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Jul 23, 2026 31 min

The Data Center Argument Doesn't Make Any Sense | Nathan Leamer

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Nathan Leamer joins MTS to discuss AI's impact on employment, the connection between data centers and reindustrialization, and emerging frameworks for national AI policy. -- https://x.com/NathanLeamerDC -- MTS is a live news and interview show covering technology, business, politics, and culture as it happens. Follow MTS: X | ⁠https://twitter.com/MTSlive⁠ YouTube | ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@mtsituation⁠ Spotify | ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4HUNNmV1pjV7CW6Lphm1rM⁠ Apple | ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mts/id1891088763⁠ Substack | ⁠https://mtslive.substack.com/⁠ Interested in sponsoring the show? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ -- Brought to you by: Neon (by Databricks) - Get up to $100K in credits for your startup at ⁠https://neon.com/mts⁠ ElevenLabs - AI that communicates at human level across every channel and modality. https://elevenlabs.io/mts⁠⁠ Kong - The AI connectivity platform. Connect APIs, LLMs, agents, and systems with serious security and governance. https://konghq.com Blitzy - Autonomous software development for enterprise codebases. Ship 5x faster. https://blitzy.com Merge - OpenAI, Dropbox, and Ramp use Merge to get AI to production faster. https://merge.dev/mts AdQuick - Make your brand a billboard. Out-of-home advertising as easy to scale as digital. https://adquick.com Macroscope - AI codebase understanding for engineering leaders. https://macroscope.com/mts -- Timestamps: (00:00) Introduction (02:00) Collapse of Job Loss Myth (06:33) Changing Status of Physical Work (08:58) Hardware Zones Need Data Centers (11:53) Open Source and AI Communism (17:10) Federal Land National Computing Hub (21:07) Local Opposition to Data Centers (27:56) Regulating Frontier AI Model Safety -- Note: This podcast is not investment, legal, or tax advice, and is intended for informational and entertainment purposes only. Hosts and guests may hold positions in the companies and securities discussed; do your own research before acting on anything you hear.

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