Welcome to the Daily Whatever Show. Good morning, everyone. I'm Lawrence Winterman. I'm Danny DuBois, and I'm just feeling a lot more like myself today.
Yeah, me too. I felt really off yesterday. Yeah, a little bit strange. It was great talking to Karen.
I just don't remember everything that I said to her. It's a good thing we videocated the entire thing. It's a good thing we have a recorded archive, so we know. Because, yeah, I just felt so weird.
I mean, I can't quite explain it. But sorry to any of you who were here yesterday if we were kind of off. We're not sure what happened. But I totally feel like myself again today.
Yeah, very freaky Thursday experience. It was kind of freaky. Kira agrees. Is it time?
Time for a treat. It's time for a treat. Would you like this? Here you go.
Lawrence, if yesterday was freaky Thursday, you know what that makes today, don't you? Fucked up Friday. Fucked up Friday. This has just become like a touchpoint of my week.
Like a favorite thing to get to do. I love it. And, oh, good. The chat is up.
The live is up. I'm going to open the chat and say, hi, all. I'm here. Yeah, yesterday everything was like a haze.
It was very pretty. Like a lavender haze. Yeah. Kind of like a lavender haze.
Sort of just like a far-sighted haze where I couldn't see the thing. Oh, hey, Ogre. What's up, Ogre? Ogre, I think maybe you missed yesterday's, and it's one you may want to go back and look at.
I just feel like it might play to your interests a bit. It's not quite us showing up as puppets, as not puppets, but it's along those lines. Right. Everything you'd like, Ogre, you should just go listen and watch for a couple minutes, and I think you'll see what we mean.
I see that our very special guest has joined the chat, Samantha Page. I cannot wait to meet her. I've been seeing her name all around since I joined Substack, and it was one of those like, you should just join. Let's have this out.
And to have it on Fucked Up Friday, I'm pretty smooth about it. I think it's going to be great. Really excited that Samantha is able to join us today. And, I mean, without any further ado, shall I?
Yeah, let's bring her on. All right, Samantha, I'm about to send you the invite now, assuming that Substack knows who I'm trying to. Good morning, One Minute Daily Boost. And everyone, everybody joining us.
Robin said you absolutely have to check out yesterday's Ogre. Yeah, of all folks, I feel like Ogre would appreciate what happened here yesterday. You know what else happened this week, Lawrence, while we're waiting for Samantha to join? I had lunch with the Momster, and I got to meet Baby Grace in person.
And she's so cute and so just curious and active. And I still got it. I put her on my hip, and we wandered around, and I think we're best friends now. So, you're going to get to meet her, too.
She's coming on in September. Oh, that's amazing. With her mom. Yeah.
Samantha, hello. How is everyone? Excellent. How are you?
Thank you for joining us. Oh, it's my pleasure. Thank you for inviting me. I really appreciate this.
This is really, really, very kind. I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. And I did watch yesterday, and I can see that you were both looking and feeling a little bit better. I can see that you were a little more like myself.
Yes, yes. Right? Yeah. Right.
The skin looks fabulous. Something's a little different. I can't quite place what, but yeah, I'm just feeling much better. Look at all the hearts flying in.
It looks like you've got like a purple light behind you. I love it. Yeah. And looking at it now, I see that I kind of overdid the background, didn't I?
No, no. Fabulous. Are you kidding? We're all about the purple background.
Yeah. I love it. Samantha, would you like to introduce yourself to the folks in the chat? Gee, I don't really know how I would introduce myself.
My name is Samantha Page. I guess I write-ish, but I do mostly memes and notes. And then my goal is to sort of introduce people to trans people so that they are likely to fall for some of that right-wing propaganda and may vote more consistently with hopefully their own interests as opposed to out of fear, if that's a good summary. So I guess I would kind of consider myself an activist, but I'm more of just a person like you're showing up as yourself and people get to learn by experiencing you as you.
Yeah, I think that's fabulous. Well, that's very generous to you. I appreciate it. I'm going to take it.
I appreciate it. Well, Samantha, we've had this land for a while, but of course there was news this week that is very relevant to the trans community and to society writ large. Would you be okay if we spent a little bit of time at the beginning kind of talking about the news out of Minneapolis and just kind of how that's impacting folks in the trans community? Yeah, no, I appreciate that.
That would be great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't speak for the trans community in general when I'm honest, but my experience and what I'm seeing, we're pearls today, so I'm taking this seriously.
So that's 7-8. You know, before we jump right in, I just want to say, you caveat what you're doing with like, I'm just doing this on Substack, and I want to say that it's really important what you're doing on Substack, and it's made me think of a conversation I had recently with my family, with my mom and my brother who are, you know, not racist or transphobic, but also they don't know any trans people. And when my youngest went through her kind of gender exploration a few years ago, they were like, my mom's thing is like, that's just a Seattle thing. You're just very liberal and you live in this very, you know, sort of blue bubble over there, which it is a blue bubble.
I chose it by design. But I'm also like, this is really common, mom. This isn't something, she's like, my friend's kids are, they're not dealing with this with their kids. And it's so, it kind of amazes me that I don't, I'm like, how do you not know any trans people?
I recognize my experience is different living here in Seattle and being on Substack. I know at least virtually a lot of trans people sort of just as a normal part of day, day's passing. So what you're doing is actually really important because I, but I didn't know any trans people until I was in my 30s. And so what may seem like just a small thing you're doing, sharing memes, posting notes, like if that's the one exposure that people are having to other, to meeting a trans person and being like, oh, I like Samantha.
I feel like I know her. And also she's trans. Wow. That's just a normal way to be.
What you're doing is huge. Wow. Thank you. I wish my family would join Substack and just be like, oh, okay, this is kind of normal.
Yeah. I'm not a pleasure in a bit, but thank you so much. I appreciate it. Yeah.
I'm just, I'm just trying to be me and I'm glad that people will read my memes or my posts. And I'm, you know, I originally started my Substack with this idea when I saw these political ads that were sort of casting aspirations against people like us needed to say something. And so I joined Substack. It's really sort of my first venture into social media.
I wasn't on Twitter or any of those things. And the community has just been extremely generous and very kind, available for questions, you know, lots of support. It's just a wonderful, wonderful community. I lucked into Substack, to be honest with you guys, placed it sort of post.
It's the same way. We feel very lucky to have a community here that we have. It feels fragile and I hope it lasts because it was like, what if some tech giant is a monster thing and it all goes away? But for right now, Substack does feel like kind of a, utopia is too strong, but the social media place of kindness and learning, at least for me.
I agree. I agree. And towards that, Lawrence, I'm an open book, to be honest with you. And people seem to express in the comments to some of my posts that they have questions that they would like to voice those questions or they're worried about hurting someone's feelings or saying something wrong.
And honestly, I'm an open book and I understand that some of the questions may be difficult to phrase and I'm not going to judge the person for their questions. That's lovely. Yeah. You know, I think the biggest thing is, I think we on the left, right?
You know, I'm a gay man. Like you said, you're not, you know, the trans community is a modelist, the gay community is a modelist, queer community is a modelist. But I've noticed that on the left, you know, the gender identity of the shooter in Minneapolis, you know, kind of broke in the news. And I think people stumbled maybe over how to kind of address the facts.
And Rich in the chat, Rich Kagan actually made a really important point that, you know, 99% of the time it's a white straight guy who shoots out of a church or school or something and it crickets about how, you know, you know, the identity of a shooter. And then it's a trans person and suddenly it's a crisis. And, you know, and RFK Jr. is talking about investigating whether or not hormone therapy is in some way responsible.
And, you know, of course, you're just an individual, you're not speaking for the entire trans community. But I'm wondering what you've heard maybe from your trans siblings or, you know, how the news hit you personally. So unfortunately, the right wing has a tendency to jump to conclusions about shooters being trans identified or non-binary. They generally tend to throw those tweets out really quickly.
And if used to that is, you know, sort of attempt to attach to an incident such as this. And when it turns out, and it's rare that it is actually a non-binary or trans person, I think the overall feeling within the community is one of, you know, fear, right? I mean, I don't want to be, you know, used hyperbole here, but it's sort of almost like this is the right shot moment, right? You know, where everyone's going to crack down.
And so the general fear in the community is, at least from what I can see, is probable. It's, you know, we're suddenly very, very on edge. And we were on edge. That's for good reason.
I pretty much feel like there's a tiger in there every day. Now that tiger just got really, really big and angry. And so it's a little bit more difficult to sort of deal with that. And it certainly blows what would be a normal conversation.
It adds more emotion. It adds more volatility. And these conversations are difficult to begin with and have, you know, some extremes on both sides. So when you throw in that emotional aspect, that loss, that fear and that desire to maybe lash out at someone who commits such a horrific act.
And unfortunately, our community feels like we're sort of the stand-in for the actual ability to lash out at the shooter. You know, I need to disregard all of that. You know, I've seen some videos and read some news reports that mention he had some rather extremist right-wing-leaning views. I've seen people try and spin those as no, they were extreme left views.
Those are the usual things you see around, unfortunately, around a public shooting like this sort of issue about how to maybe control the guns that are used, but more about trying to blame party affiliation, whose team was the shooter wrong. And it's always sort of devastating to the community when it's on your team. Yeah, yeah. I don't recall the situation.
I know that there was an incident years ago where, you know, the shooter at the time was a gay man. And, you know, as a gay man, I felt like, oh, fuck, no. Like, not, you know, you know that people are going to distort that and take it out of context and try to make it all about, you know, sexual identity or gender identity or whatever. But really, you know, several people, including opinionated over noting in comments, like, the person was just a fascist, you know, like, I was talking with some people about this yesterday.
And, you know, like, there can be trans people who are just assholes, right? There are gay people. There are gay men who are just fucking assholes, who have bad morals and, you know, bad ideas about the way the world should operate. There are plenty of straight people who are assholes.
Sometimes an asshole is just an asshole. And it's about them being an asshole, not anything else. Right. And I agree with you completely, Lawrence.
And I posted sort of something on that line, which is like, you know, morality is tied to one's sexuality is tied to one's, you know, biological sex, northern nationality. It's tied to their character and who they are and maybe what sort of factors exist in their lives. But it's dangerous to point or paint, you know, any group with these moral aspersions. Because it's just, it's not a biological or philosophical truth that way.
I wanted to read this comment from Soso from the chat. She said, oh my God, I almost cried when I saw that as if the trans community was not a target already. The bunch of cry faces. And I think, I think that's a Lawrence right after the shooting when I was like, wait, is it true?
And I Googled it and I was like, oh fuck. That was my first response was like, yes, this was a white nationalist asshole. But like, why a trans white nationalist asshole right now? This is the very last thing that needed to happen.
And I like this quote from Ogre again. I'll take their deep, deep concern over the shooter being trans when they talk about their penchant from style, highly in their intense love of Hitler and Republicans, right? They're very picky about who they show their concern over, for sure. I also have to say that Chris is weighing in with, I'm an esthetician and Samantha has flawless skin.
So I'll let the compliments come out as well. Achievement unlocked. Oh my goodness. Yeah, it really is quite flawless.
I'll have you back on to talk about skincare tips. I seriously need some guidance. Samantha, help me, please. It sucks because with the world falling apart as it is, we don't get to just talk about stuff like that.
And sometimes... Well, I was hoping to talk a bit about music at some point because I know that you have an interest in music and I am not talented. That's my talent is knowing that I have no talent. But music is the way I sort of internalize emotions as a child growing up and the way I process my emotions in the music.
I can't wait to hopefully visit 80s bands or 90s bands. So we like to, whenever we have a new guest, we like to close out the episode by asking. I'm giving it away. You're getting a head start.
We like to ask the ultimate Gen X song. So whether you're Gen X or not, we like to kind of ask. You're potentially too young to know many Gen X songs, but... Oh, I'm maybe older than you.
Not possible. Not with that skin. I was born in the 60s. Did you see the 60s?
You can plan ahead, but we're going to ask you at the end of the show what you think the ultimate Gen X song is. Yeah. And also, wow, we definitely need to talk skincare. We definitely need to talk skincare and music, for sure.
Yes, we're both making 70 babies, so... Oh, wow. Yeah. No, I'm just allowed around the 60s.
Okay. You're one of us. You're done. One of us.
One of us. One of us. I don't know if you know our backstory, but Lawrence and I have known each other since the fourth grade. So we're like best friends from a million years ago, which is why we can finish each other's sandwiches.
A few more comments from the chat before we dive in here. I'm seeing that Canada is taking LGBTQ plus asylum requests. Good to know. And Blue Green Dot is saying that two teenagers are trans and people of color, and they are scared.
I didn't know that. And yes, I can only imagine how worrisome that is as a parent and what they're going through. And I'm sorry, your family is going through that. It's like, you need to be quiet.
That's my dog. And that's something I should mention. We as trans people get a lot of vitriol, but trans people of color is far more dangerous for them to just exist. I have certain groups that allow me to go to the grocery store when I'm being where I live, who I'm in Washington, and that is who I am, right?
But there are people who most certainly in our community who face far greater dangerous just existing than I do. So it's certainly important to mention that. So I'm sorry for that. And actually, yeah, I'm 100%.
Yeah. Yeah. Washington State for the win. Yeah.
I don't know more, but it's one of my favorite cities on the planet. Yes, I do love it. You're not very far from Seattle. I think we're going to be road tripping to Portland soon to go look at some colleges maybe.
So we'll be passing. I'll call you. Well, today is Fuck Up Friday. We should probably shift to talking about our stories pretty soon.
Also, Lawrence, I just told Krista she should come on for a skincare episode. Oh, yeah, absolutely. As people who've watched for a while might know, I am obsessed with my eye bags and trying to get rid of them. So please, Krista, come on and help me.
I need some help with these eyes. um yeah Heidi this is a great comment too if you consider the whole shooter population and how few of them are trans like it is absurd and um we're talking about this in part because it's just happened but every week on Friday there does tend to be like one story that leads them all right but like we're not going to pick as our main story like well there was a shooting like and I do want to say for the record and on camera like fuck the guns fuck this reaping that happens at the start of every school year my kids start next week um it feels like um the lottery you know the Shirley Jackson short story of like oh which city is going to take the hit this year I mean and it happens over and over during school year like as a parent as a human I fucking hate it but this one um the quote from the I can't remember his name the mayor of Minneapolis about like do not send thank you do not send your thoughts and prayers they were literally praying when the attack happened like I'm not a religious person but that fucking gets me and I hate that this happened so uh we did have to just call that out as like with no like haha fucked up Friday tongue in cheek like that is fucked up that we're dealing with this again and our hearts go out to the families of everybody who's dealing with the fallout of this tragedy like fuck and um the fact that the trans community is being targeted by it by MAGA I will say like mainstream news not mentioning it as much as they could be and I'm grateful for that that they're not perping on it at least not that I've seen um I don't watch tv news but I've been like poking around at the major news networks like what's on your front page and it is focusing more on the tragedy so I will I will take a little credit that way um but yeah when you're looking at thousands of young white men shooting people and then I think there's been like two shootings by trans people like fuck you rfk for trying to make this a thing right I just yeah get to cut on this oh yeah please we uh we are not trying with the f-bombs or anything it's called after friday for a reason um I you know it's funny because I haven't really looked at you know I've looked at certain media coverage I actually watched uh 700 you know clubs coverage because I was interested in what their spiritual you know take on this would be and they mentioned the shooter was trans but again their focus was also on the tragedy uh their response of course as you can anticipate was more but um but at least they weren't sort of you know piling on they mentioned the fact that the shooter was trans but they moved on to the actual loss in the tragedy and I appreciated that and I'll be honest I watch it when I need to um but I found that to be an interesting you know fact that they were carrying the story that way that's interesting it is shall we shift into going into our fucked up friday news stories we told samantha how this works right so samantha each week we pick we each pick what we think is the most fucked up news story of the week and it's a little bit of a sales pitch because the the chat is going to vote uh after we've pitched on who has the most fucked up news story of the week um it's a game where everybody loses because the news is so fucked up so even the winner um but uh we we'd like to let our guests go first um so so you're up for what you think is the most fucked up news story of the week okay well I hope I understood the assignment oh she's pulling out her reading glasses so here we go serious let's do this pearls and reading glasses right pearls and reading glasses exactly this very like retro sexy librarian thing going on right I'm here for it I dig it I love it I actually have black friends I love yours I think yours are gorgeous yeah and I have a pair of black friends or frames that I will wear a tish on it gives that sort of vibe oh anyway um so I picked a new story from lgbtq nation uh as my source um but it's about cracker barrel because to be honest with you I wanted something somewhat light and what better 30 than the big prove of a cracker barrel um story deals with trump uh taking credit uh due to his business acumen for the which back of course um I imagine had we lived at a time when new coke was around and gone back to old coke he would probably take credit for that too um but this is sort of the story that starts with that idea so the white house declares trump's unmatched business acumen save cracker barrel uh which what acumen are we talking here first but uh it goes on to say that the white house um is raised up major conservative backlash your audio is coming in and out a little bit samantha is that happening for anyone else or just me yeah no i'm here too is your phone by chance set um on a stand or is it set on on top of like a laptop or something is it sounds like it's set on a laptop should i do this i can hold it does that make it better it actually does yeah um we have found those little cheap stands that you can put your phone on so it's off the ground um keeps that from happening just pro tip if you're gonna go live a bunch yeah i want something but it doesn't work so i'll try that i thank you i'm gonna do that next i tried to prepare for this as best i could but i obviously you're doing great i just wanted to make sure everybody could hear you because it was cutting out and i did but i went and found the link and i put it in the chat i'll do it again in case more folks have joined but this is the this is your reference story and i checked it's the same headline you said so i didn't realize i probably should have linked it to the chat myself i apologize no no no no we're gonna have you back so we're we're we're prepping you to uh you know be a frequent guest here on the daily whatever thank you to be doing more lives friend this is fantastic um i hope this new story can sort of passes the assignment that was asked but um so it says that trump himself got involved through a post-country social uh where he said the company should change his logo back to make cracker barrel a winner again um in capsules um with the announcement of the old logo's return the white house is now using its resources to gloat and claim that trump rescued the company um you're welcome america is the quote she continues this is from anne kelly on hex um though she's you know trump has saved cracker barrel promises made promises kept which i find that whenever he says that to just it's not like a religious dog whistle it feels like there's some like jesus the overtones there that i'm not getting right and you know the point of the author in this is what she called oh yes reagan um cheater uh is you know what was this promise originally honestly yeah promises made promises kept what promise you promise to fear companies away from bad logo redesigns who fucking cares probably has better things to do with their time to worry about this you know companies are doing with their logo but no what he does at 3 a.m is what he does at 3 a.m um but um so it just says that you know this is credited to his unmatched business acumen and yes it's uncanny ability to understand what the american people want um and and that to me is just i mean to jump in and take credit for first what it me sort of absurd thing to fight about in the first place but the idea that the lgbtq community is infiltrating you know this this what apparently is a manga institution of a restaurant um i've been there on road trips it's not my first choice um they could make a place on the planet i'm still not going to go there to be honest with you because it's just not the kind of food you want to put my body under right there um but if that's the acumen we have from the white house i just i can't wait to see what other successes are you know hopefully we have the weebox logo or nike swoosh that would be something right well we've seen in his his design sensibility in the uh in the gilding of the oval office and yeah that that makes okay yeah the people's house looking like that is sometimes very difficult for me to handle it really is so tacky any design sense i think looks at that and just instantly wants to vomit you know uh tell me that you think you know a cheap caesar's casino uh president presidential suite is your design ideal that's disgusting it's it makes me so angry right that's like our tax dollars are being used for that to turn it the white house i mean an iconic you know location the photos of you know kennedy with bobby june you're playing and you know at his feet in the white house and those photos of just meetings of you know internationally important people and then into this sort of gilded gold emperor's palace it's just right it's gross and cracker barrel i think i've eaten it one once when i was in college back in florida we don't i don't think we have them in washington state at all we don't have them in the scale um but when i recently was in georgia with my daughter we we were on a four-hour road trip there and every single exit had a cracker barrel a golden corral and a waffle house and i was like two of the three of these you should never go to waffle house all day go to waffle house but um yeah cracker barrel is how did um ellie leonard describe it as um it's like school cafeteria food yeah yeah such a good description yeah it's the kind of place where a snake automatically would come with catch up on it very well done right like maybe yes um is it the peg game with the uh golf tees i think that's what they're called that's the thing that i've ever enjoyed from that entire restaurant i could buy those anywhere i don't have to get cracker barrel to get that so um but yeah definitely not yeah so excellent choice i'm thrilled to hear that our president's um immense resources and communications machine is being used to message about cracker barrel like the shittiest most like lowest common denominator american food you could hope to never have to eat in right awesome okay yeah big win big win yeah all right excellent choice lamanda thank you thank you want to go next or should i i can go next either way i feel like we've gotten in a pattern where you end it because and you hit it out of the ballpark so i can take second spot okay go for it i feel like y'all i have i have one that um i did not go for light um so mine is um about the minneapolis shootings a specific sliver of the minneapolis shooting the headline let me grab the link here the headline is minneapolis icu nurse was working when daughter arrived critically injured from school shooting that's the story um i've read a few stories about this i don't think this was the original one the original one i read was that this one this mom this nurse heard there had been a shooting rushed to the hospital where she worked so that she could help not knowing anything about the details and then her 12 year old daughter arrived critically injured and that's how she found out it was at her daughter's school and it was her daughter who was only injured like like it took all the wind out of me to be like according to the story the daughter is healing um let me find the thing here it says uh they're naming her which is surprising as a minor sophia forecast is recovering from wounds sustained in the annunciation church mass shooting that has shaken the minneapolis community her mom is a pediatric critical care nurse who was at work before knowing her daughter was shot and they have a go fund me um for support that will go to medical care trauma counseling and the countless unknowns that lie ahead so tale from an american mom who sounds like a superhero like pediatric critical care nurse like she did not come to play that is a hard chosen path in life and to have this kind of tragedy happen just uh that just makes me want to want to die oh here's another headline about she was shot in the neck and is recovering in the icu oh my god so that um yeah demon said it sounds like an episode of er or gray's anatomy it really it really does um so that to me is the most thing i can imagine as a parent so that is my very somber submission for fucked up friday you know i have two children and and i've always had that sort of wrenching fear whenever you know there's a school shooting or my kids could go to school and something like this could happen i'm even asking them about drills that they may be participating into i remember talking about drills i'm not for that but um for like you know nuclear blasts but um rules that they go through and the the reality is so much so far you know we have the threat of nuclear war but at the same time it's not the same as you know the fact that on the news the equivalent of that nuclear war is happening regularly for those kids it's highly terrifying but to be a parent and and have your child show up i don't i don't know that's right how do you go i mean i hope her super i don't know you know like i hope her supervisor was like good god go be with your daughter you know like don't don't care for her as a nurse care be with her as a mom right right and also we need all hands on deck right now like yeah i don't know i don't it doesn't right honestly i was trying to like triage that in my brain like what you know how do you yeah you need all hands on deck but also this woman's daughter just showed up as one of the victims like how you good god this is a um we are a nation like you were saying we don't remember shooter drills that wasn't because school shootings weren't really a thing till Columbine which was after like but we remembered as parents and so between us as parents not remember we're living the fear of his parents and then these now multiple generations of kids like we are a nation in collective like chronic ptsd from worrying about this right i mean among many other things we have ptsd about but like that's when was Columbine early 90s right yeah that's my right yeah Marilyn Manson was big then because they remember they were attacking yeah i know that one of the things that really got to me in the reporting 99 so late 90s okay i was gonna say 97 but um you know there were a lot of stories in the immediate aftermath of the minneapolis shooting about how the kids knew what to do right like they they knew to get under the pews they knew you know because they had experienced shooter drills for their entire school careers that um there were kids who were acting really heroically like like older kids putting their bodies on top of younger kids to protect them and that makes me want to die as a human hearing that there are children who know that their job is to protect the younger children uh you know i don't know how you can be a human and not have that just carve a piece of your heart out when you hear something like that crazy it is yeah so so in our chat is canadian and it's like take away the means take away the rest yeah heidi the only country in the world where citizens are able to do this unhindered yeah please please somebody on the right wing if lady once again how a comma in the amendment is more important than our children being able to safely go to school or to church or to a mall or a movie theater or anything like you know scalia was famous for the fact that he was an original intent original interpretist from that perspective and which at that time would apply to muskets and the ability to sort of protect yourself from possibly hostile government you just look at the world around you at that time they were potentially hostile governments um to then take that originalist idea and then interpret it to allow a large capacity ar-15 rifles just is is not rational to me that's there's there's it's a jump that doesn't make sense and so i understand the rationale for the reason for the amendment i mean we don't want a government that could freely just do what it's doing right now right uh and so the idea of having a weapon just in case is sort of like hey government slow down i can defend myself out of notion uh but when you're i don't know i just kids you gotta do something it's too easy to get something that could literally wipe out a room in seconds you know yes yeah you know and so nick and frederick and i are part you know we started this other publication called banner and backbone and i'm working on an article right now that i'm going to publish today or tomorrow about how the constitution is amendable right like it was literally built article 5 of the constitution tells us how to amend the constitution so that as our society evolves we can we can have the document that is the instructions of our country evolve with it and and all the founders wanted it to be amendable they literally talked about it in the Federalist Papers. Washington, in his farewell address, addressed that the Constitution should be amended. Jefferson thought every 19 years we should revisit the Constitution.
And the fact that we hold the Second Amendment above all others as the most sacred and unchangeable, when it is clearly a thing that is destroying our society, one of the things that is destroying our society, let's amend that motherfucker. We've literally done it before. We outlawed alcohol with the 18th and then said, oops, nope. We need our martinis back.
We can fix it. It's going to take a lot of fucking work, but we can fix it. There's a foundational document and it's supposed to be a living document, right? We're going to change.
Time marches on regardless. And if your foundational document that sets up your citizen's rights is frozen in the time in which it was created, when rights were only applicable to certain white, land-owning people, male, then the idea that that should be frozen in that perspective because the founding fathers wanted it to be a living document to be able to grow with the times that this nation wants to grow up. We welcome soapboxes here. We need to get a term.
Yeah, there's a whole side conversation going on here in the chat about all kinds of things, like the Second Amendment, get in control, and also we have Blue Green Dot is a gynecologist who wants to move to Canada. We're telling her to go see Dr. Hall on Substack. Blue Green Dot, she's just expatriated.
So you should go look her up and talk to her because she may have good information for you. And also talking about how Americans love their guns more than they love their kids. And you have to know that many of us, I would say more of us don't, but the NRA is powerful. I didn't mean to interrupt you, Lawrence.
No, no, no, go ahead. I was going to say the gun makers too, but yeah, go ahead. I was in the Army for five years, and they have training, marches training, and you get very intimate with your weapons you carry it around, especially in combat. But it's called a weapon for a reason in the military.
You don't refer to it as a gun. It's a weapon because the intent is there to save your life, but more importantly to take out the people we're trying to take over, you know, take your life. But to have it as a mental mindset of it, being a weapon, a tool that's intended for one purpose and that's to end life rather than just a gun. But I've been hunting.
I enjoyed it. I shot at a rabbit. I think I hit a branch nearby. But I just, you know, I can understand how people might enjoy spending time tracking a deer in the woods or an elk.
But you don't know if you need an AR-15 with 50 rounds for that experience, I think. But anyway, that's just me. I can't stop. I'm sorry.
I completely agree. My brother-in-law is a hunter. You know, he speaks really eloquently about kind of the joys of hunting. And, you know, if he bags the deer, he, you know, then takes it to a butcher and, you know, like actually eats the meat from the deer that he kills.
And, you know, he's a liberal. He was also in the Army. He did recently get an AR-15. And I went, I've never handled a gun in my life.
And I went and fired the AR-15 and hit three full-size. And it's like a dude who has never held a gun before in his entire life. Like it makes it so ridiculously simple to use. And yeah, weapons like that shouldn't exist.
You know, I mean, I guess that warfare exists and we need to be able to defend ourselves like exposed for that purpose. But like in the hands of a civilian, absolutely not. There's no reason that that kind of weapon should be in the hands of a civilian of any kind ever. It's just insane.
I totally agree with you that much. Yeah. All right. Yeah, we got to hear your story.
All right. Okay. Well, thank you, Dana, for that. That was a good contribution.
Yeah. So mine is kind of another twist on a thing story, right? So the frame of mine is yesterday or two days ago on the 27th. I think everyone knows about this at this point.
So Susan Menares, the CDC director, was removed from her position and it kind of created this firestorm. Quite a few other officials resigned. Demeter Dasgalakis, who's the head of immunization and respiratory diseases. Deborah Howery, the chief medical officer, Daniel Juergenen, director of emerging and zoonotic infectious diseases.
Jennifer Layden, who oversees public health data. So all these high-level executives resigned in protest. And then there was a walkout from the CDC, from a lot of line staff who were upset that all of these directors, you know, they're showing support for Susan Menares, the CDC director, who's ousted and the directors who felt like they needed to resign. But my twist on it, my Fuck Up Friday story is that out of this, out of this entire kerfuffle, while Dr.
Demeter Dasgalakis was being interviewed, talking about her letter, her very elegant letter, resigning in protest, he revealed that R.P. Jr. has never, never been briefed by any CDC expert about any major public health decision that he's announced in his entire tenure as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Never.
He didn't ask about the change of the vaccination schedule. He didn't ask about any of the decisions that he's made. He just made them. He just looked at the kids in the airport and knew they were autistic?
Yeah. Might have found real. Just decided that that was what we needed to do and told the CDC to do it, despite the opinions of experts and the data that, you know, they might have to the contrary. So, yeah.
So when Dr. Demeter Dasgalakis, when she resigned, she wrote in her letter basically that the entire agency has been run essentially on RSK's whim and has ignored actual real data. So not a shock, but also fucked up enough that, you know, in the Trump administration, I feel like everything is sort of like, oh, it's as bad as we actually thought it would be. Like, I kind of thought maybe they weren't actually making these decisions based on data, but it's worse.
Yeah. They're operating on a reality that doesn't probably exist or doesn't exist and they're operating as if it does and a lot of us are going to pay for it. A lot of people are going to suffer as a result of some of these sort of decisions based on a lack that they just don't believe the narrative of people who've dedicated their lives to science and dedicated their lives to protecting us and fighting these decisions. It's just a discount you don't believe.
It's all your left foot is yourself when you discount all the truth and the ability to believe in any of the truths outside around you. And I don't think his gut's that good to make those kind of calls by any means. I'm going to say, if you scooped up a dead bear carcass out of Central Park and thought maybe you were going to eat it, your common sense is not firing on all cylinders. Perhaps the brain worm, you know, ate a little piece of your brain that decides what's common sense and what isn't.
I wanted to use the story, but it's too old of him going swimming in the fecal matter water or the super water and having his kids in gramps or whatever. I wanted that to me. He's just like, he's a head of seat, you know, and he's sweating. Oh my God.
I keep quoting opinionated Ogre, but he's so funny. He said, eat a bag of moldy dicks, RFK. And then Robin weighed in and said, Ogre RFK Jr. prefers his moldy dick fermented in bison urine first.
So that's about how our medical, oh my God. So I saw it when it came to COVID vaccines. I'm wearing this on top of yours because obviously this was just RFK talking out his asshole. Like, hey, I didn't ask any scientists, but I can look and tell who needs a COVID vaccine.
He listed kind of pre-morbidities or comorbidities that qualified for COVID vaccine this year. And it was pretty much, a lot of them were common sense things. But did anyone look at that and be like, oh, he wants, like, he wants a list of people who have these comorbidities so he can start to be able to live shipping off or, oh, you're not, you're going to be expensive to society. I like, I know a lot of, I saw a lot of people being live on Facebook and on Substack around like, oh, lifelong depression qualifies you.
Or BMI over 30, yes, I qualify. And I'm like, do you want to rush in and like have a database of these are the folks who, you know, we're just doing this to see who qualifies for the vaccine, but really they're looking to see like, oh, are you self-identifying as lifelong chronic depression? That's something that we can treat by sending you to go Arbite McFry in the fields at the work camps. Like, maybe if I'm wearing the tinfoil hat too hard.
No. No. It's so much easier to solve the healthcare crisis when you like take half the people who are reliant on it and just sort of exclude them from the entire process. I'm sure that makes our health insurance go down, but it's just like, why would you go that direction?
It's crazy. And I'm not sure that that's the direction they intend to go, but it does seem starting with us. You know, marginalizing excluding us and then the next would be people with ADHD or people who are on SSRI. It's just somebody who'll save the money on the healthcare, sure, but there's going to be a lot of people wandering around.
Yeah. When did we suddenly decide to go back to the days where we like left our elderly out in the woods for a bear to eat, right? Or, you know, the kid with special needs gets born and you put them on the top of the rock for the eagles to carry away. Like, are we no people again?
Have we gone? It's easier, Lawrence. There's more meat on them to eat when you find the carcass in Central Park. Right, right.
I'm sorry, it's not even funny, but it's a little funny. And if we don't laugh, we're going to cry. Exactly, that's the purpose of Fucked Up Friday. Samantha, you're getting another compliment from the chat.
I know this is random, but you all commented on Samantha's beautiful skin. Me, I noticed the amazing smile. I hope that isn't too weirdly forward, but you have an amazing smile, Samantha. So we're just here to pump you up today.
Right, right. Yeah. All right, good job, Tash. She's definitely coming back.
I think it's time for the chat to vote. It's time for the chat to talk music. So this is how this works, everyone. We've got 94 folks in the chat today.
That's awesome. Just type one of our names if you want to vote for Samantha's story around the business acumen and the fact that our president has and that he's released his entire press corps to talk about it around Cracker Barrel. Put data in the chat if you want to talk about that poor pediatric nurse in Minneapolis who found out her daughter was critically wounded because she showed up in her hospital. Put Lawrence in there if you want to talk about the fact that RFK Jr.
is just randomly making shit up about the health care of all Americans. So here we go. We've got the names coming in here. We've got me, me.
Fermented Fluxpile is also a great mixer for cocktails. Oh, okay. We've got some good chats going on. Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence, Lawrence.
Lawrence, Lawrence. Okay. Lawrence, I think you're going to take this one. I'm seeing your name coming in and coming in while we're waiting for the results to come in.
I think this is recency bias. Can't stay in a story about... I'm Lawrence. I guess I won.
Where's my red wig? Oh, no. Cracker Barrel, you've got to vote here. All right.
Cracker Barrel gets a vote. Oh, my gosh. Not a vote, Lawrence. That mixer comment.
Yes. All right. Well, you know, again, Buck Up Party is the game that everybody wins. Everybody loses by winning.
Everyone loses. I don't know. Something like that. Congratulations, Lawrence.
Thank you. Thank you. I really am terrified heading into winter and, you know, golden flu season with, like, we're not going to know what's happening. You know, I'm going to sound like a crazy person here, but my paranoia around this had me a couple months ago go around to the local pharmacies and so I got my flu shot.
I got my COVID booster shot. I updated my Tdap and my measles and I went nuts. I didn't get the polio vaccine, though. I didn't manage to score that one.
I don't think they've given that one any tickets. No, polio is still available. The polio vaccine is still available. But in Fort Wayne, it was only available in one place and I didn't make it there.
But if you still can, go get all the vaccine updates that you can get, even if you've had them, because I think this is going to get worse. I honestly think this is going to get worse. We're on our own. I mean, it's just, all of the institutions that we rely on as Americans have been politicized under the guise of them being politicized before this got there to make it a reality again.
It's just, it's, a lot of people kind of suffer. Yeah. Joe was saying, I need to go get shingles. I assume you mean the vaccine, not the actual vaccine.
Absolutely go get the shingles vaccine. Fair warning, it's two doses and the second one will kick your fucking ass. But it's way better than actually having shingles. Yeah, I got shingles like a month after I turned 50, which I was like, fuck you guys, I haven't had a chance to get to the doctor yet.
And I didn't know what it was, but it was like on the belt, you know, like my right side, the line, and it was Liberty Weekend, Sunday night, and I was, I thought my liver was exploding. I was like, oh my God, I'm dying. I don't know what's happening, but I didn't want to go to ER. I wanted to be able to go to urgent care once, you know, the sun came up.
So I walked in and I'm like, I think my liver or my gallbladder is exploding. The nerve pain of it is so weirdly intense. So I caught it early, took the alcyclovir for a week, I was okay. But now it's been five years.
My doctor was like, you can wait because now you're immune for a while, you just had it. But Joe, if you were closer, I'd be like, let's go together. Shingles, I think 50 is when they recommend you get the vaccine. So that's why a month after my 50th birthday, I was like, ah.
It seems to present in intimate areas like you mentioned about. It seems to go more intimate. I can't imagine. It's not fun.
It wasn't great. So yeah, definitely get that vaccination if you haven't yet. researching for this. I went and found a picture of me standing with Robin Hitchcock, you know, going like this.
I'm a huge fan, so I'm jealous of myself. I've been him a few times because he plays smaller shows and he used to live in Seattle. I didn't know that. Okay.
Yeah. Have you heard the song Viva Sea-Tac off of Jules for Sophia? Yeah, it's all about Seattle. And Sea-Tac is, you know what Sea-Tac is, you live here, but Seattle, Tacoma, Tacoma is the city south of Seattle and the airport is in the city of Sea-Tac right in the middle.
And so the song Sea-Tac, he rhymes Sea-Tac with, they've got the best, these British, got the best computers and coffee and smack. So he rhymes Sea-Tac with smack about our heroin problem we had back in the day. It's a great song, Viva Sea-Tac, and I used to sing it with my kids, like we'd play it in the car and I would change the smack to snacks, have the best computer and coffee and snacks. Yes.
There's a song that says Highlight Colorado or something like that, which is a fun chorus, but with the kids, it was always, we changed that chorus to a different word. I can understand why it's smack to snack. That's certainly. It was an easy shift, but it sounds like you're a big fan of kind of the old wave.
Like you mentioned, The Cure, you recognize The Three Imaginary Girls is a Cure homage to their first album, Three Imaginary Boys. Very few people get the nod. So you should be, I'm very eager to hear what you think the most Gen X song of all time is. So my favorite band by far is The Clash.
Oh, excellent. But I would probably have to go with either White Wedding or Rebel Yell by Billy Idol. Oh, those are great picks. Awesome picks.
Those are great picks. And I would also say Rock Lee Casba. Oh, yeah. I mean, I know as a big Clash fan, you're probably like, oh, they're a pop song.
But Rock Lee Casba is a real Gen X like banger of a song. Yeah. And I want you to cut you off. No, no, please go ahead.
Oh, no. Where'd you go? Oh, no. There we go.
I should note that I've got to drop in like two minutes. So I've got another show after this with Susan Aiden called Dirty Talk. We're talking about chem sex today. And so sorry to kind of force it out of a wrap, but because I started this live, when I go, it's the whole thing's going to shut down.
But go ahead, Samantha. Oh, no, no. I'm just saying, you know, Billy Idol, of course, was in the band Gen X before. Yes.
Oh. And though my understanding of how our generation got its name is from the Stuart Copeland book. But still, he was from the band from Gen X. And it was a video.
It was very big. mtv video that's what we okay we've never had someone pick Billy Idol and he is so uniquely Gen X yeah for sure also by his resurgence that he's having this like amazing old age that he's like super hostile and a grandpa and he seems like he's having a great life touring still um samantha this was such a pleasure it's so great to meet you I hope you come back um we'd love to have you back on we'd love to have you here uh you know in chat any you're always welcome here on the daily whatever show um thank you to everyone who joined us and um I hope you have a great weekend we'll be back tomorrow with stephanie drury please do not miss it it'll be a little later in the day since it's saturday um noon eastern time 9 a.m pacific and uh we love you all thank you so much oh it's my pleasure thank you from north it was a pleasure to meet you thank you all right love you everybody meet it bye ma ma ma