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EPISODE · Mar 2, 2026 · 54 MIN

The End of Wireframes, a Robot Vacuum Army, and Why Designing Backwards is the Way Forward

from Works But Makes Noises · host David McGillivray & Jacob Heftmann

Robot vacuum fleets, Claude code experiments, Personal SaaSpocalypse, closed loop design workflows, building before designing, design is the bottleneck, pushing to prod, the death of wireframes, grey box trauma, and unlearning the process.David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftmann is a Los Angeles-based surfer and graphic designer. He is currently the Design Director at Grilli Type. Previously he was on the faculty at Parsons and founded XXIX and Index in New York City.Artwork by Pablo DelcanMusic by Mondo BoysArtwork typeface; GT Standard Mono by Grilli Typewww.worksbutmakesnoises.com

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Robot vacuum fleets, Claude code experiments, Personal SaaSpocalypse, closed loop design workflows, building before designing, design is the bottleneck, pushing to prod, the death of wireframes, grey box trauma, and unlearning the process. David McGillivray is a designer and creative director in upstate New York, designing for early stage tech companies through his own practice. He also co-founded Offhours and runs Corners, an art and design store in the Catskills. Jacob Heftmann is a Los A...

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