The Decisions That Build Leaders with Chris Michalak | #21

What happens when the career you thought was "up and to the right" suddenly isn't? In this episode, Jeff sits down with Chris Michalak, Executive Chairman of Personify and former CEO of multiple organizations, to unpack the real decisions behind a nonlinear leadership journey.  They dig into the moment many leaders avoid talking about: failure at the top. Chris walks through what it felt like to lose the job he spent decades working toward and how that experience reshaped the way he thinks about ownership, leadership, and risk. This is a conversation about unexpected paths, hard calls, and what it really means to lead when you don't control the outcome.   Connect with Chris and Personify: Website: personifyhealth.com LinkedIn: Personify Health Facebook: Personify Health Instagram: @personify_health