EPISODE · Mar 19, 2026 · 1H 1M
The Four Sacred Gifts Ep. 20 - Co-Creating with the Universe featuring Anita Sanchez & Catherine Murupaenga-Ikenn, Maori
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Indigenous activist Catherine Murupaenga-Ikenn teaches Māori wisdom, guiding listeners to co-create reality and find their place within the universe. This time on The Four Sacred Gifts, Anita and Catherine chat about: - Catherine’s early life, upbringing, and academic background in law and philosophy - Indigenous rights and Māori negotiations with the Crown in New Zealand - The Māori concept of pure potential and spiritual cosmology - The fractal nature of things, how the micro and macro reflect each other in the universe - How humans and the universe can co-create reality - The tension between science and indigenous spirituality - Expanding awareness: humanity’s role within a greater cosmic intelligence “What we've been told over many, many hundreds and thousands of years, is there are periods in the evolution of life where the darkness overwhelms but the darkness can never kill the light. I think it's talking about that energy, that potential, and as long as we can converse about that, I know that holding onto that possibility allows you to create a different reality." –Anita Sanchez About Catherine Murupaenga-Ikenn: Catherine Murupaenga-Ikenn hails from the Ngāti Kurī and Te Rarawa Māoripeoples of Aotearoa (New Zealand). She has been an Indigenous human rights activist, advocate for decolonisation, and environmental defender most of her adult life. Her credentials include a Master of Laws; official roles in both of her tribes' Treaty Claims negotiations with the New Zealand Government; two UNhuman rights Indigenous Fellowships (representing the Pacific); and as a delegate representing her Māori people at the UN Permanent Forum on IndigenousIssues.A former educator and now proud grandmother, her current focus is building climate resilience and food sovereignty in her community through an organisation to which she belongs-Climate Action Tai Tokerau. "That is the infrastructure of the universe. That is the scaffolding of reality, that we as humans are able to interact and somehow engage that scaffolding and co-create reality as we go along." –Catherine Murupaenga-Ikenn
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