The Disingenuous Epidemic - Cowards, Clowns, and Characters

Mark introduces the topic of disingenuous people. Both guys have had recent experiences with people who were being disingenuous. Mark asks whether he thinks people are born this way or do become this way based on environment or circumstance. Jim says he's been using that word more often lately Mark reads the legal definition of the word Jim shares his definition. He clarifies the nuance of this activity being intentional Mark says there are different levels of it, but that some people are just stupid Jim shares his recent encounter with a disingenuous neighbor Deception from the get go. Jim says this guy isn't dumb…he's just a dick Mark shares something he used to tell his kids to help them get to the truth. "Look at what people do and then what they say.  When those are the same, you'll find truth" Mark brings up his ex wife as an example Then the guys bring up justice Jim…"it's not what you say, it's what you do". His neighbor said, "I thought we were friends?  Mark reacts aggressively to that behavior Jim says this guy was many things…deceptive,  delusional and dishonest. He took the high road even as this guy dug his hole deeper, but he did tell him "you might want to get back on your meds" Mark loves that line Jim decided to let the guy keep revealing himself, but he continued to hold him accountable Mark thinks people who pretend to be dumb might be worse and he alludes to our current political landscape Mark brings up the trend of not asking follow-up questions. Then the guys go to Trump as an example and talk about his behavior. Also the contrast between Biden and Trump. Mark recognizes that many people feel Trump is a liar. Mark calls him an embellisher. A master embellisher who does so with a very specific intention to move people Mark says disingenuous people behave in 3 distinct ways. Raise their voice, change the topic or walkaway. People who are genuine will welcome follow-up questions Jim shares more words that he looked up based on this experience Cowards, clowns and characters Both guys feel that there are a lot of cowards in the world. Jim asks him to read the definition of coward Mark shares his frustration with people who are afraid to speak up about problems at work Jim is a big fan of his AI tool - Gemini. They joke about "her" Mark says Biden is also a clown. He reads the definition and they laugh about how clownish Biden is Mark talks about doing nothing. Either not taking a stance or watching bad things happen and not interveneing Jim talks about the Biden group and the lack of integrity Jim asks Mark…how can you tell what the truth is Mark brings up Bernie Sanders and gives him credit for speaking from the heart. He doesn't use notes Jim shares his thoughts about Kamala Harris and Mark replies with more Trump authenticity and how good he is at holding people accountable   Both guys speak highly of Trumps cabinet members Jim says "news does not get reported it gets created". Jim shares a story about a high school football coach who got run out because of a bullshit race issue. When the reporters came, she couldn't get anyone to bite on race…so they didn't run the story. They spent all the time and money wasted because they couldn't create the story they wanted Mark shares how he watches both sides of the news every so often just to see how the left is distorting. He says this in the context of his girlfriend's kids. They watch channels that distort facts Characters - Mark reads the definition Jim thinks the media is now full of characters. Putting on the show Jim asks about justice. Will we get any. He has stopped waiting Mark feels that he needs to leave this alone. It's affecting his mental health Jim believes in Karma