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I texted shio, because I'm keeping receipts. show is going to go today. Andy and I are going to talk, I don't know for how long about the actual Super Bowl. Sorry, not sorry.
Welcome to everyone on Spotify. We are going to talk about the game, but we'll also talk a little bit about the trailers that were debuted or teased on the broadcast. And we'll talk a little bit about the TV aspect of it. And then, seperate episode four, I'll walk in the woods there.
So that'll be like the last two minutes of the pod. How can I steer this? Green wall. Thanks for having me over yesterday.
Thanks for coming over. A calming presence, a great guest as always. I don't know if that's exactly true. I wanted to ask you about that.
Okay, stop before one second. I'm sure. We fucking won the second. Okay, sorry.
Go ahead. I feel like I am very even keeling everything about this stuff, but A, there was, you know, not like actual athletes talk about how you remember the losses more than you treasure the winds. That sounds like you're looking for something. The losses are how you more than you treasure the winds.
Yeah. Like, I kind of get that because 17 was such an electric feeling where I lost my mind and my face fell off. You did. You really got up up up.
The last time against the Chiefs, I had covid and I was by myself. So I was just kind of like that. So I turned it off and like didn't read and all the while I was trying to read. And this time I was like, this shit is over in 25 minutes.
And now I have to like basically, it was weird. I sat there for a while being like, well, you know, the Falcons fans were feeling this way against the Patriots a couple years ago, but like we had a Falcon fan with us. We had a remember with us. But yeah, I thought it was just like a comprehensively entertaining evening.
You like the tacos? The chicken was appropriately moist. Oh, great call. And that verde sauce you made was like, you know, like a little tip your cap to the eagles.
Yeah, it's also verde for the day. That's very nice. You know, it's also wearing a lot of room to have. But yeah, I feel like I was like, I was almost like vengeful against the Chiefs.
Like I was just sitting there and I was just like, I want, I want this to hurt. I did. First of all, you did. This is this bit is getting over last last week.
You were like, actually, I came out of me at the end of the Washington game where I wanted them to be to be placed on the physically unable to perform list dog on it. Not your dad. And then no, but this is you trying to modulate your Patrick Mahoney. You're gonna build us out in the morning.
Yeah. I tell the Lions fans about him. Let's leave him out for a week. Yeah, I think that first of all, you should be honest with our listeners.
You hate the Chiefs. Yeah, I do. I think they are evil. So there was an extra little bit of a little bit of juice for you.
I'll say that this was my dream football game. I know it was kind of strange to watch it with you because it was like, look at this kid getting everything he wants. I was so happy. I we grew up watching like bang right there.
We what we grew up watching Super Bowl blowouts. And that's what other teams would do. Certainly never our team. It did leave us a little bit like energy confused, I would say because the first half was so exciting.
And then Kendrick did to Drake what the Eagles did to the Chiefs. And then we just kept doing it to the Chiefs after. And I've had a bunch of people ask me today, like, Oh, are you hung over from celebrating? I'm like, I'm 47.
Like I keep it measured. But also West Coasters limit, you know, well, there's two parts to it. One is we definitely have massive phone mode that we're not climbing, not climbing grease poles and so they'll be right now. The people to chance to sing along the meat mill at three in the morning on Broad Street or my brother's really the idea of like, let's go to a bar in Highland Park.
Everyone go, I would definitely win. I know. But the other thing that was weird was that because it was I had so much nervous tension at the beginning of the game, even though I am on record saying I thought they would win and maybe even have a blowout. I didn't want to drink too much at the beginning.
And then usually the anxiety fuels. What do I do with my hands? I know I'll fill them with bottles of beer, which I will empty indiscriminately into my face. But weirdly, I was being kind of responsible and then also we had so much time to go.
But we also had to, I mean, yeah, but I was still like white knuckling from the beginning. But we also had opportunities to have conversations like we've never had before, you know, just like about like what's the resistance really going to do this time. And also more specifically, you can't leave when this is over. We have to have a drink and then you're like, I'm saving my bullets for when we have our celebratory drinks.
So I was like, oh, I better crush water for the third quarter. So I was getting way too in my head. We did a shot. Yeah.
I opened some champagne that you did not partake. I don't like champagne that much. That's because you're not used to the taste, you know, because we don't win enough. We win plenty.
Honestly, and now I'm starting to get a little bit weird because like typically an underdog chip on the shoulder city franchises, we're starting to get our beaks wet a little bit. I don't mind it. I think you should begin to live like Ben Wishaus, character in Black doves, which is champagne all the time and also be proficient with a shotgun. I feel so happy for this team because I love them as people.
And I'm thrilled. I think I celebrated Milton Williams strip sack, Jalen Carter full on shot to the face on my homes. Yeah. I celebrated that more than the actual victory.
Like I think that was when my barbaric Yap came out. It did. It did. I mean, I look, what's your favorite moment?
What I want from a quarterback from my quarterback is just you can honestly you can now Lord this over me if you want to do it now. No moment is too big for him. Okay. He's a winner.
I agree. I was saying another bad thing about him. He's my cool book forever. Also, he's not cool, but he is in my cool book.
What was wild was how quickly the America's darling team just looked like losers who had their hearts ripped out. Like they look real sad. I think we can't beat them. That's cool.
That's awesome. I love that. It was, but it is also to just to harken back to those Super Bowls of your that you and I grew up watching where San Francisco would score like 50 points before halftime. This is how I remember them.
That was always the refrain that Super Bowls were bad football, like a fun party day, good commercials, but a bad game. That was the inventory for us. And we've gotten spoiled for the last few years with good games, even though we lost a heartbreaker two years ago. Who forget this seven, three Rams, Rams, Prince, it's game.
But this year was the most unique thing for us, which is most of America probably thought this was a bad football game. That's my platonic ideal of a football game. I loved all of it, which in turn like I wasn't really zeroed in on the other hoopla. Like the Commander in Chief being at the game?
Our Commander in Chief running scared when his... His beloved Redman did not make it through. I did appreciate that. Do you think there's some other random observations about the game, not sports related?
Do you think this was the worst day of Paul Red's life? And I say that because I feel like it's a wonderful life and I do not wish it was on him. But the camera did find him a lot in his booth. That's a great question.
I mean, I saw, I wondered whether how they sussed out that Ham was going to lead the Chiefs out. Like how he got the nod over- Do you think it's just straight landman? It's like... It's not landman.
It's your friends and neighbors in the Apple halftime show. That's true. He has a show coming up on Apple. So that's why it's his turn.
I also, did you hear, I didn't know this, that Bill said that Ham was saying Lewis Rams fans. He's from St. Louis. And it's switch allegiance.
Switch allegiance is when the Rams left. Even though he himself came to Los Angeles. Yeah. I'm just saying.
Position healing myself. Just saying. While you still can. Yeah.
Bradley Cooper and Son led our team, the Victoria's team. Yes. How do you feel about the honestly surprise revelation that Annie Hathaway is gangrene? I love you using Annie as if we could get drinks with her every Wednesday.
I met her once. Other people called her Annie. Not me. I did not know that she had that in the bag.
I didn't know that she was, honestly an evil spam, but she seemed delighted. It all kind of shook out on the right side yesterday. I mean, even I'm not trying to... Just saying it was pretty fun watching Taylor get food a little bit.
Oh, careful. Was it? Careful. I made a passing comment about how she stands up at a word shows the other day.
And I saw that our listenership took Umbridge at my unfair characterization of her. Just by saying that she certainly does seem to find the camera and stand up. So I would be careful. Um, especially in my household, my older daughter was just texting me, uh, chiefs images.
Yeah, I just didn't. I wasn't into that. What is worth on the record? Did not watch the game.
I feel like I was suggested in trash talk. Perhaps inappropriate. Yeah, perhaps. Um, okay.
Well, I mean, did you have a favorite moment? It's not from that strip sack. Was it this mini touchdown? Yeah, the touchdown.
We don't have to do actual twitching. No, we're going fully special. I think to do this. But one of the greatest, well, speaking my children, I did say like this is the greatest day of my life.
The pause was too long before I said the third greatest day. Like I the first to be 2017. Exactly. And the Phillies were listening to his shit.
I did let that linger. I was in game one of the NBA finals. That was actually my favorite. I do.
I'm taking off one of my green layers by the way. Um, I do regret that. No, I liked it when when we we sacked my homes once and we sacked them again and on third and 16, Cooper, did Jean picked him off and returned to frittas now. That was a great birthday.
That was a great moment for me. Yeah. And exciting. What a great time.
It was awesome. Did you want to talk it all about Kendrick? I enjoyed it. I also felt like the super computer was processing other data while it was happening.
Do you know what I mean? Well, let's talk about the character that you were threatening to debut yesterday. You showed up and you said, what if I raw dogged the super poll? Now some people listening may have or where there's a trend piece that people are like raw dogging long flights.
Yes. Just look at the back of the seat or the map. You just did that. They made Danny Kelly when they, they, the rare famous football show that Danny Kelly came in last place and like some play out there.
So he had to raw dog the flight from New Orleans to Los Angeles. Yeah. How do you do? I'd singly.
You just sit there like Idris Elba in the first episode of iJack, right? You do nothing. Yes. I think it's a very rare idea with that you would come to my Super Bowl party, consume nothing.
Consume nothing, maybe water and not make any conversation. No. And then at halftime, instead of watching Kendrick, you said that you would retreat to a back bedroom to watch Steve. And just crush Dave.
I think this is, I think this character has legs. Oh God. The world's most popular Super Bowl party guests. Just staring ball-norcs.
So, so you felt like though, were you really wondering whether like Andy Reid would like unlock of Hangio's too high safety system in the second act? That's the second act, second half. There was no lead big enough in the end of the first half for me not to be like, they're going to go in the locker room at halftime and come up with some, they're going to be like, this is what they're doing. So we have to do this.
Right. And then just come out and score like two quick touchdowns. And then it all starts to be a little tight. And I just honestly like, I can't imagine being in the room with you while that was happening.
Oh, wait. By the way, savvy listeners are noticing you were more nervous than I was. Wasn't that I didn't know where to put the emotion because it went right here. Everything went to the right way.
So like when everything is breaking your way. Yes. Yeah. I was used to like, I was just really anticipating sure in the dream world of dream worlds, Kenny Pickett is in the game at the end, like taking snaps.
You can't even dig. Yeah, it was. But instead I was like, oh, it'll be closed and some homes and it's the raft. So who knows?
And it's like weird neutral. Didn't matter. Didn't matter. I thought Kendrick was amazing.
I thought the theatricality of it was wild. I thought like I just remember as it was starting, I remembered some, I was probably calling a reporter or something article. Now almost 10 years ago being like, what is the next generation of Super Bowl halftime shows going to look like because we've pretty much exhausted the baby boomer classic rock generation of of. Springsteen.
Yes. Springsteen Prince like who that well is pretty much tap dry. So other than having Chris Martin from Coldplay on standby, like what will these shows look like. And I think one of the just the argument was we'll.
It's a ball breaker back together. So that would have been everything going right for you. I said the Smiths. The Smiths and Jawbreaker were the special guests not Serena Williams grip walking like everything is for you today, Chris.
And one of the questions asked by this piece was like, would a kind of straight up hip hop artist have the halftime show or does it need to be mitigated with like an artist who has pop songs or hip hop artists, the guests and someone else's whatever. Yeah. Does it need to be like a traditional four quadrant entertainer? And I was thinking about that.
Well, Kendrick Lamar just called Drake a pedophile and has no radio hits really other than like Humble and maybe the Black Panther song and then not like us, which just is like the biggest hit. Yeah. But what is in no way is a traditional radio play like Jay Z had to make Empire State of Mine. Kendrick does not do that.
So that was wild to see. Yes. And then the theatricality of it in the sense of like the choreography, the imagery, Samuel L Jackson, the way that it used the length of the field in a way that I'm not used to seeing and maybe I'm not used to seeing it because so much of it is filmed for the camera design choreograph for the camera. I mean, I'm not used to the platform to platform but this looked long.
This is my takeaway was that it felt very much like a piece of performance design. It's especially for TV. And I wonder whether or not that's because Kendrick's music is so intricate and also like his catalog for his fans and for like a lot of people are like very familiar with Kendrick's music but it isn't like born to run or poker face, you know, or whatever it's it's going to be like something that you really want to see the performer performing the actual music rather than like this elaborate like fireworks going off as they come in from like. He's also not a show.
I mean, he's a showman in terms of how he entertains in his career like in terms of like gladiator style, but he is he's charismatic and he's magnetic but he's not like a big bombastic show. Everything is small concentrated and precise, including his just smiles camera. I guess if I was trying to think if I was really building out this character that I have of raw dog in the Super Bowl zagging to Drake at that very moment would have been a cool wrinkle. If I was just like, I'm gonna go back.
Amazing. I listened to the early mixtapes. Yeah, just just just take your laptop back. When I'm not watching tape, I'm doing a chronological drake.
We listen, you take your laptop back to Marvin's room and really crush the tape there. I think that would have been an amazing move by you. I thought it was really surprising and really good. And I thought was it.
Someone on the ring or say about how this was the Super Bowl for the victory of haters. I like that. I like that. You want to talk a little bit about some of the trailers or is there any more game stuff you want to talk about?
Yeah, we can talk trailers. Like, do you think we're not the ones to wonder what IceBice and Hime felt like as the third story. What the fuck was Hime wearing fucking chief's gear? Like, you don't have is that like a requirement to get into the box?
I would think so. I mean, it's super corny. Yeah, I like Hime. Yeah.
But like, yes, that's not cool. You guys are from the Valley. Do you know what I respect? Like when they did the thing where they show the international fan base watching the Super Bowl and they cut to like Istanbul and there's a kid just pointing to his Raiders.
He's got a hair transplant. He's got Travis Kelsey's old scalp. But his wearing a Raiders jersey. I respect it.
Yeah. Yeah. You just have to. Our queen, Kylie Kelsey did this last year where she's like, I want Trev to be happy, but I will never wear another team shit.
Hell yeah. And that's I'm not saying Alana. I think Alana was just showing. I think Esti and Danielle were wearing chief stuff.
Look at you. They were selecting out your preferred Hime's history. Like the one that's down with PTA is cool. Fuck the other two.
Hey, I mean, she's in the next movie. She's the one. That's your push. I like a lot of it.
Yeah. I mean, I like all of them probably. But this was corny. I agree.
Yeah. We were also not paying total attention to commercials. But we were. Well, generally multiple trailers about body dysmorphia.
That's what I wanted. Yeah. Where it's just like, mustaches flying off and eyebrows flying off. Tongues flying.
Yeah. They were fucking bizarre. Like watching the substance. Keep that shit in Istanbul.
If you're swapping that stuff out, go cross an ocean. Don't put it on my screen. We used to be a society. Speaking of it, it did seem like our country is deeply sick.
It's from just commercials. Yeah. It really, I continue. How are my Christ in the oil industry?
Do you like your land man? Permercial is like, you want to have a baby? You better thank Papa Petroleum for these chairs. There's a lot of talk on the streets about how these electric cars.
The streets are the three sixes. The streets are the four sixes of rage. I'll go on. I was surprised to see.
That guy being like the reason why this EKG near like works is because of the oil and gas industry was awesome. That was incredible. Even forward, I believe 18 minute commercial for Jeep that did feature some kind of woke shots of him plugging one of them in. I was surprised that made it through.
Yeah. Well, I'm just bummed that they didn't cut down being red hole. In that commercial. What kind of Jeep does red hole like to drive?
A big one. Yeah. Cherokee with the top off so we can get his shoulders up in there. Do you have the same vibe that I do coming?
I mean, I said this the other week, but like I just have a there is like a last call to the money bar vibe to all this stuff right now with just like, that's what I mean. When I say stuff like that, everybody's always in everything now commercials are no longer taboo. I was happy to see a decent makey commercial, honestly. Do you see the Jalen one?
Yeah, Jalen one and the Sabrina and Caitlin one. That was good. Yeah. There's a certain tier of performer or celebrity where it's like Willem Defoe and Catherine O'Hara for the blend and beer.
Well, that is the major difference between when we were kids and now is like the actors just do ads now all the time. That is but that's totally different. Yeah. But I also don't mind them getting a paycheck to maybe get a country house.
Did you think Jeremy Strong really like unwound his reputation as a difficult method actor? He's been accepted back. There's a certain level of it has gone too far for me with a sense that like brands pay $4 million for like a half spot and the spot is go online and watch our commercial. Yeah.
You make donuts. Well, speaking of it. I'm not going to watch your commercial. They did that with the Thunderbolt tab.
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I was. I was. He ran sort of like a little shadow if you film within the company briefly called Marvel Knights that led to a rebirth in Daredevil that a lot of the TV original Netflix show was pulling from that run. He greenlit a writer named Paul Jenkins idea, which was I'd like to create a Marvel character who is hugely important and woven into the fabric of the at that point 40 plus years of Marvel continuity, but no one remembers him.
That's for a reason. And the character is like a Superman like figure. Why does nobody remember him? I don't want to spoil the comic, but it was basically in order to defeat his supervillain he had to be forgotten.
And so he went into, so in this mini series. It's just like seven. And it was very cool. It was a very cool idea.
And it led to people having fun with like, oh, this is when the centering Captain America teamed up. And this is when Captain America and the Hulk, centering the Hulk teamed up in the past. The moment of these characters development. Well, selling action.
It is, that's the reference I'm looking for. Like, severance, no, no, no, that's not it. It's like zelly. That's why people tune into this podcast and not the other ones.
Anyway, future other iterations of the character have made him more Shutter Islandy and kind of insane and more trending more villain, mainly because just again, like his power set and what he looks like seems more DC-like. He is more like a Superman figure in the MCU. Okay. And so introducing him with this version that is a little bit villainous or at least crazy is a, interesting and be a nice counterpoint to what the movie's strong suit seems to be as voice in the trailer, which is we were a group of people who just punch and shoot.
And we actually don't have all this. Which they make reference to. They're like, so all we can do is punch and shoot. So when the shadow is over the city, is that sentry somehow?
Or his alter ego, the void? Oh, okay. Cause I was wondering if maybe that was like when Sokovia got lifted and if somebody had like flown Sokovia over. What if there, it's interesting.
Do you respect the singularity of the Sokovia event or would you, would you appreciate it? What should happen again? Yeah. Do you think the other villains could be like the way to defeat cities?
It's like winning the Super Bowl in 2017 is a singular experience. But I do enjoy seeing it happen more once. Now you've done it again. According to Wikipedia Sebastian Stan has described Bucky Barnes's role within the film as a kind of Jack Nicholson's character, Randall McMurphy, in the film One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, an individual coming into a chaotic and degenerate group whose members he finds away to unite.
This is, that's king shit. That's amazing. Was he coached up by the Russo brothers to say that? I respect it.
Also again, it does seem to be the theme for our coverage of the MCU this year that they seem to. We seem very pro. I am pivoting back. This all seems promising.
They've got some of their mojo back. And the timing is working out. Watch out, reverse. I'm coming from your corner of that.
It's really special. Any pub with this one. Put me on. When this movie was announced, I think we probably disparagingly said, this is a collection of actors who can't lead a movie.
These are not movie star actors. These are a B team. And maybe they'll steer into that, being a B team. But I was lumping it into the same run of post-end game Marvel projects where it seemed to have an ego to it that they could just put anything together and make it a movie.
And there was also, was this going to be a TV show that it was going to be a movie? It's had reshapes. It's like, you know it. But one of the things that's broken their way is that Sebastian Stan is now an Oscar-nominated actor.
Yes. Obviously, he was famous and popular because he's been in the biggest movies of the last 15 years, thanks to Bucky Barnes. But him being suddenly like, oh, yeah, that guy. He is a bigger star.
He is a big deal. And then the ace and the whole being Florence Pugh, being awesome and being awesome at this part, makes it seem kind of fun. And it's a similar thing. We're like, Captain America Brave New World?
It's trailer. It's trailer, Jordan Super Bowl was like, you should see the shit in IMAX. There's a whole, like, they seem to be operating from a little bit of a position of comics. They have the swagger back.
Yeah, because they're like Vic Fangio hitting into this game. No, I think that they actually know people are going to come see that Brave New World and that they have a little bit of everything. Can I, one last thing I've underbolts? Sure.
I can't decide whether this really should be an overt part of the podcast going forward. But my daughter's getting into the MCU now and me rewatching some of this stuff is going on. You want this to be my story? Your rewatching with your kids is like a big part of our pod?
I'm saying it's a big part regardless, because I only watch like four hours of things in the town. I think you want to do an MCU rewatching anthology series with me as we get to Thunderbolts or something. I don't know if I can do it by Friday. MCU, I see you.
That could be art, right? Oh, and that would be the pit. And MCU movies everywhere, every episode. That's fine.
No, just that we watched, I re-watch, they watched the Guardians of the Galaxy. And I think those movies are great and they work really well. But they have not seen the third one. No.
Because the overt animal torture. Also, because as you know, Chris, I don't want to insult you, but I'll just say it for our listeners. The third one takes place after the events of Infinity War and Endgame. So they're suddenly now invested.
Right, so you have to keep it on the right timeline here. You have to keep it on the sacred timeline. But I bring it up to say, Guardians of the Galaxy was such a wild swing and investment on characters that people didn't care about or know about. All these Thunderbolts characters have been introduced previously.
But if they leaned into that muscle that's been kind of dormant, then we're going to make a team of loveable outlaws, family, and that's what they're doing. There's a track record of that. Yeah, the Eternals. I want to gods.
Why do you get a fam? I think, first of all, I welcome this. I can't wait till you get to the Eternals part of your re-watch, because your kids are definitely going to like it. First of all, this is like, it's like history.
You bring up the Eternals, it's like spags to uncover zero. You're just bringing it, and I can pivot. The Eternals came from, Eternals was in the Imperial era where they're like, we can do anything, and we don't actually have to make this fun. We can just tell you which characters you care about.
And they are not in that position anymore. A couple other trailers that dropped Mission Impossible Final Reckoning, which they are really leaning into the more emo vibes of this, where it's like our connection to Ethan Hunt over the decades. Can I just use that? Uh-huh.
Do you think Tom Cruise has really signed off on the ad campaign being like one swans final swans final? Yes, because I think that worked so well for Top Gun Maverick. And I think realistically, like, he has done seven of these. So I think he's, or however many.
So he's starting to work with other directors. He started to work on like, he doing other projects. He's got an interview coming out. He's admitting that this might be.
I started admitting defeat, but I think, you know, I think it got to the point beyond parody, where is he just going to do these until he dies? On set, making one of these. Yeah. So.
Do you think Ethan Hunt survives this movie? Oh, yeah. For sure. I mean, they will never close the door.
Just like they didn't close the door on Maverick. Yeah. But I think that the marketing of Maverick being like, I'm here to salute you and say goodbye to the legacy of this character was very effective, as was just fucking fighter jets flying around. There were a bunch of factors that play here, in the post game stuff.
No. Miles Teller was at the game and he has like a homie with him, who's like another actor. I forgot his name, but it was like they were interviewing Miles Teller and his friend was definitely getting his like, his ball nowhere in his on. It was so cool.
I would definitely, if Miles, if I was friends with Miles Teller and he was like, yeah, come come down to the field with me. He's NFL network is going to interview me. I'd be like, I'm definitely getting some fan to you. You get some stuff?
Yeah. Mission impossible. So I am very excited for Final Reckoning. It is just, it's been a stunt spectacular.
And that's how it's been sort of perceived for such a long time that it's interesting to be like, ah, yes, Ethan. Yeah, I mean, I've never engaged with these movies for plot. I cannot tell you the plot of any of them. And Macquarie has been talking about how this is the culmination of like this 30 year story.
And I'm like, a story is pretty jagged, but we'll say, he does seem to be his thing though. He does like Macquarie does like doing that. He does seem to enjoy the puzzle piecing together of like Henry Trini showing up in that last movie. Like as if this was all one thing.
I don't care. Just the only outside of an airplane again. Drass world rebirth. I've spoken at length about this.
I was curious what you thought. Can you, can you give me your tight, tight 30 on why you're in on this? Because I know that you are on front street being like, you're in on this movie, you're in on the dinos. I think that you start with behind the camera.
And I'm a Gareth Edwards fan. You always have it. Yeah, some monsters and the creator and obviously he did, you know, Rogue One until he didn't. But there's some really cool stuff in Rogue One that I assume is him.
And then I have a hard time believing Scarlett Johansson and Mahershala Ali would do a shit blockbuster they just don't need to. So I hope that there's like a reason why, I just want to believe that there's like a reason why they were drawn to this even though on the surface, it is basically like the same as every Jurassic park or world movie. I think that's an interesting point. And one that I'm sure Sean and Amanda have and will continue.
And David Kevin's. So I'm just like David Kevin's really good story, I hope he nailed it. No, they went, they invested in quality, you know, they got good coordinators on both sides of the ball. You know, and that's usually a recipe for success.
I mean, Scarlett Johansson, the economics of the world or that Scarlett Johansson and Mahershala Ali do need a blockbuster. They need to be affiliated with something to do whatever they want to do, whether it's the art house movies they're interested in or the extension on their Hampton's house, whatever it is, they need to be affiliated with these movies. And Scarlett is out of the MCU although we'll see what's your word around. And for the same word stuff.
And is Mahershala Ali ever going to play Blade? Do you care? I don't. So this, I'm not sure if it's entirely like art driven.
I guess I'll be honest, you know, I've been living in the lie too long on the mic. You don't care about dinosaurs. I have never engaged with any Jurassic content since the second Spielberg movie. Did you ever rewatch the first one?
I have rewatched it. My kids are too scared to watch it. But not every two years or anything like that. No, it's one of my favorite blackbusters ever made.
I loved it. I mean, I was a big, I know it's not cool, but I was a big, crazy kid. You know, I was reading those books. I remember getting the hard cover of Rising Sun being like, whoa, maybe maybe Japan is a little more.
Disclosure. Oh, yeah. Wow, it goes both ways, everyone. But I read those books because of Jurassic Park and the Andromeda strain.
Like I was deep in that stuff. And I like that. And John is a viral outbreak. Yeah, I was like, that could never happen.
Mikey C, vision, the vision. That said, like I went to the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. And Jurassic Park lost world, right? Timesores come to us.
To say Diego, I think. And I was like, what more stories are there to tell, truly? Plenty. About dinosaurs.
They could be like I have this is that we are not so far from the last Jurassic world that we need to rebirth. You know, like I think that we could have let it cook for a little while, see what what we could do with like technological upgrades on dinosaurs, maybe even reimagine like which dinosaurs were showing preferential treatment to. Are we a little bit too enamored with raptors? You know, like I just think that there's a lot of species out there that we could have fussed with.
Oh, I thought you were suggesting a revisionist history, kind of like what then you often wise we're going to do with Confederate. Oh, right. Like a world where like the dinosaurs won. And maybe, you know, they were misunderstood.
The dinosaurs did win. There's six movies. They still have it. There's still an extinct.
But so why can't we do what meteors did? What's our problem? What is our innate weakness? But I guess I was surprised by that.
Also, do you know that there's like a crypto right wing thing about how dinosaurs don't exist? And I don't think that these movies are helping combat that. Huh? Because it's all about like engineering them.
Oh, yeah. Oh, is if they never were real? Well, I did. There are dudes out there like flat earther types who are like dinosaurs aren't real.
Like there was not the big this didn't happen. Tell me what's the upside of that argument? Like how do you monetize that? It's not as the same as for all the arguments.
It's just to be like, I know better. Oh, yeah, that's everybody. I don't know what how it makes you feel differently going through your life to be like dinosaurs never walk to this earth. It gives a shit profoundly what you just said.
No part of my existence except a diorama I made in first grade would have been affected by the lack of dinosaurs. One less place fun to take your kids if they're never dinosaurs. You mean Jurassic Park wouldn't exist? No, like the natural history museums that are around the world.
I thought you were making the argument that children couldn't experience. Because the other thing I'm noticing from this trailer is it does seem to be a prerequisite of a Jurassic protagonist to bring a child like that is the one nod to the Spielberg. Well, in most of the kids in this Jurassic universe are meds and they often are still ways. Oh, they just want to get closer.
They're like, oh, no, I want to see it. Is this your kid impression? Keep going. That's how kids sound.
You ever know kids be talking about this? I realize voices. But they're stowing away on boats to go to a little drats. He's the New Bar.
He's the New Bar. He's the New Bar. I guess I'm just sort of surprised that the vibe all of this makes sense from entertainment perspective. We're spending way more time on this.
I thought we would. But it's just it's like they just hunt the dinosaurs. They're no like good dinosaurs. They're not hunting them.
They're trying to get their they're trying to extract DNA from them to cure cancer or whatever. Or whatever. Yeah. I also don't buy my right wing thing.
Not it's not right. It's like I am suspicious that there is like a cure for Alzheimer's to be found inside of like sharks or dinosaurs, which is frequently like if we could just get this bone marrow out of this velociraptor, just whatever suffering. I'm like, why? It just wants to eat us.
But when you look at velociraptors, like, how do we know they own velociraptors? You know, what if you were cured of Alzheimer's, but kind of after a little rapping? Do you know what I mean? Honestly, quick twitability.
You know, I would love to. That's true. Maybe at 48, I could join the e-colos. Yes, this is the last thing on the subject.
But I think that there's five, seven, five, one, six, six, six, six, four, after. And yes, I did have a touch of Alzheimer's previously. It's procured. That medication.
I do think that sometimes I don't know if this has any value for our listeners, because I do think many of our listeners are our contemporaries and peers. But certain things we talk about, like when I tell my children about VCRs, for example, and they're like just dazzled and confused. I don't think it can be overstated what a big deal it was when Jurassic Park came out, not just because of what a huge movie it was, but because it basically made a new, big wake up new dino just dropped. Like we weren't really up on velociraptors.
We grew up in an era like Terems. So Stegosaurus is a bradosaurus. From Saratops, everyone's super into and T-Rex. Like there's some eggplants.
Yeah, they've crunched around omnivores at best. And then they're like, no, there's a cool fast one. So cool and fast that they named an MBA expansion team after it. In Canada.
Within like two years. Yeah. It was huge. And historically they found Raptor Bones in Canada.
They just thought it was cool. I think they just thought it was cool. I mean, we're, everybody in T.D. let us know.
Why did you guys name your team? No disrespect, but we're just coming off of a night that kind of pointed out the way one Canadian hijack something that was cool and made it his own. I'm just noticing something. You stole some dinosaur valor.
Just saying. The only last one I had was sinners. I didn't know if you'd watch the full trailer for this. I did.