The Future of B2B Buying Experiences and the Role of AI in GTM with Jaleh Rezaei

#248 Marketing Strategy | Dave sits down with Jaleh Rezaei, founder and CEO of Mutiny, the personalization platform for B2B websites. Jaleh brings a unique blend of founder perspective and deep marketing expertise from her time building go-to-market teams at VMware, Gusto, and now Mutiny. She’s on a mission to help marketers ditch the spammy, scaled playbooks of the past and refocus on what really drives pipeline today: buyer experience. Dave and Jaleh cover:Why the current use of AI is making marketing worse and how to use it to build better buying experiences insteadWhat marketers get wrong about speed (hint: it’s not about doing more, it’s about doing what matters)The principles of simplifying your go-to-market strategy to cut through noise and align your team around real revenue resultsMarketing is changing fast, but the teams who win will be the ones who prioritize real buyer experiences, move with speed, and stay aligned on what actually drives revenue. Jaleh breaks down how to make that shift before your strategy gets left behind.Timestamps(00:00) - – Intro (01:10) - – Why AI Is Backfiring in B2B (03:45) - – Outbound Is Broken (Here’s the Data) (06:05) - – What Buyers Actually Want (08:30) - – Gimmicks Don’t Scale (10:00) - – How to Build Marketing That Lasts (11:25) - – Why Marketing Is Harder Today (13:00) - – AI Efficiency vs. Buyer Experience (14:30) - – The Right Way to Prioritize Speed (16:15) - – Strategy First, Then Speed (18:05) - – How to Test Big Ideas Fast (20:20) - – Borrowing the YC Mindset (22:00) - – What Good Brand Marketing Looks Like (24:15) - – Best Brand Play: A Children’s Book? (26:00) - – What CEOs Really Want From Marketing (27:40) - – Simplifying Your Marketing Strategy (30:10) - – The Truth About Sales-Marketing Alignment (32:00) - – Common Execution Gaps That Hurt Revenue Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.Webflow - A website platform built for the agentic web, letting modern marketing teams build fully custom sites that perform in AI search with no developer needed. Learn more at webflow.com/for/exitfive.Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.Compound Growth Marketing - A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive. ***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more