. Yeah, also very I'm looking at you girl It's very cute. It is but like I just didn't realize this would be a little weird I thought the same thing at the beginning when I saw first time but I was like I like I just started out people you know finding the one person Like people there's like somebody out there for everybody Yeah, like they both you know have like those these stuff going on. Yeah, and so I'm like, you know I would love to hear from her.

I think it would and I probably would say that's when it actually happened I feel like it would be a really cool series if it was like branching off that idea of like this like power couple That's like I thought I was like I thought I'd be sure yeah, like I don't know. It's really supportive of them. Yeah, but yeah They're like their like adventures like just dealing with crazy demonic shit or not, you know Call me about shit. I think I'd be a cool guy.

Okay, but like I don't want my horror movie I'm not just so the next thing that happens is Patrick Wilson goes down to the laundry to fix the laundry with the mom And he's like oh you're probably over there in that fucking pond. You have your goddamn basement. Oh, hey Why do I fucking pond in your basement? Why is it?

Swamp is this not normal? Oh, you like this in the States? No, no, it's me if you want to pull you gotta Yeah, this is a count. You need gotta be done a little differently in ground, but it's not good.

Um, well, correct This is in ground out there you are preferred wrong, but it's wrong Um, you just wait for the fuck into the water and like fix this pipe and it's nice deep it's gross But who's behind it? Oh, you sure? Hey, oh, hey, oh, get out of me, baby. I'm a Munch of watch TV before okay, so Bill will compare behind Patrick Wilson, right?

I'm like, who's behind you. He turned around nothing's there weird. She looks down to the water and he's looking right at her This got me. Yeah, I didn't like it.

Um, don't like it any bitter. Oh, right because right because he bit one of the girls Yeah, we'll see her by him by her Like actually but I think it's like a but you see her struggling in the water and she comes up with uh the by mark on her hand And she's like oh my god. You see this and you're like, that's so weird. It's missing two teeth weird something drops in the water also after he bites her and Oh, I'm disgusting dentures.

That was actually so fucking stupid. I thought I was like, that's a dumbest fucking shit So he's a little like to hinge for them, but it's like he's a fucking ghost like the fuck that's what's gonna stick That's what's physical eyes. There's a fucking denture. Come on I already said like oh, there's a space where to their missing just like billhead.

We didn't doubt it We were like blind their hands I bet it's Lorraine You know like it was never know whatever doubted like that really back in the back. It was so that was That's right. The fucking said it was dumb. Yeah, here's the scene where uh the kitchen gets destroyed So we see is this when we see her looking at the kitchen going like oh my god.

Do you see that? Yes, that's right. I'm like starting to yes Do you see that in the kitchen? There's something in there but her acting that scene is so great I thought yeah because she is playing two things.

I want she has to be like she has to pretend to be the demon at the moment But then I still pretend to not she's a pretend to be pretending to be demon she because in the reality of this moment Non-real life and the reality of this film Janet has been told by a demon. Hey act tell them Do this act like me. Yeah, or else. I'm gonna kill your family Yeah, yeah, and like you that was really cool I just like because she looked like freak the fuck out like that mean like just that cut is really cool for just looking And you see down into the dark kitchen which I can totally fucking agree with that feeling and just being like don't you see it?

They're like what no, and like she looks so freaked out and I just ah that was really cool It's very good basically. I'm saying there with a knife and then she destroys the kitchen But we only hear it. Yeah, and then we see the after fix the um the like destroyed kitchen afterwards When does she actually go and destroy it? I don't remember when you see it or you're just saying and that's what happened?

Yeah, but the problem with this is that um the skeptic room before is like she's faking it and I can prove it and we see footage She has receipts. Uh literally uh you see footage of the kitchen shot from outside and you see Janet very um deliberately destroying the kitchen She doesn't look she's overcome by anything right she just like freakin out Yeah, so they're like I guess we could pack it up that kind of proves it like the church will never believe us now Exactly, but then Lorraine is like I mean it is interesting that this happens It just so happens to happen to one room because a camera rolling exactly right? It's just curious. It's curious.

You may be smart demon But not smart enough right but the idea as one later is that the demon um was making Janet Make it look like it's fake right so that people go right because once they all leave and they're like Janet And then all the sudden's like why did you do it Janet? And she's like because it told me it killed me. Yeah, and they're like oh, okay So the Warren's gonna train She takes a little nappy poo Well, she takes a little nappy poo Lorraine Because she has a vision but she wakes up. Oh, oh, oh, I was like um Well first though, uh There's there's some tapes that fall out of ed bag.

Oh take like reels not takes but like audio reels Oh, this I did not get um I got you so they make the shape of an X like they're crossing each other's right They're like crossing each other and it's like there's a connection there between them Um two times in the movie um Janet as bill has been presented with crucifix and she started Um bill it through Janet started reacting really like scared of the crucifix Oh great the first time is when Bill's walking on the chair right and he has a neck yes And the second time is when she's like she ends up squishing her closet after the kitchen destruction Which is very weird very cool though. Yeah, it was very practical. It was like they're actually like some guns hands Yeah, but he'll see you so it takes the two of those two incidents Um and like a DJ. Yeah, it literally is like a mashup Because in each of the times that he was presented with the crucifix bill was saying sentences that have seemed to be like missing words Yeah, so they play them together and they form one sentence and the sentence is help me.

You have one. Let me go So clearly bill is like not in control situation. So if it's like it's like it's like uh it's like the first It just it's just like well, that's convenient. Yeah, it was just like it was like fun to watch it's really Detectivity, you know Um, I didn't laugh like there's listening to this out loud on the train.

I was like what if you walk past some people listen to like rent I'm like, oh, I was scared Scared intrigued. I would say yeah, like Tom. I'm so horrifying But also sit down and like put your butt on my ear. This is where the ring is a vision of bill Yeah, it's like a different version of he's like dying.

He's attached like an auction tank in that chair And he's like very sincere. He's like a family in the right here. Yeah, and he's like not mad He's just yeah, he's just like I don't know. I don't understand what I'm on and like why can't know that she asked him why he came On or what?

Yes, he's like he wants to leave but he can and then he says some sort of riddle about like it's given to you without asking It's a bird. It's this riddle. Um Again like wow just and then it was a we seem the chair and then we realized what's behind him behind him He's like oh, this is mine gotcha that she's my surprise Uh lorraine says uh it's a spirit. It's a demonic spirit that has taken a blast from this blast from this form to attack my faith And I haven't seen it on yet.

You have I feel like this makes the prequel tricky because If it was specifically tailored to like lorraine's faith it seems to imply that this isn't always An entity that appears as a nun but the movie the nun takes place like 20 years before this. Yeah, it's It seems like it's a little bit written. I have to pretend that line was not in between north You gotta you know they they really try to make an expense in the moment But this this connection doesn't carry out got it. That's right.

Well, I guess yeah We can put it on this but this could be construed you could really again if you really look at all these movies you could really Make it work. So now the wars are gone. The spirit is like party time at the enfield house He's grabbing kids from in the air. He's dragging it by their hair.

That was a party. That was a no-saker Oh, and we find out the reason that Lorraine's like when she was like, I don't see anything in this house Because her sight was being blocked by an evil spirit. Well, I think I think the idea is supposed to be that like the nun not only was You know she fucking should have but she was in I guess somehow blocking somehow blocking Lorraine's abilities to see past the nun Yeah, like she passed bill to the nun. Yeah, she can only see bill until this moment Yeah, and that is kind of again if you've watched enough ghost adventures like or you know paranormal shows Like that is a potential thing that demonic forces can do is like hey, I'm just the voice of a little girl.

Don't mind me I'll be with you. Yeah, exactly. It's the same idea. Yeah, it's the it's the uh the trickery because they can't maybe just think directly They have to they've it works for somebody.

They can't be like, hi. I'm an evil spirit. Can I fuck up your house? Like, you know, that's not what I do Yeah, like I need your permission first like it's a cool thing.

I mean, yeah, so it has to kind of You know, little stress so Lorraine figures out the riddle that the left her and she figured out the answer is guacamole. It's the name. It's the name. I'm a cottos You're out of the convert.

The name is guacamole Aww The answer is your name. They have to if they say the demon's name they have control over it Call that bitch out and ed goes, but we don't have his name and Lorraine goes, but maybe we do it's Okay, he doesn't know that. Don't scream. Um, yeah, so Ed I'll put it inside the house um for the basement and get stuck in there.

He actually breaks out through the floorboards Oh, they have that big moment. I can't let him do it. I am I visioned. Did you and he's like, well bitch if I have to die like I thought he fuckers out Which is heaven legit.

Yeah, um, he's like it's called I already had my ticket name Good big cakes. Um, so he burst off through the floorboards like Frankenstein Um Um And he gets like steam in the face like hot steam. Oh, right? Random hot steam valve that's just hanging out in the hallway.

Um, and it kind of doesn't blind him, but it makes his vision. Um, Really blurry. Yeah, especially when I'm in sequence. We spend a lot of time in his perspective his POV and Spooky and very spooky and no peripheral vision.

Uh, everything's very blurry. Um, I'm going to see the crookie man behind him. It's Sorry, sorry. Yeah.

I think it was fine. I was like, just get excited. The TV with children's fire goes on again. It's very scary.

Yeah, they're all British. Very scary. Here's okay. So Lorraine has her big Oscar moment here.

She's in the rain and she's like, she's a little model. I asked you your name. You told me your name And I wrote it down. I need my bible Oh my god.

You're right. That was a really super good that happened. Um, but she goes to her bible and she reads the name that she carded in it last time she had the vision and it's bollack. That's what she Fucked up her bible.

Yeah, it's not also bad. I couldn't think that her demons hate bible. So yeah, I As soon as she says her the name of the demon there's a giant lightning strike on a tree in the front yard. What do we see?

Uh, oh, it's a Stop sticking up. That's actually a ball on. What does it look like? This is not that went through Patrick Wilson's body.

In the vision that she had. Um, and he's gone up to So we can call it right because he's in the house. She's near the basement still with the valack. Uh, she had the monologue in the backyard and then she goes to the front yard to get her Blimey the car.

Oh, we see the crookie man again. The crook man's in the tent. Patrick Wilson looks in there. He's like hi.

Oh, right. It's just the face. Chases him into Jance's room, right? She's hanging by the window.

Right. She's smashed her window with her cameras and then she literally just hops out the window and grabs her. Right. It's a hop.

It's very cute. And he's hanging by the Uh, by the curtains. Which is always good. Not good.

Uh, Lorraine is She's okay somehow. I don't know. She's okay. I think cuz she's My memory's right.

It's one of those classic cases where it's like he's hanging. The things are pulling. Volak is still there. I think and then Lorraine comes up into the room.

Volak is there being like I'm a nun. Yeah, I'm just chilling like crossing bitch. I dare you. I'm the best day and Lorraine goes call you out motherfucker.

Your name is Volak and then I think I forgot the none does basically. Well, she says your name is Volak the defowler the profane. Oh, right. The marquee of snakes.

Yeah, cool. It's fun. Wait, the marquee of snakes. Okay.

Interesting. There's really limited but still I remember talking about it. I think about it. I missed it.

There's a couple snake images in the nun. Ooh, okay. I can't believe I'm not. I'm not either.

I was like what the fuck is with these snakes? Yeah. What the fuck is with these snakes? Yeah.

Yeah. Me screaming. But anyway, she gets the fans about the hell. Bye.

Can you do a memorable back? See you later alligator. I like that this is a good representation of female presenting demons. Is he so many like dude looking demons?

And she was having none of it. So she somehow got the back. She was back to hell and of course with the time that Olak was back to hell Lorraine makes it just in time to hoist Patrick Wilson out by his strong arms. They come outside.

Sorry. I mean, they're not. Those are strong daddy arms. He can like build you a fire but also like be like, oh, you're I don't know.

I'm not talking about that. Clearly you know that. I'm not going to do this. I don't know.

Okay. So basically Janet saves to the Valakan hell. Good on. There is like a little bit of texty like epilogue basically saying like they lived out the rest of their days there.

The mom died in 2003 and it says in the same chair where the little guy. I hated that. Don't like that. Is that real?

I have no idea. I don't like it. But if you reel or not the movie presenting it like that implies that like now that our parcel is in trouble. I don't know.

Unless it's like some benevolent like Bill is nice now and he wanted to like, you know, the death check. I just only gave him the real person is possibly like in hell because like it was very mysterious and very like isn't a spooky in the same chair. I don't want to answer that. Yeah.

That's legit. I don't know about that. So we see Ed put the crooked man toy like next to the like mirror toy from the first week. Yeah.

And the little demon room. And then I had the dance to us on. And then they're like fuck. They absolutely fuck.

I would. Real conjuring. Not other means. Even conjuring the baby.

God. You know, they're like, you know, I know, I know. Anyway, I thought about the, yeah, yeah, because they play over the end credits according to the movie, the actual recording of Janet speaking out of Bill. Yeah, which is definitely like a movie on the ears.

Yeah. And there is like video footage that you can look up and it's like you see her just talking and like her mouth doesn't move much. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

And they're like, and again, everything is nothing's sure. I wasn't there. I'm going off with the limited information. I'm reading.

But apparently they were like, right, like she could have been doing some French reliquest like tricks to make this noise come out of her without her mouth moving. However, they were, they claim that they claim that she would be talking like this with three hours, which no one can hold that. And that voice in that placement in a girl that young like even I can't really talk in that voice. No, I can't.

I just in a show. I had it as one character. I had to recently drop my voice down as low as possible. And it's I did show was later.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I pretend to be straight, but I played a character whose voice had to be as low as possible.

And I couldn't get any lower than I could get this girl gets lower than I do. And she's a little bit. Oh, she has low, baby. So I guess.

So I have the recording here. I'm going to play a little bit of the actual recording of Jana as Bill. So that's the part where you hear him say I'm 72 years old. Like he doesn't the movie that voice is deep for 11 year old girl.

And so gravelly and it's scary regardless, whatever it is, I don't like it. It's still powerful. So she was doing a fake voice. They're part of like gravel her voice like that.

I only should have the breath support as an 11 year old girl to make it projected the way it is. And then she's like, oh, yeah. She's like, she's just slashing on like their little like love seat there in the interview. Like it's not like she's like sitting up straight, good posture, good press support standing.

Like it's she, I mean, it would have been very impressive. And like even if it was truly a voice, she was concocting like it's still unsettling and like, you know, all that being said, almost everything else about this haunting is completely debunked. Yeah, everything are like, I mean, the only thing I haven't really because everything else is like just based off of the families. Yes.

I mean, it's accounts, but also I'm just curious because there were the two of the one cop who's like, we did see a chair move. All that. I mean, the things that we have actual evidence of, I just like have some examples are we're all pretty much debunked. Not only by people like outside of that.

Like God by God by Jesus, but also by the family itself. Oh, okay. I didn't get this far. Please go.

Go, go, go, go. So the Warrens did come in and believe that there was a demonic presence, but they couldn't find information about what they did at the house. And two years later, the hauntings abruptly stopped. Even though the family said they did nothing.

Interesting. Okay. The girls later admitted that they pranked the reporters for some parts of it, but some parts of the haunting were real. And at one point, they did film Janet destroying things secretly just like a movie in real life.

She was bending spoons to leave around the house. And they even she did that in the movie when she was during the kitchen. She was just like, exactly. He's like, he's a little reference to that.

Yeah. Only real fans will know. Exactly. Only kind of kids.

And the jumping photo, the photo of them levitating on their beds. It's like they're jumping. And the real one we're talking about. We'll post it on.

But they show both in the movie. The original and the recreation. Yeah, it is cool. I mean, the recreation is cool.

Like they obviously, you know, again, take care. The reporters also noted that most of the like poltergeist acts were only happening when people weren't watching, which is again, referencing scene where they have to turn around from Janet to get the build to come out. But the recording that I just played, I can't unless it's been manipulated or she's very talented. It's hard to hear that and go, oh yeah, well, I believe that I'll load real things.

I don't really know. It's really a good thing. And you know, we weren't fucking there. So now I'm out.

Oh my god. I'm not even going to London in the 70s. I think it's all those like closer than that. Yeah.

So that was like, conjuring to... Dose! Fun. Yeah.

I mean, I think now that I've seen them and I know which extraction from them, I can have more fun. Watching them, I think I went in expecting to have a certain vibe to it because the way that they were really, you know, promoted and just the vibe I was getting from like trailers and stuff like that is like, oh god, this is really spooky and like spooky. And like I know people get really freaked out by it and I think I really had it built up in my head. I was going to like rip my shit up and really it was just like a fun go-swooke.

This one I think the highs are higher. Like the none scene is incredible. Oh yeah. Yeah.

This one was just starting to build looks amazing. But like, I think the finale this one's a little better. It's definitely more earned. Yeah.

I think with like the demon stuff that you'd be able to do it. Yeah. But like the first one's kind of a lackluster. I think it's a less lackluster.