EPISODE · Sep 4, 2026 · 27 MIN
The Fall of the Invisible Realm
from Between Two Realms · host Andre Beck
Most of us tell the story of the fall with only one character in it. Adameats, the world breaks, and everything that follows is about putting thevisible world right. But Ephesians 1:10 says Christ's redemption was alwaysmeant to gather the whole cosmos, visible and invisible, under his headship.So if heaven's corruption is missing from our doctrine of sin, heaven'sredemption goes missing from our gospel, and the good news gets smaller thanit is.In this episode Pastor Andre takes up the trickiest question in Scripture:where the serpent came from. Genesis 3 never explains how a snake learned totalk, and it never explains why Adam and Eve were not surprised to meet one.Reading Eden as the throne room of the cosmic temple, and following MichaelHeiser's work on seraph and nachash, he argues that the serpent is acorrupted throne guardian who belonged in that room, and that Genesis 3 isnot resting on some earlier unnarrated rebellion. It IS the account ofSatan's fall.Along the way: why Calvin dismissed the traditional reading of Isaiah 14, whythe church fathers were more divided than we remember, what Ezekiel 28 isactually comparing the king of Tyre to, and why the better motive for therebellion is not naked pride but jealousy of a new image bearer made of dustwhom God intends to raise above the angels. Which is also why the enemy'sagenda has been anti-human ever since.CHAPTERS00:00 Cold open: nobody explains the talking snake00:24 Title sequence00:35 Reality is not only what you can see04:12 But what went wrong?05:19 The fall we only half tell06:42 The trickiest question in scripture08:24 Calvin pulls the floor out10:06 Heiser, the seraphim and the nachash14:27 He belonged there16:38 Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 1421:10 Pride, jealousy and a new image bearer24:34 Sabotage, not a coup26:00 How evil came into the worldREFERENCED ALONG THE WAY- Michael Heiser on seraph, nachash and Egyptian throne guardian imagery- John Calvin on Isaiah 14:12 and the king of the Babylonians- Meredith Kline on the serpent taking serpentine form- The church fathers on pride and jealousy as motives for the fall- Scripture: Genesis 1, Genesis 2, Genesis 3, Exodus 28, Psalm 8, Isaiah 6, Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Ephesians 1:10This is a follow-on from the episode on the divine council and hierarchy,and it sets up what angels and demons actually are.Website: https://between-two-realms.pages.dev/Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@Between-Two-Realms?sub_confirmation=1#genesis3 #unseenrealm #biblicaltheology #christianpodcast #problemofevil
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