The Exorcist III (1990)

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There is not that weird world. I'm just saying, it's that actual allotted time. When we think of the 90s, we think of 97 and 96, and it's like that's because we were already in a few years of the 90s. This comes out in August of 1990, and it's just like the decade just started.

So it is kind of 1990s, just late 80s, really. Yeah. It is. And it does feel that way.

It is kind of weird. And Washington has this whole vibe that is really quite a wild setting for both actresses' movies. But you can see the most grunge horror movie of a very, very grunge, very, very grunge. And especially because Fabio makes an appearance.

I think that's the most grunge it could be. I do. The Fabio cameo definitely made it into my notes. So something that I think is worth discussing, exploring, et cetera.

Which version did you guys watch? I went with the theatrical cut that came with my Blu-ray. But there is infamously a director's cut of this that is supposedly more loyal to the book. So a 2B, and God bless 2B.

2B has both versions. So 2B has the Extra Street and then has the Extra Street Legion, which is the director's cut. Yeah, I watched the director's cut. You watched OK, you watched OK.

Only one that watched the other. I watched the other director. What an idiot. No, no, I think it's helpful.

And I also like I think it's just it's the major differences, the ending, if I remember correctly. But there is a whole don't worry. There's a whole Wikipedia of director's cut differences. That will be a little good.

I was telling Scott before we got on here, I am not really going. I'm not going to go like full synopsis because I think that there's so many moments that are in this movie that actually like that sort of defined the synopsis. But but the moments of this are so classic that I I'm going to kind of go that way with my explanation of it. But this movie really, really rips.

How many times have you all seen it before, if at all? This is my second. It's probably second or third. Yeah.

Like I'm sure I rented it and watched it at some point. And then I got the Blu-ray. I can't remember if I bought the Blu-ray on like a screen factory sale or if this was one that set me for free. And I always try to watch those when they come in.

So I definitely watched it those two times. And then this was the third time. This is I don't know. One of my first notes is I wrote there's something that's like weirdly comforting about just seeing the staircase and hearing two-player bells at like the start of the movie.

But like I like this movie. It's definitely better than Exorcist to the heretic, which is like a fucking nightmare of a movie. Really rough movie. Boy, the amazing score though.

That score is one of my favorite horror scores, even though it's like horrible movie. I'd never listen to it. Oh, magic and ecstasy you love. Yeah, I just think that this movie kind of falls into this weird category where it's like two movies.

And the movie that I'd rather watch is just the someone's murdering people in the hospital movie. This is an exorcism movie where I'd rather it not have possession and exorcism. And honestly, that's kind of the only reason I'm also not going through the synopsis too because the moments of horror are put in these longer moments of procedural and like shit that is just a little heavy. But that's because this is directed by the author of the exorcist and obviously he wrote Legion of this book, which I had read before.

And I really liked because I think in book form, the procedural part works really well. And then the horror part is heightened. It gives me big sort of like silence of the lambs and sort of those killer thriller vibes. But then like based in the religion too.

So it's a little it's a little weighty. So I imagine kind of directing your own novel also screenplay into this is a lot. And and famously William Peter Blatty is and famously William Friedkin difficult, difficult relationship. So then him coming back to do an exorcist is pretty is pretty wild.

And George C Scott in this is so good. He is so good. As I want to listen to. Let's talk about who the real star of the show is.

The terrifying Jesus statue face made of wood. That's just I'm shocked that that's not your backdrop. I know that right at the beginning of the movie when that happens, I'm like, okay, we're in for something really kind of weird, right? It's a good it's a good indicator of what you're in for.

And it he looks like he's the cousin of buddy Christ. He really does. He does. It's not far off at all.

It's a very few year. I'm serving that. I would not like to be at that church. No, no, even not with its eyes opening and closing just that thing staring at you for an hour while you're like at a sermon or a wedding or I'm going to do a funeral with that.

That's a good one. You know, it's like that is that is a nightmare that I feel well, Scott, did you have that nightmare as a child Jesus opening his eyes on the altar? Did you have that nightmare? You like that has to be dominant.

No, because I believe that the Jesus that was on our behind our altar was had his eyes open. All I remember I'm trying to think back now and spend a long time to spend on that church, but I remember that they would so you know, they had a big fucking cross on the wall. And then they had Jesus like suspended off of the cross because it's supposed to symbolize the, you know, the reverb. The reflection or whatever.

No, no, no, no, the fucking basically him, you know, rising to the dead. I think that on good Friday, they would take, they would lower the statue and hide it for three days. Yes. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. He's fucking wild. The strip of the altar on Thursday, the night before they'll strip the altar so then there's nothing bad.

Yes. And they take all of us and that's right. Yeah. And then Easter Sunday, everything is, you know, decorated back.

Jesus is coming out of the tomb and everything's colorful and we're born. It's so never scared of Jesus. I was scared of God because God's the one that's going to send you to hell. That is so.

You guys, you are done wrong. Well, I'm going to tell you something. Maybe if it was like the heaven that we see in the ex, I don't know. Do you think that God, when I was a kid, I would swear and then I would under my breath be like, sorry, God, like, sorry, I got it.

Say it and say it. So if you ever questioned me being Catholic growing up, like there you go right there, but like I'm pretty sure that God doesn't give a fuck if it exists about you saying a word. Listen, my whole thing has always been because I refused my entire life to participate in Lent. And I was like, listen, I've worked for charities.

I've helped my fellow man for so long. If I die and I get to the pearly gates and they're not letting me in because I had sausage on my pizza during the Fridays before Easter, I don't even want to be up there anyway. You Catholic? No, but my mom was raised Catholic as a kid.

So like that tradition like made its way into our family. And I was just like, that's your thing. So I would tell her you have fun with that. I will enjoy.

Did you ever give up anything for Lent? Because I've told you the story of what I gave up for Lenten College, right? It was a masturbation. Yeah, I made it 13 days.

You know, there's a whole movie about that. Yes. But you know what broke me? It was actually a horror movie.

It was House of the Dead. Oh, man. House of the Dead got me too. But I had stopped matching me for six hours.

It was during Lent. It was just during Cinema X, like we get free. My mom's house. Why am I actually getting read?

Because I told that story. It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's hilarious.

We're watching about this. It was also the first time that we're active on TikTok a little bit more, Scott. This is very good. No!

Listen, if it's not a TikTok clip, it's still going to show up in the best of year 11. True. Let's talk about if we're going to kind of like not do a plot by plot beat, we have to talk about like what is the scene of this movie that people talk about. Because it is, you know, it's not.

Okay, so here's what I'm going to say. When I watch Jaws, we're going to bring it back to Jaws. There's a scene in Jaws where the boat is sinking and Chief Brody is inside the boat and the shark bursts through the side of the boat. And I've watched Jaws probably 50 times, if not way more than 50 times.

Like that is a movie I've watched so much as a kid. And that scene never fails to startle me because it feels like no matter how hard I work at figuring out how many seconds until that shark comes out so I can like mentally brace myself or the shark bursting through the side of the boat, I can never get it down quite right. And that's how I feel about this scene in Exorcist 3 is like, I know that the scare is coming. I know what's going to happen.

I know all of it, but I can never, every time she turns a corner, I'm like, okay, this is the part where it happens. And then she just keeps walking down the corridor. And it's kind of like that, that like family guy something, they do something so many times it stops being funny and then it becomes funny again. It's like that in the realm of a scare where you've been faked out by so many turns that you're just like, oh, fuck it, it's not even that scary anyway.

And then like the fucking hedge clippers just come out of nowhere and it's like, God damn it, you got me, you got well done. No, I remember hearing about that scene for years. There was a retro junk, I think was the name of the website. They had a, you know, and this is the mid, this is early 2000s, right?

So this is like 2002. And they just had, you know, just list on list on list, right? I'll pop culture list and they had top 100 scariest movie moments and I was obsessed. Like, you know when we hear stories about like monster kids with like famous monsters of film land, like that's my, like famous monsters of film and with that like list, like list, like sort of like early-ish internet.

In the days of Reddit horror clubs, someone on the R horror threads posted that that that's someone had uploaded all five hours of the Bravo 100 scariest moments count down. And I know I laid in my bed watching it for however, like four or five hours long because it didn't have commercials. So I'm sure like tightened it up a little bit, but I was like, this was on there. This is in like the top 10, I think of that Bravo list.

Like this is very respected scare for what it's facing wise. It's a great scare. I couldn't quite time it when I was watching it again. And then like that, you know, that list was only just a still image.

So I didn't even, you know, for the longest time, I was like, how, what? It doesn't even look, you know, and they're talking about how quick the timing is, all that shit. So then I finally watched it and it did. It got me so good.

And there's a couple other moments in here that are like really solid scares. It's quite, you know, there's a lot of visual shit going on, like a little more dreamy stuff and some weirdo stuff that kind of, when the scares come, they really hit that one being just an all-timer. Like if you haven't seen that kill, you, I mean, I think you should watch it in the context of the movie. The movie's pretty solid.

It only works in the context of the movie. But it really only works in the context of the movie. Before I watched the movie and I was like, okay, when you watch it with the movie, that suspense actually works. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that quick zoom. Oh, so good. I also really like, well, it's the scene that's my background.

We got a nursing home woman on the ceiling, which is like really, really good. Like really great person on the ceiling moment. My next note was, why do we not talk about the old lady on the ceiling scene more? Because she's so goofy.

It's so goofy, but it's like, I don't know. Like that's what I want. When I think of a horror movie night pick, I don't think of the nurse seed. I think of old lady crawling around on the ceiling.

That to me, you know, it was funny. I was thinking about a thing that I want to do for the Patreon maybe closer to July. These are Matt Kelly Shower thoughts, everybody. I was like, I want us to literally go through the first hundred movies that we did of this podcast as a trio.

This might have to be one that we do when we're all in person because I think it'll be more fun that way. But go through those first hundred episodes and try to determine which ones we think we need to do a re-rental of. And when I was thinking about it, what my thought was was like back in the day when asked what horror movie night was, I always pitched it as, and I need to get back to pitching it like this, it's the conversations you have after you rent it movies with your friends in the 90s. Yeah.

And if that's the mindset of it, there were always movies you would rent a second time because you enjoyed it so much with your friends. And I think that now that we're in year 11, there's no reason why we can't look at at least a handful and say, let's revisit a few of these. Yeah. Because I know for me, a lot of them, I probably haven't watched in the 10 years since we covered it.

I know that I haven't touched anything that we've just since we've discussed it. So exciting. I think it's like one of the only ones that I've ever seen. One of the only ones, but it's like, that's kind of the stuff where I'm like, oh, that would be a fun conversation.

That's fun. This is one of those movies that it's like, yeah, this is one of those movies you rent with your friends. Maybe you were like bored by it, and then like the Ders scene would happen, or the old lady on the ceiling scene would happen. It would like bring you back in.

Or towards the end of the movie, one of the sickest special effects when the dude's skull hits the back of the wall and you get the full muscle ripping out of the back of his head to reveal the skull. It's like, ah, ah, that's the most effective moment of violence in the whole movie, I think. Did you feel that? You're like, oh shit.

I mean, the book writing about the violence, speaking of like writing about the violence pretty like gnarly because like we're really getting into like what the murder bodies look like and all like the severity of that, which doesn't totally get touched upon. It got touched upon a little bit in here, but not as much as like, Blatty really writes about it. I totally recommend the book too. I mean, I would even recommend the Exorcist book.

As much as the first Exorcist film is kind of upheld as one of the greatest horror films of all time, like there's a lot to love about that book. I think the book is a more all in all. I think I look back finally more towards when I read the book than anytime I've watched the movie, if that makes any sense. Because like I read the book, I was working out of college and I would take an hour lunch break and I would bring books to read and that was one of the books that I read.

But I'm like, I remember reading it and being like, God, this is really fucking good. Like, I was reading it in the moment. I haven't revisited it in probably 15 years. I was before I knew Scott.

That was before I moved to California. That was the job I quit to move to California. Sorry, I was trying to catch up on why because I didn't do this research beforehand. What the difference is between the director's cut and what we watched and there is quite a bit.

But I kind of remember this happening now because in 2011, it's somebody edited together the different cuts of the movie to make the Legion cut and then Brad Durif was at a horror convention and intro'd it and did a Q&A afterwards. So like, this sort of comes back into the realm the same way like something like Night Breed does. I was just saying it's the same as Night Breed where fans had to assemble it first before studios actually were like, oh, there's like an audience that wants this badly enough. Let's just make it.

That is just crazy to me. That's the case. And so Brad Durif is in this and he does the most Brad Durif thing, which means he gets so little screen time but somehow just slams it every fucking time. He's so good in this.

And I think he's in it for like not even 17 minutes. It's something that's crazy. Like what might even be less than this. He's all I think about when I think about this movie.

Well, because it's a very, so I mean, like I wish that there was, I don't know if I wanted a director's cut version. How long was the version that you watched Scott? Oh, I think yours is an hour and 49 hours or the after goes an hour and 49. I think the director's cut is actually a little bit shorter.

Oh, well, that's the version I would rather watch because it is there's a lot of filler in this movie. I guess I lucked out this week boys. I think I put on the theatrical just assuming it was the shorter version. That's the normal reaction, right?

Yeah, that's the that is the correct reaction. But no, I think they're pretty close to this thing. I don't think it's like it's not significant. I know it felt long, but it always feels long.

So yeah, but yeah, this I so I love the accessibility on streaming that we can watch. Yeah, I don't know if I could determine which one. I don't think I'm gonna go back and watch another one, but I'm just on Wikipedia. It breaks it all down for us.

So we have that. But the last scene and this depiction of this sort of like this solitary confinement esque like hospital room that he's in that just turns into this hell. Oh, that's the best movie. Like such it's so great.

A little bit of a long walk to get there, but this movie I went and I looked at my letterbox when I last watched it. I only give it three stars and I feel like I liked a little bit more this time around. Maybe because I didn't watch it all the way. But I fast forwarded some of the middle stuff to make it to the end.

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I'll do it again. I'm not gonna do it again. For some of the scares some of the gore some like creepiness. This is one of the few that Carly was like, hey, I don't want to watch it.

It's actually giving me the creeps. This and Halloween three was another one that she hasn't finished yet, we have them in the third of the both part threes, but the three was giving her the Ick when the bugs came out of that woman's mouth. He was like, oh yes, but the voices and the whole actual like multiple people and voices and the legion of it all got hers. So she was like, okay, I'm good.

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We'll be waiting for you. So I want to read this quote that I did stumble upon before we go into double features about the original ending. On the topic of the cinematic exorcism scene, Blatty said, it's alright, but it's utter really unnecessary and it changes the entire character of the piece. At the time, Blatty told the press that he was happy to reshoot the ending and have some cinematic climax with a frenzy of special effects to compromise.

But apparently this compromise was forced on Blatty against his wishes. And then this is the quote that he has. The original story that I sold and that I shot ended with Kinderman blowing away patient X. There was absolutely no exorcism.

It was a Mexican standoff between me and the studio. I was entitled to one preview and then they go and do and then they can go and do whatever they want it with the film. They gave me a preview but it was with the lowest end of preview audiences you could have ever seen in your entire life. They must have dragged out some zombies from Haiti to watch this movie or something.

It was unbelievable. But I decided it's better that I should do this than someone else and I foolishly thought I could do a good exorcism. I can turn this pig's ear into some type of silk purse. So I tried my best and I think I failed.

That's pretty brutal cellphone right there. Wow. Catholic guilt much. And then Brad Dore apparently spoke on that too and said we all felt really bad about it.

Blatty tried to do his best under the difficult circumstances. I remember George C. Scott saying that folks would only be satisfied if Madonna came out and sang a song at the end of our movie. That's wow that's heavy.

I mean when there's been so much reconsideration of this over the years that I can't believe that that's also the going out feeling on this movie still. For those who are involved being like yeah it's pretty, it leaves a pretty bad taste in your mouth. I didn't know there was a video game too. There's Legion VR.

What? Which is best for real. What year? 2018.

Oh, let's not even more excited if it was back in the night. It was Sega CD. Oh man. Can you fucking imagine if it was basically like what was that that game that was banned sneaking a woman's house in like a sultur that was what was that game?

I think you're thinking of Brainskin. No. That's a real game. Night Trap.

It was real. Night Trap. Oh god. Yikes.

Night Trap is a 1992 interactive movie developed a movie. Oh, published by Sega for Sega CD. Yeah. Presented primarily through full motion video.

Night Trap has a player observed teenage girls having a sleepover. Visiting a house which unbeknownst to them is infested with vampires. The player watches live surveillance footage and triggers traps to capture anyone endangering the girls. Oh, okay.

That doesn't sound as awful but that's still weird. No, it's it's so but then let me like plot the game play in the with the rest of the. Congressional hearings in the US. Yeah.

Yeah, dude. Crazy. Okay. Oh, you can play it.

You can play it anywhere. It says available on PlayStation five. What? Yeah.

Well, I found what the first game is will stream for our movie. The first game. Oh, steam. You can get on steam.

Twenty-fiveth anniversary edition. Oh my god. All right. Well, Kyle, beyond making your friends play Night Trap after they finish watching X was his three.

What double feature would you make them watch? Listen, there's only one other movie that you follow this up with and it's one of my faves Stigmata. Oh, yeah. I saw your arms go out.

I didn't know if you're gonna say listen to Creed or watch. With arms wide open, I present to you Stigmata. Let me get higher. I don't think there's a world where you took my double feature.

So you go ahead, buddy. Okay. Well, I was trying to think of like a kind of like a cult classic possession film and I settled on session nine. Now that would be kind of a punishing double feature because they're very slow, but it feels stylistically similar.

All right. Well, people are gonna have fun when they come to my house though because I'm not going with possession. I'm not even going with religious stuff. I'm just going with people in a hospital.

Let's watch bad dreams. Oh, bad dreams. Love you. You did say you wanted more hospital.

I did want I wanted more hospital. I mean more hospital. So do you want more hospital? I can't provide that.

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And now Kyle, what have you been watching, reading, listening to, et cetera. So 30 minutes, not even before we started this. I just got home from sinners. I hear so many people say it's unbelievable.

It's really, really spectacular. Like the scale is great. The music and the cohesion of it all and the vampire, like all of it is so, so good. And listen, I saw it on maybe the lowest format of projection that I could.

There was, it was not the greatest projection. And I'm, I'm not sure if I'll complain to be that person or if I'm just going to suck it up. But I think like you, I think IMAX is actually the way to do it. Now the nearest IMAX to me is like an hour away, either way.

And it just means it's, but I totally get it. I'm like the thing is beautiful. The scares are great. The references are great, but it also stands completely on its own.

Like not, like, I mean, like direct horror references. And then above that is even just like cultural exploration and like representation. And then on top of how that all trickles down into a vampiric lore, it is spectacular. Like it is really, really good.

I highly recommend it. And it's fun. Like it's, it's accessible. Like it's so, it's just so good.

James from a Monster Rally podcast was on napping through Happy Hour this week. And he was talking about a how he's already seen it twice because it's his favorite film this year so far. But the one thing that he said that really grabbed my attention was he's like, Michael B. Jordan plays two identical twins.

And there is never a point where you don't know which brother he's playing at any point. Like he's so good at playing them as two separate characters that you are like, not even for a millisecond confused as to which twin is on the screen at any given moment. No, he's like, he's acting and it is unbelievable. I do it.

I completely agree. There's actually, well, no, I'm not going to spoil it. There's one moment where that comes into question, but it's not because they, you can't tell them apart. You're supposed to.

Yeah, exactly. It's like it's sort of, they're paralleling a thing. And we go back and forth between them in which they're dealing with the same instance, but they're still their own characters. And it's like, it's, it's so good.

And apparently, like Jonathan Majors was supposed to be like the other brother. But this is way better. Yeah. This is, this deepens the whole thing in such a, like as a whole other layer to it, which is just, yeah, it is kind of, I'm considering going to see it again, if possible.

You know, I'm asked because it's going to be like watching a VHS to like a fucking like, Oh, yeah, it's going to be a completely different. I think I sense that it'll be a completely different experience to watch it in that way. I may have to prioritize this one. Yeah.

I'm going to be around a couple more weeks than some of the other shit because like people just keep going, which is sounds like it's going to be the sleeper hit of 2025. Because it's getting such a ground swell attention without being like, like it's being promoted, but it's not, it's not a Marvel movie. You know, I mean, like it's not like getting all the money in the world thrown at it. So it's like people are just seeing it and telling other people to see it.

And it's, it does feel like it's a big word of mouth thing here, which is very cool to see. I however, prioritized finishing the series, you since the last season drops. I don't know. There was five seasons.

Yeah. That's crazy. I don't think I've liked any of the seasons, but once Matt Kelly starts the show, Matt Kelly finishes that show. We are aware.

Season five was fine. I think season five was, I was kind of expecting you to have a different opinion. No, I mean, you know what it was? Season five, I think, finally addressed what I was hoping because the show is weird, right?

The show is about a guy who stalks women and then eventually will like kill the people that get in his way of being with that woman. But then when that woman finds out that he's murdered, then he has to kill that woman and move to another woman. And every season, it's a different person that he has become obsessed with and the path of that. But like in a Dexter kind of way, they just cast it such a goddamn attractive man.

That like it kind of turned into like people were like, Oh, I'll let him date me. Oh, I know. That's literally all I know about the show. And this season, we'll be set up.

Well, it's the first season aired on Lifetime. That's right. And then Netflix bought it and did four more seasons. Season four was actually season four tees that being interesting.

And then like halfway through the Twisterfield and then it's not being interesting. But this season is all about shit coming down on him, basically. Like it's like there's too many lies. There's too many bodies.

And he's just trying to like get out by the skin of his teeth throughout the season. And I won't give away too much. But I'm weirdly. I'm going to give away the last line of the show, which is that in his voiceover narration, he's talking about how many women were throwing themselves at him.

And he says something along the lines of like, maybe I wasn't the problem. After all, maybe it was you. And it's like, I like the idea that it does flip it on the audience and just be like, Hey, every single one of you that was like idolizing this guy, even though he's like unhinged. Fuck off.

Like that being kind of like the final stamp on everything. I'm like, all right, I can work with that. But I'll never revisit it. You know, I mean, like there's certain shows that I watch and I'm like, like, really excited.

You know, Barb and I are like watching flight of the concords right now, because she's never seen it. And it's like exciting to share it with her. There's no one I want to share you with. It's a thing I watched.

I will. And there's no one I want to share you with either. Oh, I got to go. But it is.

But I mean, honestly, this season, so many people came back from past seasons for stuff. And I had to keep googling who the fuck they were because my brain just like dumps information, shows season by season. Very good. Yeah.

Always of it. Yeah. Exactly. But yeah, it was it's fine.

If you are a fan of the show, you you will enjoy the final season. If you had Stockholm syndrome and watched it, like I did it. It's fine. It's not the worst ending in the world.

I'll never think about it again. Scott, how about you take us home? Well, I watched here tick because it finally hit Max streaming. And have you guys watched it?

I did. Kyle, you talked about it already. I saw it on my birthday. Yes.

I just I don't know how parched you've been this whole time. I've been very concerned that I thought that you weren't going to say anything. So I wasn't going to say anything. No, she would this and you're sharing talking about here.

So I feel like it might if there's this is if there's a last chance that this is going to work and be proper. What are you drinking? Well, I haven't opened it. Should I open it?

Yeah. Open it open it, please. I don't have anything. So you have to carry this whole team.

Too late now. I know. I know. I thought that when the devil comes to visit, you don't you just let him keep on knocking.

Hey, they go knock it, but you can't come in. This is from Branchen bone, artisan ales. And nice. Oh, that's a good that's a good pairing.

Oh, that's good. That's good. Well, I texted Kyle a couple of days ago. And I'm like, like proud of myself, but also embarrassed because I said, so I have I've paired everything to get us through the summer.

And I was like, damn, I appreciate the I mean, you said something like that's good worker. Like I appreciate the husband. But like, and look, I didn't even support you in that. But like, no, come on.

I can use this one later. Yeah. It's OK, but I thought that the joke was pretty good. Not as good as the joke that we're going to have in a couple of weeks, but still a good joke.

Anyway, so I watched here at tick and I don't really think that it's not like a spoilery kind of conversation to be had, right? Like, I think that you kind of know that he's a bad guy and that the Mormon girls are. It's not a two. It's I sound like interesting in his visceral discussion.

And I think that the I would never watch it again. That's why I think that the the the I think that the dialogue was done very well. It was written very well. So it's great.

I have mixed opinions. I think I I think Dylan and I both said it was the most two and a half three star movie we could imagine. Like I felt so down the middle about it. I think that that and I know nothing about before this movie got made.

But if you had told me that this was a short film that they had expanded into a feature lens film, I would have believed you a hundred percent because it felt like short film idea and then just like felt like there was all this extra stuff at it to get them at least to like an hour and twenty. That's really interesting because for me, I felt like it was I felt like the pacing was supposed to be glacial, you know. Yeah. I thought that it was very interesting in that now with any other person playing the bad guy than he would probably would have been less charming and interesting.

But it felt like the first 45 minutes, maybe 50 minutes were was like a very interesting like philosophical theological discussion. And I think that they lost at least for me, I also can't tell you how I felt about the movie because I I really wanted it to go one way and it went the other way. And I felt like, OK, so I guess my problem is that you can't became too much of a bad guy in it where he's like basically saying that I understand the discussion that is being had, which is that religion, the crux of religion is control. And I am obviously fully behind that argument.

I don't know if I like OK, so you know you guys know the thing that bugs me to know and is when a writer now it's either a screenwriter, a, you know, a musician, a any kind of art, like anybody writing a story telling a story. I hate when they basically make characters do things or they put things in motion just to get the end result, just to get the aha or to get the like the zing. And I felt like it was so good from a theological argument and perspective until you see that final room in the basement. And I was like, yeah, I what I really wanted it was for it to be real, for there to be supernatural aspects to it.

I was actually not going to watch it because I assumed that there were no a supernatural aspect to it. I watch it because I was like, it's on. Well, actually, I watched it because of Sophie Thatcher was all thought about her next week. I was like, you know what?

I think it's going to be good no matter what, even if there's no supernatural stuff. But the final twist there bothered me because it felt like I could not. I could accept most of the decisions that were being made by the characters in the movie until you see the room with all the other girls. Yeah, because I can't accept that that's the logical final step of the whole experiment, the thought experiment.

Yeah. Yeah. I feel it. But I also really Sophie Thatcher at her final scene really bothered me too, because I'm like, if you're not if you're not going to give me supernatural and then you're going to fucking edge me with this supernatural shit in the last two minutes, I you're not gaining my trust back.

Yeah. Yeah. You're really cool concept. But like I felt like the ending and the ending was like, oh, it's supposed to be ambiguous.

It's very fucking obvious to me. I don't understand what people thought it was ambiguous. So I read a couple of things afterwards. I'm like, come on guys.

Ambiguous is taking the place of unexplained. And it's like, there are two different things. Like, you know, it's they're kind of they're not one and the same, I don't think. And yeah, I would think that.

Yeah. I hear what you're saying. So I just like to my walk. No, no, actually, one of those things where the final, like it's like when you're eating a really good meal and the last bite has some gross texture to it.

And you're like, that almost ruined the whole meal with a meal was pretty tasty. I'm going to the last bite. That's what I'm feeling about here. It's good.

Well, I hope that this week's episode of Horror Moving Night was good to the very last bite. And hopefully you'll come back for seconds next week. So stay tuned for more Horror Moving Night. Put down that smartphone and listen to me.

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