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EPISODE · Jun 25, 2026 · 36 MIN

The Decision Isn’t the Problem. It’s the Conversation That Comes Next.

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Most of us don't actually have a decision problem — we have an avoidance problem. There's one conversation, with one person, that we keep dodging, and it's the reason we're spinning our wheels.This week, Betsy sits down with Kasey D'Amato — a physician assistant turned founder who built and exited a company that went global, and now advises CEOs and executive teams on the big calls: pivots, partnerships, hiring, firing, exits.What you'll take away:The head, heart, gut test for making a decision when the data says one thing and your gut says another — and why two of the three have to align before you moveThe Polaris Point method: how to set a three-year goal and reverse-engineer it back to what you do in the next 90 daysThe two-minute rule for not making decisions out of angerWhy most of the "outside pressure" you're drowning in is actually within your controlThe single first move to make if you're feeling stuck right nowPlus what alone time taught Kasey about saying no.Kasey's free Decision Diagnosis tool is linked in the show notes.Chapters0:00 Why Big Decisions Feel So Hard2:32 The Head, Heart and Gut Framework5:38 Why Each Part Must Be Considered Separately7:03 Are You Solving the Wrong Problem?7:30 Finding Your Polaris Point9:13 The Hard Conversation You’re Avoiding11:03 How Emotional Intelligence Shapes Decisions12:02 Are You Feeling Heavy or Energized?13:28 Using Diplomatic Influence14:59 The Two-Minute Rule17:43 Outside Pressure vs. Internal Clarity20:33 Why High Achievers Take On Too Much21:49 What Four Months Alone in Morocco Revealed23:43 How to Create a 24-Hour Personal Reset25:07 Why Clarity Comes After the Discomfort27:28 Creating a Personal Polaris PointLinksKasey's websiteKasey's InstagramDecision Diagnosis

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