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EPISODE · Apr 26, 2026 · 1H 19M

The Fundamentalism Problem: How Apostolic Churches Decide Who’s Really Saved - EP133

from Grace Escape · host Justin and Tiffany

What is fundamentalism?  And does it describe Apostolic Pentecostalism? In this episode, we define the term clearly, as we walk through how it has shifted from protecting core doctrine to building systems that draw hard lines around who is “in” and who is “out.” We connect the dots between fundamentalism and legalism, showing how one creates the environment for the other to thrive. Along the way, we ask honest questions about Oneness Pentecostalism and whether its structure reflects this modern definition. Most importantly, we point back to the gospel and remind you that your standing with God is built on Christ alone, not a system.For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. - Romans 10:3-4 ESVLast Week: The Legalism Lie: How Churches Reject the Label but Keep the System - EP132Playlists:Full Podcast Playlist⁠ - YoutubeHoliness StandardsThe Church BuildingExamining PentecostalismThe “MOG” (Man of God)All About The MoneyAbuse In The PulpitAddressing NAYC CommentsFEAR!!! FEAR!!! FEAR!!!Music’s “Play” In It AllGrace, Grace, God’s GraceShow Links:Spiritual Gag Orders: How Abusive Leaders Keep You Quiet - EP84Unforgivable Sin?! | Fear, Blasphemy & Questioning the ‘Truth’ - EP105Nathaniel Urshan - “hyper-fundamentalist”Kenneth Carpenter - “I’m a radical fundamentalist”Adam Shaw - “consecration is protection”Nathan Holmes - “talking heads on a TV”Nathaniel Urshan - “attacking the apostolic message”Nathan Holmes - “Jesus name only!”David K Bernard - “we have spirit AND Word”Nathaniel Urshan - “superimposing extra-biblical narratives”Doug Klinedinst - “it’s real, it’s real, I promise”Tim Ritchey - “A238 plan of salvation”Nathaniel Urshan - “they are enemies”Tony Spell - “this is fundamentalism!”Wade Bass - “the devil will laugh in your face”Jonathan Shoemake - “it’s ok to be different”Resources:DivideTheWord.blogResponsible Faith - YouTubeSpiritualabuse.orgB.I.T.E. Model ⁠Website B.I.T.E. Model ⁠Free PDFBook: Toxic FaithBook: The Subtle Power of Spiritual AbuseBooks: Pagan Christianity? Exploring the Roots of Our Church PracticesBook: Christianity without the Cross: A History of Salvation in Oneness PentecostalismBook: Free: From Legalism to GraceConnect with us!📱Leave a voicemail or text us! (484) 424-7223⁠⁠📨 Send us an email! [email protected]💻 http://graceescapepod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠InstagramDISCLAIMER :This podcast is for educational and commentary purposes only. The views expressed in this podcast are based on personal opinions, theological analysis, and publicly available information. Our intent is to critique doctrines, teachings, and practices within fundamentalist church systems from a biblical perspective. We do not make accusations of illegal activity, nor do we intend to defame any individual or organization. Viewers are encouraged to research and form their own conclusions.Fair Use Notice: This video may contain copyrighted material used under the Fair Use Doctrine (17 U.S.C. § 107) for purposes such as criticism, commentary, education, and news reporting. All footage used falls within fair use guidelines and is presented with added context and analysis. If you are a rights holder and believe your material has been used unfairly, please contact us before taking any action.

What is fundamentalism?  And does it describe Apostolic Pentecostalism? In this episode, we define the term clearly, as we walk through how it has shifted from protecting core doctrine to building systems that draw hard lines around who is “in” and who is “out.” We connect the dots between fundamentalism and legalism, showing how one creates the environment for the other to thrive. Along the way, we ask honest questions about Oneness Pentecostalism and whether its structure reflects this modern definition. Most importantly, we point back to the gospel and remind you that your standing with God is built on Christ alone, not a system.For, being ignorant of the righteousness of God, and seeking to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes. - Romans 10:3-4 ESVLast Week: The Legalism Lie: How Churches Reject the Label but Keep the System - EP132Playlists:Full Podcast Playlist⁠ - YoutubeHoliness StandardsThe Church BuildingExamining PentecostalismThe “MOG” (Man of God)All About The MoneyAbuse In The PulpitAddressing NAYC CommentsFEAR!!! FEAR!!! FEAR!!!Music’s “Play” In It AllGrace, Grace, God’s GraceShow Links:Spiritual Gag Orders: How Abusive Leaders Keep You Quiet - EP84Unforgivable Sin?! | Fear, Blasphemy & Questioning the ‘Truth’ - EP105Nathaniel Urshan - “hyper-fundamentalist”Kenneth Carpenter - “I’m a radical fundamentalist”Adam Shaw - “consecration is protection”Nathan Holmes - “talking heads on a TV”Nathaniel Urshan - “attacking the apostolic message”Nathan Holmes - “Jesus name only!”David K Bernard - “we have spirit AND Word”Nathaniel Urshan - “superimposing extra-biblical narratives”Doug Klinedinst - “it’s real, it’s real, I promise”Tim Ritchey - “A238 plan of salvation”Nathaniel Urshan - “they are enemies”Tony Spell - “this is fundamentalism!”Wade Bass - “the devil will laugh in your face”Jonathan Shoemake - “it’s ok to be different”Resources:DivideTheWord.blogResponsible Faith - YouTubeSpiritualabuse.orgB.I.T.E. Model ⁠Website B.I.T.E. Model ⁠Free PDFBook: Toxic FaithBook: The Subtle Power of Spiritual AbuseBooks: Pagan Christianity? Exploring the Roots of Our Church PracticesBook: Christianity without the Cross: A History of Salvation in Oneness PentecostalismBook: Free: From Legalism to GraceConnect with us!📱Leave a voicemail or text us! (484) 424-7223⁠⁠📨 Send us an email! [email protected]💻 http://graceescapepod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠InstagramDISCLAIMER :This podcast is for educational and commentary purposes only. The views expressed in this podcast are based on personal opinions, theological analysis, and publicly available information. Our intent is to critique doctrines, teachings, and practices within fundamentalist church systems from a biblical perspective. We do not make accusations of illegal activity, nor do we intend to defame any individual or organization. Viewers are encouraged to research and form their own conclusions.Fair Use Notice: This video may contain copyrighted material used under the Fair Use Doctrine (17 U.S.C. § 107) for purposes such as criticism, commentary, education, and news reporting. All footage used falls within fair use guidelines and is presented with added context and analysis. If you are a rights holder and believe your material has been used unfairly, please contact us before taking any action.

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