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EPISODE · Oct 4, 2025 · 1H 35M

The Fire Still Burns: Malcolm X and Our Modern Struggle

from The Dugout | a Black anarchist podcast · host The Dugout

What can Malcolm X’s journey teach us about freedom today?In this collaboration episode, host israa’ is joined with Jordan and Prince from The Dugout Podcast and Dr. Mohamed Abdou. We got together to talk about Malcolm X, his evolution over time, his commitment to the below, and the role and impact of Islam on his journey towards collective liberation. Along the way, we talk about Malcolm’s impact on our lives and our politics and share insights on how we think Malcolm would be showing up today.------------------------------------------Episode Summary01:27 Introduction and Host Introductions03:13 Personal Connections to Malcolm X06:19 Malcolm X’s Influence and Evolution10:15 Reflections on Malcolm X’s Teachings12:58 Malcolm X’s Legacy and Modern Relevance21:06 Organizational Structures and Revolutionary Responsibility30:46 Global Impact and Pan-Africanism47:44 Evolving Governance and Lessons from the Zapatistas49:34 Exploring Malcolm X’s Intersectional Analysis50:14 Malcolm X and James Baldwin: A Shared Journey52:12 Decolonization and Internationalism53:57 Contextualizing Malcolm X’s Strategies56:01 Malcolm X’s Methodology and Ethics01:00:05 Malcolm X’s Legacy and Modern Implications01:19:36 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Critique01:30:47 Final Reflections on Malcolm X’s Influence------------------------------------------Mohamed Bio:Dr. Mohamed Abdou is a Muslim anarchist scholar and organizer. He’s a student of the muqawama (the resistance) and author of Islam and Anarchism: Relationships and Resonances (Pluto Press, 2022). His work centers on Palestinian, Indigenous, Black, and people of colour liberation, and draws on the Indigenous Zapatista movement in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as his participation in the Egyptian uprisings of 2011.substack: ⁠End TimesWritings and Communiqués in the End-TimesBy Dr. Mohamed Abdou مُحَمَّد⁠website: ⁠mabdou.net⁠.Twitter: @minuetinGmajorInstagram: @slightlydrifting------------------------------------------israa’ bio:israa’ (they/them) is an activist scholar in a committed relationship with collective liberation. They are part of From the Periphery Media collective where they are hosts of The Mutual Aid Podcast, The Fire of these Times, and From the Periphery Podcast. They’re working towards building a world where all worlds fit through their activism and scholarship.israa’ is on Bluesky and IGThe Fire These Times is a podcast created by Lebanese writer and researcher Elia Ayoub and friends connecting academics, writers, artists and activists from around the world to “build the new in the shell of the old.”From The Periphery is on ⁠Patreon⁠, YouTube⁠, Instagram, and has a website⁠------------------------------------------Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠🔗 Watch Prince Shakur on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10UgHow to Support Our Work:Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠: You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join ⁠⁠⁠⁠our monthly hangouts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and more.Donations: https://fromtheperiphery.com/donate/Check out our merch: https://fromtheperiphery.com/shop/

What can Malcolm X’s journey teach us about freedom today?In this collaboration episode, host israa’ is joined with Jordan and Prince from The Dugout Podcast and Dr. Mohamed Abdou. We got together to talk about Malcolm X, his evolution over time, his commitment to the below, and the role and impact of Islam on his journey towards collective liberation. Along the way, we talk about Malcolm’s impact on our lives and our politics and share insights on how we think Malcolm would be showing up today.------------------------------------------Episode Summary01:27 Introduction and Host Introductions03:13 Personal Connections to Malcolm X06:19 Malcolm X’s Influence and Evolution10:15 Reflections on Malcolm X’s Teachings12:58 Malcolm X’s Legacy and Modern Relevance21:06 Organizational Structures and Revolutionary Responsibility30:46 Global Impact and Pan-Africanism47:44 Evolving Governance and Lessons from the Zapatistas49:34 Exploring Malcolm X’s Intersectional Analysis50:14 Malcolm X and James Baldwin: A Shared Journey52:12 Decolonization and Internationalism53:57 Contextualizing Malcolm X’s Strategies56:01 Malcolm X’s Methodology and Ethics01:00:05 Malcolm X’s Legacy and Modern Implications01:19:36 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Critique01:30:47 Final Reflections on Malcolm X’s Influence------------------------------------------Mohamed Bio:Dr. Mohamed Abdou is a Muslim anarchist scholar and organizer. He’s a student of the muqawama (the resistance) and author of Islam and Anarchism: Relationships and Resonances (Pluto Press, 2022). His work centers on Palestinian, Indigenous, Black, and people of colour liberation, and draws on the Indigenous Zapatista movement in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as his participation in the Egyptian uprisings of 2011.substack: ⁠End TimesWritings and Communiqués in the End-TimesBy Dr. Mohamed Abdou مُحَمَّد⁠website: ⁠mabdou.net⁠.Twitter: @minuetinGmajorInstagram: @slightlydrifting------------------------------------------israa’ bio:israa’ (they/them) is an activist scholar in a committed relationship with collective liberation. They are part of From the Periphery Media collective where they are hosts of The Mutual Aid Podcast, The Fire of these Times, and From the Periphery Podcast. They’re working towards building a world where all worlds fit through their activism and scholarship.israa’ is on Bluesky and IGThe Fire These Times is a podcast created by Lebanese writer and researcher Elia Ayoub and friends connecting academics, writers, artists and activists from around the world to “build the new in the shell of the old.”From The Periphery is on ⁠Patreon⁠, YouTube⁠, Instagram, and has a website⁠------------------------------------------Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠🔗 Watch Prince Shakur on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10UgHow to Support Our Work:Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠: You’ll get early access to all podcasts, exclusive audio and video episodes, an invitation to join ⁠⁠⁠⁠our monthly hangouts⁠⁠⁠⁠, and more.Donations: https://fromtheperiphery.com/donate/Check out our merch: https://fromtheperiphery.com/shop/

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