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EPISODE · Dec 18, 2025 · 51 MIN

The Crypto Tape – Tokenization, Stablecoins, and Why Crypto Fundamentals Don't Matter (Yet) with Robert Leshner

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Robert Leshner, co- founder of Superstate and creator of Compound, joins Frank Chaparro to discuss why institutional interest in tokenization hasn't translated to token prices, how stablecoins changed everything, and where real-world assets are actually headed.In this conversation, Robert and Frank cover:Why 99% of crypto markets are driven by momentum and flows, not fundamentalsHow stablecoins reaching $100-200 billion created a tipping point for institutionsWhy we're heading toward 200+ multi-billion dollar stablecoins coexistingHow streaming yield by the second changes the game for crypto-native capitalWhy every major Wall Street institution now has teams focused on cryptoThis episode reveals a tension at the heart of crypto right now: institutional momentum is real, the infrastructure is being built, and none of it has translated into price action yet. Robert's explanation for why that is, and where it's headed, reframes how to think about value creation in this market.

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