Some people say the glass is half full. Some people say half empty. I just think you all need smaller glasses. I'm Tyler Fudge. I'm Travis Fudge. This is the Federation podcast. We haven't called ourselves the Federation podcast in a long time, but we're going back to what we used to do with the Federation podcast. When do we not call ourselves the Federation podcast? We'll just call ourselves the Federation. Oh, okay. At least I have always. But anyways, we're here. It is the new era. Travis is the... I changed it after that.
when we went to Scores, Boars, and Sores, I changed it to just the Federation. I took away the podcast. I even remember the Heather Gray shirt. By the way, Travis was pointed out because he's wearing a Federation sweater because he's a shill. And it says podcast on it. Yes, and it says podcast on it. But it also has our varsity sweater, right, also says podcast. Yeah. But if you look at every episode picture that we've had for probably the last three years, that's become our logo, the varsity logo, and podcast was taken out of it. I see. I see. Okay. And now it's still the same logo.
But the ring has been taken out of the bottom black part. Now we're just going to put like... I just moved the established 2014 from being on either side. Put like a birth bag behind it or something like that. Maybe poop. I love that. I love poop, man. I like poop, too. I think poop is fascinating. Fudge turns into poop. Fudge does turn into poop. We all poop. Everybody poops. Some people call poop fudge. Some people do. I just fudge myself. Some people fudge up their poops. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, like, we are... I am poop. I shit myself all the time.
Great story. Yeah, shit myself at work there a couple weeks ago. Nice. Did I tell you that? No, you didn't. No? Okay. I can't remember if I said this on SEL, but whatever. I'm assuming that's probably where you told me. Maybe I did. That sounds like a good SEL story. I mean, yeah, we always talk about it. I mean, when me and you first went on the first time, we get surprised with the question that they ask every guest. Like, when was the last time you shit yourself? Oh, I thought it was going to be the ice cream question. Oh, no. That I still don't understand. No, I was out in Forklifton.
Decided I'd let a sneaky fart through them all by myself. And I was like, oh, man, that one stinks so bad. And then I'd go over a bump. And every time I go over a bump, I just get a smell of shit. I'm like, what the fuck, man? Like, this is insane. So I was like, when I'm done, I got to go up to the bathroom. I got to look and see if I did anything, if I need to fix something, right? So I was like, well, I mean, with this fart, I should expel myself. If it smells this bad, I should just go the full mile. And so I'm looking at my underwear. I'm like, nope, everything's cool. Okay, cool. Might be a little wet inside the cheeks, but whatever. You know what I mean? Like, it didn't escape the cheeks, so you can't say shit yourself. She's got a dirty asshole. Until I get home.
I wore my laundry day underwear, and they fall down on me a lot. So I tuck my undershirt into it so it doesn't fall. And so when I took my undershirt off, I hung it up. Because I usually wear it for two days, and then I'll use a different one. And there's a little brown stain on the back of it. Good.
I was like, oh, I did shit myself. Fuck. It just didn't go through two layers. Yeah. That is that. You know, like, it is what it is. It is what it is. I haven't shot myself recently. Go ahead. And I'm assuming that the last time I shot myself was probably me just taking a fart a little too far. That's what happens, too, you know? But the last time I shot myself at work or in public would have been almost like 10 years ago now. Yeah. Probably like 2017, 2018. So, yeah. Now you should shit yourself into bleachers on mushrooms. Because that was a story you told on SEL.
Are you going to drop a bomb and say that was a lie now? Is that the exact story? I can't remember. I remember you talking about being on the bleachers and being so high. I remember the... I might have shit myself for that one. But there's another one where all my friends were trying to steal a golf cart one time. Okay. And they're walking to the country club.
And on the way there, I let out a fart. I'm like, guys, maybe I gotta go. Maybe. So I walked home with shit in my pants, probably 15 fucking minutes, 15, 15 minutes later. All the boys come back with a cart. Wouldn't that be funny? But yeah. So, but the mushroom story is fun. The mushroom story is fun. I got so fucking high that day, man. Holy fuck. It by accident. I accidentally fucking drank mushroom tea. Osmosis. Yeah. But I was at, I was at work and I was cooking and I just, it was the first time that I quit smoking cigarettes and I just,
Cleaning fucking shit man. Yeah, and all of a sudden I fart and I'm like, oof. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's shit. That is shit. I get up and I go to the bathroom and I realize that my boxers are done for. They're fucking soiled in the garbage as they go. Yeah, so I, uh, I take the bathroom garbage bag, throw my pants in there, throw it in the garbage bin and I'm like, well, may as well just go take that out to the dump right now. So.
I brought that shit out there. I think I bumped a cigarette off of someone. I'm like, well, I think that warrants a cigarette. It's one of those times where it's like, have you ever had doubt that you're quitting cigarettes? After that, you're like, oh, I'm back on the cigarette train. No. That worked. I got to finish closing without fucking pants or without boxers on. I'll just lose a goosey in there. There's going to be piss all over my pants. Thank God I was wearing all black. Ah, shit. Yeah, no, no. Have you taken any tumbles lately?
Tumbles? Yeah. It's spring. It's slippery. I mean, do I have a sling on? I mean, I guess not. So I mean, so I guess you haven't. No, I have. I have. I tumbled there the other day. Yeah. Tumbled on some ice. Mostly got hurt was my pride. There's not even anything really funny about it, but I didn't tumble as hard as the 500 kilogram.
hunk of metal that fell from space onto Kenya. Into Kenya? Yes. No doubt. Inside Kenya, space is in you. So, yeah, you've seen a photo of it, hey? Yeah, it's like a giant ring, right? Like a gear almost, it looks like. Yeah, it's almost like fucking Goliath's O-ring for his asshole fell out. So a lot of people are saying that this is space junk. There's other people that are saying that they think that it may have fallen off of another piece of...
of this thing that's actually coming back into orbit right now, I think. Okay. That belongs to the United States. But let's just read something here from BBC because it's interesting to say the least. It's 500 kilograms, 50, oh, 50 kilometers south of the east capital of Kenya, Nairobi. Yeah. No one got hurt, but they think that it was a separation ring from a launch vehicle and that it's usually designed to burn up as it reenters Earth's atmosphere or fall over unoccupied areas such as the ocean. So what I find like crazy about it is that like, I don't know, it just looks...
Otherworldly. Yeah. Well, I mean, like, it's because I found the exact. Yeah, I got it right here. I found the exact thing. Like, this is the BBC. Everything you're saying. It is an odd looking thing. And with rockets and shit like that being so, like, readily available. Well, not readily available, but, like, public knowledge for the most part. Somebody that made it would come forth and just be like, yeah, that's my shit. You know what I mean? Didn't a bunch of SpaceX launches go terribly wrong recently? This didn't take place recently, though. You know what I mean? Like, this wasn't.
Oh, yeah, this took place a while ago. Yeah, this was the beginning of the year. So what if this was part of one of the SpaceX launches that fucking messed up? I mean, maybe, but it would... I feel like we would hear more about it. Is this a piece of those mystery drones? Right? I mean, the fact that it was red hot when it fell, though.
I should tell you it came from outside the orbit, at least. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Like, the fact that it didn't disintegrate is pretty crazy. It's fucking tough. Like, what's it made out of? Well, as it says in the article, that these pieces are usually supposed to burn up as they enter the atmosphere. So the fact that it didn't is pretty questionable. Like, they made it too well. Maybe. They made it more durable than they actually intended. Like, are they using up questionable funds here by actually making things better than they're budgeted for?
Which, I mean, sounds absolutely preposterous when it's something like a space vehicle. Or it was made out of the completely wrong type of metal. Someone fucked up in a good way? Well, like, in this instance, if it was meant to burn up on its entrance, then that's not fucking up in a good way. But yeah, no, like, even, like, I'm trying to browse through and see if I can find a new article on it that gives you, like, any kind of closure, and there's nothing. Like, there's nothing. It's like everybody was talking about it a couple months ago, and then everybody stopped. Everybody was talking about it about us, because we didn't find out about it until this week. But, I mean, like, imagine if, like, in Kenya, it starts popping, like, all these fucking...
Babies. Just like coming and just fucking shit up. You know what I mean? Well, my thought... What if Kenya's full of skinwalkers now and everybody in Kenya are just actual aliens? I only heard about this because After Dark talked about it. Who hosts After Dark? Oh, Brian Alvarez. I was thinking that was the... Oh, Dragon King Carl. No... Oh, Art Bell? Yes, the Art Bell show. Yeah, so someone came forth recently and thinks that it may have been something else in space as opposed to a launch vehicle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whether that is or not, I would be foolish to dabble into that. But...
Here I say, I have a theory that, you know, maybe, maybe things fall from Earth as a way for us to be like, uh, like, um, 2001 Space Odyssey, the, the, the, the big, the monolith and the chimpanzees. It's a, it's like a, an analogy for human beings, like finding tech that they don't understand. Like Roswell, you know, like, what if this is just like some Roswell shit where it's like, we're just going to drop this down. Figure out fire optics. Oh, you're talking about if aliens dropped it as a... Like as if we were a zoo. Yeah. Like this ring is the propulsion ring for... What if it's new metal? Well, not even that, but what if it's built to be in the... How is it described? How you can propel yourself without...
force. Like you mean gravitational propulsion? Maybe gravitational propulsion. I can't remember. I've heard Neil deGrasse Tyson talk about it before where the key to fast space travel is to figure out how we can go forward without like the exhaust of something coming out to like give us that push kind of deal. You know what I mean? Yeah. I watched this very interesting video about this scientist from like the early 1920s. I can't remember his name, but he figured out this way of gravitational propulsion where he would have like
like a compass or like a magnet and he would have it in the top of the vehicle and his propulsion would be guided to the magnet so whichever direction they wanted to propulse it would move the magnet the magnet would need to move so then it would just like go in that direction but it would go at like crazy speeds okay okay yeah because it's connecting to the magnet yeah yeah and like we all know how fast magnets snap in place exactly strong ones you know what i mean like i'm trying to i'm trying to see if i can find So here's some theoretical spacecraft propulsion. Fission sail is a type of propulsion used as fission fragments to propel a large solar sail-like craft. A similar concept to the fission fragment rocket. In the fission sail rocket, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let's see. This is all way too... I'm not smart enough to even be reading this, to be totally honest with you. But either way, either way. Neither one of them look like what I've seen somebody talk about. But just imagine, though, if that's a piece.
to that type of engine. You know what I mean? The key to unlocking space travel in the future. You know what I mean? We sound like a bunch of crazy guys. Sure we do. I don't give a fuck, though. So, yeah, the guy that I'm talking about, Thomas Townsend Brown. Thomas Townsend Brown. That's the name. In the 1920s, he experimented with the high-voltage capacitors that led to the discovery of the Bifield-Brown effect, a phenomenon where asymmetric capacitors produce a propulsive force, which Brown initially believed to be related to gravity, calling electro-gravitics.
okay so very similar to what i was talking about just maybe not the magnet part but like they coalesce together providing this like extreme propulsion and whatever he was working on, which would be like this electro-gabitics, he was working on apparently, and the government shut it down, and he mysteriously died afterwards, which may or may not have happened. Who knows? Mysteriously died. There's people here talking about matter slash antimatter drive would be the most possible for energy, the most possible energy for least amount of mass. It would allow you to hurl propellant out of a rocket nozzle as close as possible to the speed of light. Look at what a magnetic propulsion system looks like.
Weird, huh? It's quite similar. Isn't that weird? Yeah. It's round and gearing. Yeah. Huh. Okay, I'll stop. I mean, who knows? Really, who knows? Here's more. A stellar wind sail. There's so many different.
I mean, they're all theories for a reason. I mean, nobody has proven anything. But that's what makes it fun. Yes, exactly. When we learn definitively what this is, what is this unknown that everyone wonders, will be the day that the phenomenon dies. Yeah. Because then we'll know. And then people will be like, well, what if they're telling us why? What if it's wrong? What if the Earth is actually flat? It's always that, because someone needs the hope of a mystery. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Because it's easier to go through life not knowing. Yeah. But wondering. Yeah. What happens when you die? Well, if we all knew that.
Well, it would be a very messy place. I feel like Christianity. Unless it was a great thing. You know what I mean? Sure. But then atheists wouldn't be happy. And then certain religions would be like, well, what about my 72 virgins? That's true. That's true. Or if everyone got 72 virgins, they'd be like, what if it came out? So like, you know, it could come out, you know, when you die, you go wherever you want. But choose wisely. You're stuck there for, I don't know, who fucking knows. That's a very Twilight Zone, like, episode there. It really could be. But no, if somebody was like, yeah, when you die, you have to go through some trials. One of those trials is you're chased by a lion.
And if you fail he will catch you and he will eat you and you will feel every bit of it because you need to feel your suffering And you need to be a pendant from your suffering, but you'll start from the beginning You just keep on getting all by a line until you can beat that out Exactly, but after that it's smooth sailing from there right because everybody even the best people have sinned Oh, man, right to the trials of Hercules. Maybe you serious like if you were told yeah So when you die, you're gonna do that and you're gonna feel everything's gonna be just like real life when you die You're gonna be so on edge and never wanting to know I mean it's like there'd be no risk-taking ever because nobody's wanna The whole thing you're mentioning is like it reminds me of being like the Greek Parthenon where you got these doors And it's like one two three and they're all in Roman numerals. Oh, yeah Like open up the door. Maybe there's a line there, right? Yeah, it's like well find a counter a lion 11 times What if I never find the right door? It's true
It's true. It just comes with, you're better off just not knowing. You know what I mean? Because if you knew that, then you could possibly go 80 years terrified that you're going to die. Christianity. That's true. Unless they know that they've been saved. Openly speaking about how they're God-fearing.
Yeah, that's some southern fucking bullshit right there. But yeah, either way. And Tyler said this is going to be a lighthearted segment. Jesus Christ. Let's start off the show with it, he says. It'll be lighthearted. It'll be space segment, he says. We're talking about the afterlife and I'm shitting on Christianity. Oh my God. This is not what the show is going to be like all the time. I know that we got really political last week and now we're getting all spacey. I had thought about when I was getting the show ready. I was like, should I trim down that political bit? You didn't, did you? No. Good. It was fine. I found a point where I was going to trim it.
Right? I found points. Yeah. I was like, okay, I'm going to trim it here. I'm going to trim it here. Delete that out. And then I looked at it, and I was like, no. I was like, no. Never mind. Don't worry about it. I'm going to keep it. No. But no, it's just interesting to hear about stuff. And I've hummed and hawed on having, because I know Travis is really into space and aliens. Like, really into space and aliens. I, myself, I've always been fascinated by it, and I don't keep up with it. So it would just be like my way of keeping up with aliens. So Travis just was just like, yeah, no, we can talk about this. I was like, that works perfectly.
Color Me Happy. Color Me Happy. Color Him Orange. But yeah, moving on from space to songs about space, we've got the latest Coheed and Cambria album, which was Vaxxas Act 3, The Father of Make Believe. You could separate Coheed into two eras, I would say. I would say two eras. You've got...
Original Coheed with the original band and that's not taking anything away from from What's his name? Zach? I think Zach's his name the bass player. Yeah Yeah, nothing taken away from him because I don't think it's him Because they just had a more progressive sound. To me, it was more angsty. It had more variation. And a lot of that has to do with youth. Yes, for sure. 100%. But I know exactly what you're talking about. Because I noticed it a lot in here. And I got good things to say about what I'm assuming your second era of Coheed is. And I'll touch upon that in a bit. I would call it the Afterman era. Because they have sounded the exact same since the Afterman era. They've lost... I would say... Okay, one. I think that they lost their vibe. Yes. Now, I hate to use that word because it's so loose. But there was something in Coheed albums where...
Yeah, I got it right here. I got it right here. So, like, Coheed Albums always told a story. Yep. Now, I found in their earlier pieces that they were telling a story in their music with the music speaking for itself. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, yep. And, like, the comic book you'd read, and...
You're not going to be like, oh, wow. You'll find little things. But then you're like, okay, this is a great companion piece. It's a great companion piece. But I think the album speaks for itself. But now, I find what Coheed is doing is that they're still telling stories. And I think that they're great storytellers. Albeit, I think maybe they're not for me anymore. I think that the older ones were totally for me. But now, it's like they're making soundtrack music. I get that. Now they're making music to go into the background of their story. And they're not telling the story.
the way that they used to with the music just like it's because like i'm pretty sure the first four albums maybe five with almost 100 certainty were albums well one two one through three albums were 100 percent written first the story came later mainly because the albums came out and the stories came out like a year or two later yeah right that's just how they did it um and and those three albums second stage and keeping secrets and good apollo are the creme de la creme of Kobe. It's their absolute opus. I would say Go to Apollo 4 is probably their opus. It's the best piece that they've ever made. It's the best album they've ever made. I would put it up as one of the best albums of the 2000s. So when you think of that album, I think that it's perfect. There's not one song on it that I would skip. And it's just such a full album. It's got everything. But now I find that what Kobe has done really good at in their new era...
is being a very full band yeah they have so much elements and i think that they've really polished their sound oh yeah now i like it when i hear coheed and it's familiar to me there is a familiar coheed that i don't like yeah that it bores me to fucking tears yeah but okay give me an example of this album of uh the familiar coheed that bores you okay um see if it's my thing someone who can yes okay so so to me one last miracle so yeah yeah no i know mary mercy Yeah. These songs are what Coheat has sounded like since Afterman. And now all these songs, they're taking up most of the album space. And I mean, okay, you're happy in life. Most of your songs are going to be about happiness. You know, because you...
your older material was very angsty because you're finding yourself, you know, like you had the stories had personal meaning. You had the trouble with Chandra and that, that turned out to be your best fucking album. The first album is all about his father's heroin addiction. And he didn't want anybody to know that his father was a heroin addict. So he made this story up around it so that nobody could ask him questions about it. And he didn't have to talk about it. That's the whole point of the story. And it starts off super personal. You go all the way to number three and it's still super personal because it's the breakup of Chandra and he destroys the whole universe. And then from that point on, the stories have to come from backwards and be prequels. That is also probably.
A bit of a dissonance. But no, Afterman, the albums, those two albums, I will still say are fantastic albums. Great pieces of work because they still have a progressive element to them. Yes, there's a very ebbs and flow to the albums, many different styles. And the Coheed boring features are very mixed in between. They're not the focus. You know what I mean? Because like first you've got Afterman, just a tremendous song put together. That's a beautiful song. And I do like Coheed when they do that. It's like the intro to this album. Yesterday's Lost?
Good. That's great. That is great. I love that. Goodbye, Sunshine is another one where it's like they lost me in the first 45 seconds. So I'm like, oh, God, it's going to be this. Goodbye, Sunshine. And then it gets a little bit better. Yeah, but that is that song, though. That song is like Old Flames. But Old Flames is just a really good version of that. Like Goodnight, Fair Lady off of the Afterman album. It's a very mid song for me on that album. See, I love that album. Sorry, I love that song. But I love that song because that was Cohe doing something new that they didn't do very often. It was like, oh, I could dig this, right? And so there's a couple of those songs on those two albums.
they've taken that sound and just had that become their almost identity now. And it's like when they do a heavier song, it's like throwing us a bone. Yeah, I do miss the Coheed where like, okay, most of our songs always sound unique and different from one another. But if we had to go for one singular sound that would be like, this is our sound, I would say it'd be like The Suffering. Like you hear The Suffering, you're like crunchy guitar, super catchy melodies. Yeah, a guitar riff that will fucking, that you're going to have in your head. And when Coheed does that on this album, it's great. And I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. They got like three to four songs on here that I do quite enjoy.
Outside of the ones that we previously mentioned. Because it's a rather long album. Unlike any other album since, what, Good Apollo 4, No World for Tomorrow. They've got a... They've got a... The trio. The saga. Yeah, they've got a saga at the end. Which usually you could be like, hey, okay, so every time they've done this, I have dug shit. When you see this, you expect something very progressive. Yeah, yeah. And then I hear the first one, which was, what was it called? Welcome to Forever Mr. Nobody. I was like, oh, okay, it starts off, you know.
I was like, here it is. Okay, cool. Now let's, let's do what Coheed does, uh, which thinking back on it now, they really haven't done since what I'd say go to Apollo and that's be like proggy. you know what i mean like other than like after man yeah yeah like they've gotten away from like odd time signatures and just doing shit to sound weird like right like the shit like that um i was like okay like where when are you gonna pick up and it just never does that song just goes the same tone and tune the whole way through yeah yeah i do think that i do like welcome to forever miss nobody in a way that like it's not bad um it's well layered it's got distortion tasty guitar licks i like claudio's like voice production on it i think that it's done well um and Can I talk about The Flood? Oh, yeah. I mean, The Flood is where it was hammered into me that, oh, like, to me, like, I have almost a little bit of a different take than you where you're just like, I mean, it's background to a story where it's like, yeah, no, like, this is so story-driven now. Yeah. Where the music suffers because this song fucking sucks. Right? Verbatim. These are, Claudio is achieving 18-year-old girl lyric vibes here. This might be Destroy Boys. These are lyrics verbatim. I don't fit in. You should be afraid of me.
I'm sorry, what? You're like 45 years old. Yeah. Like, I don't know if you, because, okay, so like now in, like just to be devil's advocate to say in his defense, the cover of this album is a little girl. Maybe that's her. So he's writing songs in the portrayal of Eleven. She does look like Eleven. She does. But like, I know nothing about this story. No, neither do I. I think Vax is supposed to be his son.
Well, I mean, his son's name's Atlas. Vax is Atlas. I think the whole thing is like, now it's like a child in like Claudio's shoes in the old book, right? It's like maybe like the new, because what was he called in the Amory Wars? Claudio? No, no, like his position. Oh, fuck.
I can't remember now, but there's like, like a, like not all father, but like there's like something, something along kinds of like the, the next chosen one, the chosen one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's Paul Atreides from doom. Exactly. So like, but like that, that kind of deal, you know what I mean? And maybe this is the new one for, you know, the new version of that for the, the, the key work. Yeah. No, I can see that for sure. And.
At six and a half minutes, man, this song was just too fucking long. It was the worst in this quadrilogy. To me, it's the worst song on the album, honestly. Yeah, it's one of them. Lyrically, like, I think Claudio... So, okay, we got one song earlier that we talked about that we didn't like. That would have been... Sorry, I'm just trying to find... Mary Mercy. Now, when I'm listening to this song, I write down, Claudio writes like Eddie Vedder nowadays.
Yeah. And in that way, it's like I speak in riddles, but I always talk about how much I love you and I miss you and I wish I did better. And that is what Claudio writes on every fucking song that's got this vibe to it. Right. And when it goes to like the flood, I'm like, oh, my God, he's now he's writing like a little like he's writing like an angsty teen. But like also like he speaks in riddles all the fucking time. And like, like.
I like bands that do that because, like, Chris Cornell, one of my favorite vocalists, one of my favorite lyricists, always smoking riddles. I don't fucking know what half the fucking songs that Chris Cornell wrote was about. No, yeah. Spoon man. But I love that. It's like Eddie Vedder, yellow lead better. It has no meaning. There is no meaning to it. Have you seen a video online where it's just like...
Lyric a lyric video for y'all live better, and it's just like a bunch of baloney. Oh, dude I don't believe for any nobody any better can come in and show me the original lyric notes for that song and I would say I think they've admitted that it has no words like there's just a melody that he's going along with right? But that is what's good about Eddie and like when I listen to Eddie's voice is amazing when I listen to Eddie now like Pearl Jam isn't It doesn't light my fucking world on fire. No, but they'll have that one or two songs that are just like, yeah, no, that's really good. Yeah, totally. On that new album, that Dark Matter song. Really good. Really good. Really good. The Fixer album. The Fixer is a great... Backspace. Backspace, yes. The Fixer is amazing. I think that song is delicious. It's one of their best. That song is what got me as bad as I say. That song got me into Pearl Jam. Yeah. Because I was never a big Pearl Jam fan outside of Last Kiss. You fucking grew up during Pearl Jams very... Yeah, yeah.
experimental things. Yes, they weren't in the zeitgeist when I was growing up. If 10 vs. Vitology Pearl Jam came out when you were growing up, yeah, they'd be fucking huge. But they were going through, like they just did the Ticketmaster thing. Nobody would touch them. I like their music a lot and I think that's some of their best.
Challenging music comes from that era yeah, but it took me up until being like 27 or 28 that really realize that you know like I am mine like present tense who you are Would you like like fuck I was just humming in my head as we were talking Why go that's on the first time the first time yeah, yeah, I thought that was on the yield or whatever no no why go is that it's like the second song on the album actually then what song am I thinking of that? I was like when it comes to yield they got them do the evolution on yield maybe a brain of JFK I know Do the Evolution's a very catchy song, but it's a... Do the Evolution. Faithful's good, but it's very... Oh, Given the Flies on Yield? That's a huge song. I do think Do the Evolution is probably the one that I was thinking of. Given the Fly is amazing live. It's a very good song. I will say, like, that is definitely a concert that I'd want to go see. Like, the next time they come...
To this neck of the woods. I really do want to go see Pearl Jam live. Because I think that's like Alice in Chains. I don't care if Lane Staley is dead. I want to see Alice in Chains live. As someone that loves grunge, I saw Pearl Jam twice. And the last time I saw them in 2013 was amazing. 2013 was the last time you saw Pearl Jam? That's the last time they came to Alberta, yeah. Really? Yeah, 2013. Wow. Vancouver they've come to a couple times. But yeah, it's been a long time. Man, that was an amazing show. But Mudhoney opened up for them both times. It's awesome to see fucking Mudhoney. But Alice in Chains with Duval, I've seen them three times.
And the last time I saw them was the best time I saw them. I need this. They've got such a good live sound. They are more on that full. They are such a full sounding band. Just a great band. Man, everybody is just so good live. The bassist, Mike Yanez is awesome. Sean's great. Everybody is so tight. Duval. He's so good. He's such a great vocalist. He's got pipes, man. And Jerry Cantrell is kind of like...
From videos I've seen live has gotten better. I've never had an issue with Jerry singing. No, but I mean, just like he's gotten better live singing than he used to be. And like, usually when it comes to older dudes, you get, you know, you start, you go down. Well, I think he found his voice and he doesn't really go out of a range. Yeah. But for his dude that's playing guitar like that, he does sing very well. And I think a lot of, Lane once said that Jerry's got no soul. Yes. Yes. Lane did say Jerry's got no soul. I get that. Yeah. Yeah. But, well, I mean, but that's, nobody, nobody has, when you, if you're going to compare.
Like somebody in the same band as Lane Staley. If you're going to compare any other singer to Lane Staley. Like if you look at Lane Staley strung out on fucking heroin during the MTV Unplugged. I know he's not on it. No, I guess he was actually. Was he on it? So I was listening to Disgraceland, which is my favorite music podcast. It's really good. It's amazing. So they did an episode on Alice in Chains and they're talking about Unplugged. And he had one score of heroin.
and it made them have to rehearse and redo songs all day long because he was fucked because he was fucked yeah so when i like think back to like sludge factory when he butchers the song and he fucks up and then they gotta redo it and all of a sudden it's like whoa chills down my spine this is amazing like what the fuck happened here now like i think that that was spliced together and i think that there was many more split tries but the fucking camera magic right oh yeah yeah they added that together and it was just like wow yeah wow yeah but like you look at lane singing he looks so sick but like not even not even just but it was effortless effortless this guy is you can tell he's not in the best of health but yet he's belting out these notes with no top teeth probably haven't eaten in three days wearing like three layers of clothing yeah and just not even moving just move just singing just like whatever jobs moving there's no you can't see him breathe nothing this guy it was effortless for this dude yeah and and and just look at you got no souls like well yeah compared to you of course i got no fucking soul you know what yeah yes lane does not have much soul to his voice 100 jerry yeah yeah sorry jerry yes for sure and i've always found to be a melody man you know like he
He's very much... Him and Lane, I thought, were very Lennon and McCartney-esque, where without both together, there's something missing. It's almost like Jerry was just the perfect compliment to Lane's voice. And the back and forth on... Oh, my God, dude. No, it's not Rooster. Oh, my... What's the big hit they had where they're just going back and forth? Man in a box? No, no, no. It's like the verse of it. Oh, my God, dude.
No excuses? No, this is the issue with weed, see? Is it wood? Is it wood? Because Jerry starts... Is he broken by my master? Back and forth? Yeah, yeah. Between Lane and... Fuck, thank God we got this. We've got the melody. Look at that. Yeah, exactly. So, like, that part. And that shit, they're so good and they complement each other so well. Sorry. No, I agree. No, I agree. No, hey, you got it. You got it pretty fast, actually.
I was about to bring it up on Spotify. I was like, it's the Uber hit. I fucking put it up. It's a big song. Yeah, but it's a great song. Fantastic song. Yeah, I love it. So how about favorite songs on the album, Father Make Believe? Well, so let me, before I go into this, and this is something that I know is a sentiment that you'll agree on because I believe that we have spoken about this before. The selling of the album with songs that make you excited.
and make you think, oh, this isn't going to be like a throwback to old Coheed album. They always do that. It's something I'm sick of. Yeah. Because Blindside Sonny is one of the best songs they've come out with in the last 10 years. A long time. It blew me away when I first heard it. So good. So good. This is Coheed? Yeah. Yeah. Like, Claudio can still do that. Yeah. Right? They haven't done that since Good Apollo 4. Yeah. The first one. You know what I mean? From Fear Through the Eyes of Madness. That song, awesome. So good. I'm...
it bleeds into it like Play the Poet after Blindside Sonny. And it's like, oh, it's a continuation of Blindside Sonny, just not as good. Well, what I liked is like, at first I'm like, okay, so it's industrial coheed. Interesting. And then all of a sudden they go into this like new metal-ish song. And I'm like, okay, but this is different. Like it's different. Kudos for trying. Me too. These are like, Blindside Sonny is my favorite. Play the Poets number three. Searching for Tomorrow. That's my number two. This is a total example. That riff.
oh it's amazing it's absolutely amazing but like that's Coheed that like you think of because like when I see that riff in my head I picture them live and I see Claudio doing that weird like spread legs fucking dance like jumping around and it's like that's that feel and that's old Coheed feel and shit like that right and it just sucks the two albums on it that have just like the old Coheed feel and it's the two albums there's two songs they released At the very start. Yeah, yeah. Like, Bonet Sides Island came out a year ago. I hate it when they throw all their eggs out before the album's ready. You know, like, if they...
I miss when a rollout didn't have, like, four fucking songs released, and you've heard a quarter of the album already. Yeah. You get a good gauge of what the album's going to be like. Two's enough for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. Two is, like, back when I was a kid, Limp Bizkit came out with My Way and Roland at the same time. Like, that's unheard of. You didn't hear of anybody doing that. You know what I mean? And the album hadn't come out yet. Did you know that, like... There's only two fucking videos for the album because the rest of the album's garbage. Well, I like a couple songs on there. Did you know that the Roland video had, they were...
they were filmed shooting on top of the World Trade Center. No, I didn't know that. And this took place in, like, September 2001. Oh, really? Like, the video released. Oh. And, like, I think it was one of the most expensive music videos to make. And they, like, won a video award of, like, the best music video for it. And I think that they won that video award on, like, September 8th. Oh, really? Yeah, like. Oh, Jesus Christ. Isn't that fucking crazy? It was all Fred Durst's fault. And then the video probably got scrapped from ever being seen very often. Roland video? Like, after September 11th? I don't know. I feel like Roland, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like, yeah, I feel like Roland was still.
But I can't, it's hard to say. I don't know. I really don't know. I can't go back. It's because you didn't hear. I was only seven, so I'm only. You didn't see, I can't remember the timeline of Roland. But like any music video as like once like six months is up, you don't really see that music video anymore. No, no. And especially at night, you might. I think with us too, like watching wrestling, you just heard that song so often that you couldn't escape it, right? No, no. And the music video spliced in with Undertaker's thing. So it's like, am I thinking of that when I think of? Yeah, hard to tell. Yeah, hard to tell. Especially with young mine, you know. But like to think of something else like.
I don't know. You know, what's something that I came actually into realization is I feel like there's one or two or three songs on this album that I feel were written for a prize fighter. And I kind of thought about play the poet. Maybe I'm wrong there, but you mean like the very slow song? No, like, like, let me see. Let me find a comer. My confidence. Okay. Okay. The very acoustic sentiment. That's a very, very prize fighter song. Okay.
Yesterday's Lost, I'd say, is probably a prizefire song. But that's the two that really jump out to mind. For sure. But when it comes to the last song that I thought was good, I'll say while I think the song was good and it made me smile when I was listening to it, I doubt that it's a song that's going to stick any year from now. I bet you I'll never listen to that song again. And that's the last of the continuum. And that's that real hippie 60. So it goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one I thought was, oh, this, I think this is cool. I did like how upbeat it was. It didn't really do much for me, but it kept me interested.
But, yeah, like the Menacing Orchestra, the ending of it was good. And a little fun fact here. Kurt Vonnegut's novel, Slaughterhouse-Five, the narrator in the book, every time that he says, so it goes, it means that someone died. Oh, really? So, I don't know. That's probably what that means. Yeah. I mean, like, Claudio is such a nerd for literary sense that I'm sure that so it goes is somebody died there. Yeah, yeah. Every time he talks about someone, he's like, yeah, Burt passed away.
Lung cancer. So it goes. So it goes. Yeah. Now, the vinyl edition of this album has an exclusive track. Oh, does it? It's called The Omnivoice. Have you listened to it? It's 23 minutes long. Oh, well, maybe this is the proggy coheed? Maybe we should listen to it. But, like, to me, I listened to this whole album, and it's like... It's like an hour long. Yeah, there's an hour of this album, and I'm like, I liked 15 to 20 minutes of it. I'm not searching out.
the 23 minute song that's not good enough to be on the album it's on the vinyl release yeah no you know there's bands for me there's artists that I listen to their new material and I'm like craving for more I'm craving it man like this new pop album like it took me a long time which is funny because It took me a long time. Which is the one that's like, let it sink in. It's okay. It took me a while to get into Hallways. I still don't like that song. Which is funny because I said that and it's funny because the beginning of the songs, it took me a while to find out the meaning, what you're really thinking. You never say what you're really thinking. It's so whining. Oh, I fucking love it now. I love it. I don't. I don't. I would put that as an example of New Pup that I don't enjoy. Is that those songs? I love it. I love it. But that, Paranoid.
The new Jeff Rosenstock song, I love. And Jeff does a little bit at the end of Versus. Okay. So at the very end of Versus, he'll have, like, a little phrase, including one is, ah, lyrics. Like I said to Travis, I was like, that popping Jeff Rosenstock song is pretty good, but, like, will Jeff just play guitar or something? I'm sure he is. But, like, if you listen back, like, you'll spot him pretty easily, I think. But, yeah, like, I'm looking forward to that. July's a hell of a month, man. You got South Park. You got this. Fucking.
I guess the Kendrick Lamar South Park thing isn't coming out until next year now, but that was going to come out July 4th. I was really stoked on that. Oh, really? So it's not coming out now? Not until next year. Okay. Yeah, but South Park's coming out around the same time that it was supposed to, so I'm wondering if that was ready and they, yeah, I don't know. Could have something to do with the lawsuits and everything. True. The Kendrick Lamar one might be on, for example, Paramount Plus or HBO when the season is on Paramount Plus and Paramount's just like, hey man, you fucked us over so many times. Yeah, because it's supposed to come out on Paramount. Yeah, so it's just like, don't put it out now. It's called Whitney Springs.
That's the new season? No, the movie with South Park and Kendrick Lamar. But another thing's coming out in July. It's July 11th. It's Tony Hawk's Roll Skater 3 and 4. That's true. That's true. The brilliance to announce that on March 3rd is 3 and 4. It's really good. When they teased March 4th, there was going to be an announcement.
It didn't take long for people to put together. It was very quick. Oh, that's for three and four. That and some fucking, I can't remember, some skater. Oh, he leaked it a while ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like one of the OGs on the game, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know exactly who you're talking about. I didn't realize that that's who it was, though.
But yeah, we knew it was coming. But now we finally got the whole soundtrack, which is released. They released four waves. And at the beginning, a lot of people noticed that it wasn't a verbatim release. And it upset a lot of people to the point where Tony Hawk had to go on Instagram and say, quote unquote, it was my choice to pick some different songs by the same artist featured in THPS 3 plus 4. Adding...
I'm hoping that Discovery is half the fun and a big reason that these soundtracks resonated in the first place. So listen and enjoy the rap. 100%. And that's so true because like, honestly, I think that you would agree that both of our music tastes are shaped by Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. Totally. And that absolutely is like fundamental music to me that I'll never forget. And it totally created this tree of how I, like with me right now, man, I like punk. I like rap. I like metal. Like I like every fucking thing. Throw in a little bit of Frank Sinatra. I fucking love it. You got all of that. Yeah, exactly. On Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. And yeah, that's clearly where that shit came from. And to me, it's like, it's the best soundtrack.
And it's always the best curation these soundtracks came in for. Like, they were like, when it feels like a piece of media is made specifically for you, it's a great feeling, right? Yeah, when everything that plays through resonates with you, it's like, oh yeah, no, this, I'm, like, they had me in mind. Like, it validated me so much. This is Dark Mirror right now. Black Mirror. Black Mirror, Dark Mirror. It validated me so much when in 2020, they released 20 Hawk's Pro Skater 1 and 2, and they put Fiddler's West Coast on it. I was like, well, I love Fiddler. I love Tony Hawk. This is like a match made in heaven to me. For me, Kenny Hoopla.
Well, Kenny Hoopla was on that. No, he's on this one. I was about to say. Yeah, so Kenny Hoopla, he's got one of his best songs on this soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah, Hollywood sucks. And a couple other great ones here. Like, they got Alice in Chains and Them Bones. Yeah. Which, dude, I used to listen to that. ATV Off-Road Fury. Yeah. We would all, like, me and Chad Rice would play ATV Off-Road Fury and would just, every time that song would end, we would just restart it over again. Right? I think that was on there, too. I think that was the other one that we used to always listen to, too. Remember, they got Ace of Spades, which is from Tony Hawk's Postgres 3, I think it was. Yeah. CKY, 96. Which is another original from 3. And, dude.
The greatest guitar riff of all time. I don't give a fuck what everybody says. Yankee and the Brave run the jewels. I thought that you were going to be pretty excited to see that. Waves? I'm very excited to see Waves. The King of the Beach is a great song and Turnstile's real thing is such a perfect song put on there. It is a perfect song put on there. And like Jeff Rosenstock's Head, that's a great catchy song. While Hell Mode is not my favorite Jeff Rosenstock song, Head is a good song. Yeah, Hell Mode is one of his more weaker albums for sure. But yeah, Head's great. And I mean, they got Kendrick. I love Kendrick. So I'm very excited to see that. But then you got returns like Amoeba by Adolescents. Yeah, that's another return too. Like Ace of Spades.
Oh, fuck me. There's so many. There's 40 songs. My Adidas run DMC. Yeah, and I know one song that people are pretty upset at not seeing is The Number of the Beast by Iron Maiden, but they switch it over and they do Two Minutes at Midnight instead, which is one of those choices I think is better because Two Minutes at Midnight is a much better song than The Number of the Beast. I mean, who hasn't heard The Number of the Beast by Iron Maiden? Right, it's the most famous one. Yeah. I'm very...
I highly recommend for you to check out Fontaine's DC. Fontaine's, which one's Fontaine's DC? Fontaine's DC. Oh, that's that first song on there. Boys in the Better Land. I listened to that today. Dude, it's so good. I listened to that today. I think Fontaine's DC, they're one of the few rock bands that got nominated for a rock album of the year. But like, they are a great fucking band, dude. Like, straight up like British, like, talk rock type thing is what I like to call it. Oh yeah, like fucking like, like idols. Don't fight a man with a perm. Grill cream, creatine, on a bag of charlice. Like, over time. I love idols. Over time, I have grown to really like idols.
I'll leave it at that. Cool. To the point where there's a band called Coffin that I got into. Coffin is so much like Idols. Yeah, they're just a little bit more heavy. There's a couple songs on Wave 3 I think you'll love. It'd be in Alien Ant Farm's Wish, Papa Roach's Infest, Sum 41 Summer. So Wave 3, when did that come out? There's four waves. So I'm looking at the Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 Plus 4 official soundtrack right here, and it's not there.
It's not. No, they got 40 songs. So I figured that was all that. I figured like there's four waves, 10 songs per wave. No, those are two waves. That's two waves. Yeah. So I have no idea. Okay. So it's coming up. Wave four is like, to me, I think the theme is skateboarding. So it's like songs that are about skateboarding. Okay. It goes all over. There's like Jefferson Starships there and everything like that. Okay. So we got Red Man's Let's Get Dirty. Okay. The Prodigy Breathe. Okay. Dead Sarah Weatherman. These are really new songs. Linkin Park's The Emptiness Machine. Hey, you know what though? It's not bad. Dude. Dude. This incarnation with that girl? Yeah.
I like it. You like your rocker, like more Scientology-like? I've learned more about her. She left Scientology. Yeah. She was born into Scientology. But anyways, anyways, I kind of, like I'm not a big Linkin Park fan at all. Yeah. I find Linkin Park is too nerdy for me. I kind of like it more. Yeah. With her? The fan base for Linkin Park kills me. A little too edgy for me. Way too fucking edgelordy. Yeah. But when I think of Linkin Park fan bases, I think it's...
Cyrax. Okay, sure. One hand in hand. Bernard's worth doing the bullshit. Another new song is Eminem's Houdini. Okay, I fucking hate that song. Okay, fair enough. Oh, that's not what I was thinking of. There's another one that's very repetitive. The Godzilla one.
The song you did for the Godzilla soundtrack. Oh, okay. I have no idea. It's fucking... It's like... Okay. This one's okay. It reminds me of Without Me. Okay. No, Houdini. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know which one you're telling me. Yeah, it's not bad. Sublime's What I Got. Okay. Whatever. I mean, I'd rather hear 8,000 other songs in that song. Sublime fits for skateboarding music, though. If they were to do a live version with the new singer, I'd be down because... They could have chosen much better Sublime songs. Yeah. But What I Got is, like, their biggest hit. Yeah. So, I get it. And Tony Hawk seems like a What I Got guy. Like, I guess. I mean, from LA, I'm sure. Or being from California, I'm sure the Sublime is...
Everyone, and their fucking, and their dog knows the line. You know what's wild, though? With his son married to Kurt Cobain's daughter? It's like crazy that there's no Nirvana. Oh, you mean Riley Hawk? Like, you mean Tony Hawk's son? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no Nirvana on this at all, I bet.
I mean, that'd be kind of weird, though, wouldn't it? If you took, like, fucking territorial pissings? Yeah, but I feel like Francis Bean Cobain would, like, divorce him if she did that. It just seems like a Cobain thing to do. It's like you're playing my dad's music on your father's game. You disgust me, you piece of shit. She gifted one of her boyfriends one of his guitars once. Oh, I don't know. I find Kurt Cobain very pretentious, and, you know, albeit his music aside, I felt like his daughter would probably be the same thing. But who am I to judge? I shouldn't be judging.
Falling in Reverse, Zombified, which was Soraya's theme song in AEW. That's fair. There's another song, too, from Betsy Maria Yankovskaya. It's called Sigma Boy. I don't know. That sounds familiar to me. I have no idea. There's a song called Jurassic Five. Do you know them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, back for you. Him, Join Me in Death. I hate him. Yeah, me too. Zebrahead, check. Oh, my God. Zebrahead? Yeah. Zebrahead? Yeah. Like, oh, my God. I remember, okay, I went through a little phase of Zebrahead.
Yeah, they're okay. They're okay. But, like, I went back to try to listen. Outside of, like, one or two songs. And they did Maria's theme song in WWE. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here she comes again, good medicine. A song that was on Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 that did not get unchanged is NWA's Express Yourself. Nice. I love that song. Absolutely love that song. That's one of the only Dr. Dre songs.
on any NWA album. Yeah. Whereas him rapping. It's like one of their most timeless songs, too, because it's not... He uses that timeless beat. Yeah. Yeah. Another timeless song that's on this album is, or on the soundtrack, is Lady Gaga's Judas. Okay. Okay. Catchy Lels' My Marmalade. Public Enemies Rebel Without a Pause, which I think was on the other one. Is there two Public Enemy songs? Is there another Public Enemy song? I thought there was. Maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe I'm mistaken. I could be. Goldfingers. I'm thinking of Run DMC. Ah, yeah, my Adidas. Goldfinger, Vintage Queen. Okay. Goldfinger, Back on Tony Hawk. Yeah. Cypress Hill's Insane in the Brain. Okay. Awesome. That was in Four or something, wasn't it? Might have been, yeah.
Some 41 Summer, banger. They used to, Fat Lip was on before, I believe. Maybe, maybe. I can't remember, honestly. I know it's not on Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4 because I've been playing it, but 3 it might be on. Pop Roach's Zimfest and Alien Air Farm's Wish, which I know was on 3, but I'm not too sure about Pop Roach's Zimfest. Wish is such a good song. It's a good song. They have Blood Brothers on 2. Yes, they did, yeah. Let me see, let's go take a look at these.
these actual bad boys. So, oh god damn, why are you so hard to find? Here we go. So that's where Meeba, The Boy Destroyed the World, 965, Better Things. Let's see, Ace of Spades, Motorhead. It seems like Wave 1 and 2 was 3. Soundtracked, songs that would be on 3. Yeah. And in the vibe of 3. Except for Zebrahead Check is there. Oh, Zebrahead Check's on there. Yeah, yeah. But let's see here, what other ones we got here? 4. AC, DC, TNT. Distillers. Yeah, so Seneca Falls didn't make it.
So there's a Goldfinger song with that same Goldfinger song. The number of beasts aren't maiden. Express yourself. Well, like, the additions of, like, Kitty to it as well is like, okay, cool. Yeah. I remember getting a hard-on to Kitty when I was a kid. Fuck. Oh, Christ. But yeah, no, it's...
I get excited for the soundtrack for these Tony Hawk games all the time. And Wave 4, Tyler, has Jefferson Starship Skateboard. Oh, yeah, you haven't even finished it yet. Jefferson Starship Skateboard. Old Skulls Skate or Die. Rad Boys Skateboard Blues. Melanie, Brand New Key, which is an awesome song. It was on Jackass One. Okay. I've got a brand new... Was...
Have they used Pew Pew Pew's mid-20 skateboarder yet? No. No? Oh, fuck, dude. They need to. They should, yeah. Aquabats, my skateboard, which was Travis Barker's first band. Bruno Mars, skate. What? Interesting. Theodore Shapiro, skateboard delivery. Dire Straits, skate away. Holy fuck. Skateboard P, freedom. Little Baby Bum, skateboard song.
These last two, Tyler. Daffy Duck's Skateboard Honeymoon. No way. And Onyx Slam. Slam! Jump on it! Jump on it! Slam! Jump on it! I can't wait to be riding rails with that song. Slam! Jump on it! Or Daffy Duck's Skateboard Honeymoon. Dude, like, I'm, so, while I was very excited for, uh, one and two, those were two songs that I was very familiar with. Right?
Or two songs, two games, two games. Three and four, though, I'm not all that familiar with it. And this comes with two brand new levels. Does it really? And when they were doing the Switch Direct yesterday, they did a bit of three, four footage. And someone spotted that there's like a Bikini Bottom token that you have to collect. Oh, really? So everyone's wondering if there's like a minigame or a hidden level in one of the new levels where you go to Bikini Bottom in SpongeBob SquarePants. Okay. Which just sounds fun to me. It could be very interesting. Right? One thing I noticed, they got Jeff Roadstock in the Wave.
Two or whatever the fuck was. It's not his first time on Tony Hawk game. Oh, because he's on Tony Hawk's first hitter 1 and 2 HD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pegasus XL. Pegasus XL. Miracle Mansion or something. I gotta go to Nitro Speed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marathon Mansion. Dude, it's such a catchy song. I was so into that song and then when I put 2 and 2 together that Jeff Rosenstock and that band the same, I was like, oh, I can hear it now. Yeah. Right? Like, I can hear him in this song. That's a great song. Yeah. Timeless. Yeah, because that's him doing... No, it's not him doing I'm Driving in Nitro Speed. Yeah. It is? Yeah, it's him singing. Yeah, for sure. But that's the whole thing, though.
No, because there's two singers. The other guy that sounds like Zacky LaRocca does the versus, and then he does the chorus. Who doesn't want Jeff Rose to talk to do their chorus? I mean, he's a jingle guy. He is a jingle guy. Cricket Creek. Theme song for a kid's show, man. The guy is catchy as fuck. The...
well what's the name of the album uh dance or worry that is a 10 out of 10 album the best albums of 2010 yeah it's it's an amazing album and it's so catchy and the dude right there just just listening to that album like oh yeah this guy's talented um i wish i wish he could redo it Well, you know, all of his albums up until that point were kind of on that wave. The one before that where it's like the Polaroid of the house with the white back. That one is very, very similar to Worry. The next one after Worry was kind of similar too. But that's when like...
I don't know, you know, like once Trump got into office, Jeff made that album because USA is all about the night that Trump got elected. Like, please be honest. Tell me it wasn't you. I won't hate you. I just need to know. It's all about him being there with one of his buddies being like, did you fucking vote for him? Like, I won't hate you, but like, you gotta fucking tell me if you did this. And like, you know, like after that, like I find that, um, no dream was okay.
But what's happening now with Jeff's album is that they're not back-to-back amazing, but they got, like, one really catchy song on there, right? Like, Liked You Better was super catchy when it came out. And I was like, the rest of the album's like this. Oh, yeah, and it's not. But, like, Worry, from the moment you turned on Worry to the moment it ended was amazing. Yeah, like, Wave Goodnight to Me is an amazing song. Hellhole, fucking Pash Rash. Yeah, very good. To Be a Ghost is a great song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did something weird last night. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Here it is. Here it is. Let's see. I'm trying to think of it. While You're Alive is absolutely fucking amazing.
I think that's the song where I've seen this video on the internet where it's like this guy in a Mountain Dew costume. This guy gets really high on like mushrooms or something and he's dancing and spending time with his Mountain Dew can to this song, right? While you're alive. It's so fucking good. There's nothing on this song that is weird. So, okay, you look at all the plays, right? Every song is above a million. Some towards seven, right? Until you get the Planet Luxury, it's 15,000. What? So obviously people could not get past Side A.
Well, like, yeah, that and it's 30 seconds long. Oh, so a lot of people just avoided it. That's fair. That's funny, though. It's like outrageous plays. Yeah. That one. Yeah. You know, this album doesn't play like there's 17 songs. It doesn't feel like it. No, no, it doesn't. But then from song 10 to song 15, it only elapsed one, two, three, four, five, six, seven minutes. Yeah. I mean, very short, like one minute, one 30, 29, one 45, one Oh three, one 58. Sure. While your lives only a minute, 55, 53 seconds long.
Right? But they're fucking fantastic fucking songs, though. Yeah, Front to Back, it's a great album. Yeah. Love it. Yeah, agreed. Agreed. But yeah, I think we did, while we did plan to possibly touch on Split Fiction, I think maybe we should just bookend it there.
And maybe we'll touch on split fiction once we've got more than five hours in. Yeah, we should get some more play in. Yeah, we'll get some more play in and then we'll talk about it. See, I told you we'll be talking about Koi for a long time. Wait, did we just promise something for the next episode? I guess we did. Holy shit, it's been a while since we've actually on air said what we're going to do next. Yeah, yeah. We're going to call ourselves a podcast again and we're acting like a podcast. And you know what? You had mentioned that you would really like to talk about Severance. And I haven't finished season one and by the time we do another episode, I'm going to have season two done. Yeah, so maybe I'll start watching Severance. We're both watching the studio.
Oh yeah, we were going to possibly talk about the studio. Did you watch episode three? I did, I did. Once again, that show finds a way to make me feel awkward in all the fucking wrong ways. He's doing a really good job at playing that role as the movie executive. As the chicken shit movie executive. Like man, I know that we both had our moments that we talked about briefly in text, but like when he finds out that Scorsese has a script about Jonestown, he's trying to get that Kool-Aid movie. And he's like, are you saying that this movie could be loosely based about Kool-Aid? He's like, let's do a Jonestown movie. I got one choice. I got one thing to say. Sure.
called the movie Kool-Aid and then Bryan Cranston finds out about it and he's fucking not having this artsy bullshit we want a straightforward Kool-Aid movie and then at the fucking Charlize Theron's party when he goes up to him and tells him that he's keeping the script, but he's not making the movie, and he makes Scorsese cry, and Steve Buscemi, who's going to play Jim Jones, shows up at the party, and he's like, did you hear this is going to be Scorsese's last movie? Something else, huh? Great to be a part of it. Hey, Martin, Martin, Martin's over there. Hey, why are you crying, Martin? Hey, what's wrong? Oh my God, man, it fucking got me. I was just thinking, man, I'm craving some new Seth Rogen, and this comes out, and I was like, fucking wow, he is, great job. Then you get the episode where they're on set, and they do such a fantastic job at just making, I feel, secondhand embarrassment for Sal.
for having to be there with him. Yeah. Right? And having to deal with just how aloof this man is. Start off the whole suit thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. Just everything about it is just like secondhand embarrassment to the max. It did great at making me feel exactly the way Sal feels and the way everybody else feels that it's just dealing with Seth Rogen being this fucking neurotic. Yes, yes. It's like Mark Merritt could have done this role very well, too. Oh, yeah. Right? Like, that's the type of actor that this is really required for. But Seth Rogen is great in it. Oh, yeah. He is so good. So good. And the...
Like, I love the intro cards. Oh, yeah, very old Hollywood. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Actually, very Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Yeah, yeah. Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, for sure. Which is also going towards that, like, 60s pulp type, you know, Hollywood movie. So, yeah. So, it makes sense. Makes sense. And just like, it's basically a movie about how stupid Hollywood is. That's what it is. There's a TV show about it. So, the only way you can do that is streaming, because Hollywood ain't going to want you fucking doing it. No, no.
But yeah, no, that is this week in the Federation, and we'll be back when we're back. That probably definitely won't be next week, because I doubt I'll be able to get all of Severance finished in five, six days. Well, this took less time than how it was going before. I mean, yeah, we're talking about things that I'm actively ingesting. You know what I mean? Not like purposely having to go out of my way. I don't have to go out of my way to watch like two and a half hours of wrestling every time we have to record. It saves me some time. Yeah, write notes about it. This is just how I genuinely feel. You know? Yeah, yeah, my notes.
My notes are very short this week. My notes were essentially links for fucking the space ring and something else I can't remember. I found out that I couldn't get on the internet because I was looking for the space ring. Yeah. And now, like, when we were talking about it, when we started talking about it, I'm like, oh, shit, that was why. I was trying to get that tab up. Couldn't get it. I had to find one on my phone. Man. Oh. Watching Travis panic on air. Whatever. I didn't even notice it. So, but keep on rocking the free world and doodaloo doodaloo doodaloo.