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EPISODE · Mar 6, 2026 · 30 MIN

The Firing of Kristi Noem

from Deborah Lebree's podcast · host Deborah Lebree

On Thursday, President Trump fired Kristi Noem, his secretary of homeland security, whose agency is at the center of his second-term agenda. Hamed Aleaziz, who covers the department, explains how Ms. Noem ended up losing the president’s trust.  Guest: Hamed Aleaziz, who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times. Background reading:  Bulletproof vests and Rolex watches: the rise and fall of Kristi Noem.Mr. Trump said he would replace Ms. Noem with an Oklahoma senator, Markwayne Mullin. Photo: Nicole Hester/USA Today Network, via Reuters For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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