The Foolish Optimist: Adam with the Abolish Ice Pledge

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Adam Baumel is the founder of TripleNC.org and the Abolish Ice Pledge. Follow along @abolish_ice_pledge on instagram. 00:00 Adam with Video 00:24 Welcome and Guest Intro 01:22 Why Abolish ICE 02:42 Historical Parallels 03:11 Detention Profit Machine 03:38 The Pledge Explained 04:05 Candidates and Algorithms 05:07 Beyond Online Activism 06:14 Making Abolish ICE Popular 07:33 ICE Recruitment Dangers 08:58 Project 2025 Fears 13:17 War Economy and Distraction 17:10 Immigration Courts vs Cages 19:47 Market Manipulation Claims 20:52 Peter Thiel and Surveillance 22:32 Accountability and Uprisings 23:54 Witch Trials and Puritans 25:33 Censorship and Movement Building 26:37 Sustainable Growth Repetition 27:28 Door Knocking Gold Standard 28:30 Vine TikTok Attention Spans 29:24 Abolish ICE Pledge Strategy 31:14 Turnover Accountability Recall 34:24 Gen Z Millennials Show Up 37:40 Mutual Aid Candidate Offices 38:40 Homeless Work Program Ideas 40:29 Scapegoats Zohran Storytime 45:01 Where To Find Triple NC 46:48 Rapid Fire And Hope

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Adam Baumel is the founder of TripleNC.org and the Abolish Ice Pledge. Follow along @abolish_ice_pledge on instagram. 00:00 Adam with Video00:24 Welcome and Guest Intro01:22 Why Abolish ICE02:42 Historical Parallels03:11 Detention Profit Machine03:38 The Pledge Explained04:05 Candidates and Algorithms05:07 Beyond Online Activism06:14 Making Abolish ICE Popular07:33 ICE Recruitment Dangers08:58 Project 2025 Fears13:17 War Economy and Distraction17:10 Immigration Courts vs Cages19:47 Market Manipulation Claims20:52 Peter Thiel and Surveillance22:32 Accountability and Uprisings23:54 Witch Trials and Puritans25:33 Censorship and Movement Building26:37 Sustainable Growth Repetition27:28 Door Knocking Gold Standard28:30 Vine TikTok Attention Spans29:24 Abolish ICE Pledge Strategy31:14 Turnover Accountability Recall34:24 Gen Z Millennials Show Up37:40 Mutual Aid Candidate Offices38:40 Homeless Work Program Ideas40:29 Scapegoats Zohran Storytime45:01 Where To Find Triple NC46:48 Rapid Fire And Hope

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