The Decision Churn

Episode four of Volume of Fire was recorded at Gunfighter headquarters in Flagstaff, Arizona, on a stormy day with tornado warnings. Ryan and Nishan start with tornadoes, elk and turkey hunting, and how it feels to watch your own kids get their first harvest. That leads to the big question: did our dads have it all figured out, and should we let our kids see our doubts? From there it's all decision-making and leadership: carving away everything that's not a canoe, why you learn more from bad leaders than good ones, whether leaders are born or made, getting promoted until you're bad at your job, the 20-year platoon sergeant, and Mustang officers. Nishan explains how he knows a discussion is over ("when it starts to churn"), Ryan confesses a "cheap leadership trick," and they debate owning your mistakes, Chris Voss and negotiation, and Starship Troopers. The back half gets personal: what success looks like for your kids at 30, happiness vs. the American version of success, Dave Chappelle and the expensive seats, grown men in jerseys, making your own history instead of memorizing other people's, and why information is worthless until you execute. Hosts: Ryan Cleckner and Nishan Campbell Recorded at Gunfighter headquarters in Flagstaff, Arizona. Chapters: 0:00 Tornado Warnings in Flagstaff 3:33 Elk, Turkeys and Watching Your Kids Hunt 5:33 Seeing Our Fathers Differently 6:19 Do We Show Our Kids Our Doubts? 7:59 Carve Away Everything That's Not a Canoe 10:56 You Learn More From Bad Leaders 12:03 Meeting Tom Hanks in Normandy 13:09 The EMT Lesson: Look at the Healthy Knee First 17:15 Are Leaders Born or Made? 19:43 Promoted Until You're Bad at Your Job 21:09 The 20-Year Platoon Sergeant 24:56 Stripes, Stars and Pay Within the Rank 26:50 Mustang Officers 31:20 When to Stop Taking Input: The Churn 32:53 Asking for Input, Then Going the Other Way 37:29 Ryan's Cheap Leadership Trick 39:31 Owning It When You're Wrong 42:18 Chris Voss: Negotiation vs. Leadership 45:59 Starship Troopers, the Person and the Position 50:02 What Does Success Look Like at 30? 54:12 Happiness vs. the American Version of Success 56:21 How Much Credit Do Our Fathers Get? 60:11 Did We Make It? The Park Bench Test 62:10 Dave Chappelle and the Expensive Seats 67:34 NFL Seats and Grown Men in Jerseys 69:48 Make History Instead of Memorizing It 75:40 Execution Is Everything 79:43 Homework for Next Episode Listen and subscribe: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/volume-of-fire/id6818653021 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0SvSvntG2GX1nikJ1VNkHk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@volumeoffirepod Website: https://volumeoffire.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/volumeoffire/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/volumeoffire