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EPISODE · Feb 13, 2025 · 54 MIN

The Future of Web Dev: Are We Overcomplicating Everything?

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This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey (07:42) - ORMs and Prisma (11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle? (14:41) - React and modern web development (21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools (27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder? (35:18) - Ember vs Rails (39:22) - Home security and automation (44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked (46:13) - Movies and going to the theater (47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash (50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment? Links Hatozaki: https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/ Jim Gaffigan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/ Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/ Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ React: https://react.dev/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/ Fakerjs: https://fakerjs.dev/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ Vercel: https://vercel.com/ Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/ Epic Web: https://www.epicweb.dev/ HTMX: https://htmx.org/ DHH: https://x.com/dhh/ Supabase: https://supabase.com/ Figma: https://www.figma.com/ LaunchDarkly: https://launchdarkly.com/ Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/ Embroider: https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider Webpack: https://webpack.js.org/ Vite: https://vite.dev/ Broccoli: https://broccoli.build/ Rollup: https://rollupjs.org/ Parcel: https://parceljs.org/ Glimmer: https://glimmerjs.com/ RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/ Laravel: https://laravel.com/ Flipper Zero: https://flipperzero.one/ Tamagotchi: https://tamagotchi-official.com/ Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/ Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/ Bun: https://bun.sh/ Z-Wave: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave Wicked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film) The Greatest Showman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman The Wizard of Oz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz Gladiator II: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II Moana 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2 Frozen 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2 The Snow Queen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/ Chick-fil-A: https://www.chick-fil-a.com/ Connect with Chuck and Robbie Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

This week, Chuck and Robbie talk about the neverending evolution of web dev tools and frameworks. Over a Hatozaki Japanese whiskey, they dive into ORMs, the pros and cons of Prisma, Drizzle, and AstroDB, and how modern dev tools shape the ecosystem. Plus, a detour into home automation security, the real cost of DoorDash, and why Gen Z might just be bringing malls back. In this episode: (00:00) - Intro (01:13) - Whiskey tasting and review: Hatozaki Japanese Whiskey (07:42) - ORMs and Prisma (11:09) - Impressions of Drizzle? (14:41) - React and modern web development (21:41) - AI and the future of dev tools (27:33) - Is the rapid pace of change making web dev harder? (35:18) - Ember vs Rails (39:22) - Home security and automation (44:23) - Chuck’s thoughts on Wicked (46:13) - Movies and going to the theater (47:51) - Inflation and DoorDash (50:17) - Will a convenience-centered lifestyle lead to mass unemployment? Links Hatozaki: https://akashisakebrewery.com/brands/hatozaki/ Jim Gaffigan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Gaffigan Prisma: https://www.prisma.io/ Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/ Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/ Ember: https://emberjs.com/ React: https://react.dev/ Astro: https://astro.build/ Drizzle: https://orm.drizzle.team/ Fakerjs: https://fakerjs.dev/ Next.js: https://nextjs.org/ Vercel: https://vercel.com/ Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/ Epic Web: https://www.epicweb.dev/ HTMX: https://htmx.org/ DHH: https://x.com/dhh/ Supabase: https://supabase.com/ Figma: https://www.figma.com/ LaunchDarkly: https://launchdarkly.com/ Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/ Embroider: https://github.com/embroider-build/embroider Webpack: https://webpack.js.org/ Vite: https://vite.dev/ Broccoli: https://broccoli.build/ Rollup: https://rollupjs.org/ Parcel: https://parceljs.org/ Glimmer: https://glimmerjs.com/ RedwoodJS: https://redwoodjs.com/ Laravel: https://laravel.com/ Flipper Zero: https://flipperzero.one/ Tamagotchi: https://tamagotchi-official.com/ Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/ Machine Learning in JavaScript, Remix Plus Netlify, and Why DX Engineers Matter with Charlie Gerard: https://whiskey.fm/machine-learning-in-javascript-remix-plus-netlify-and-why-dx-engineers-matter-with-charlie-gerard/ Bun: https://bun.sh/ Z-Wave: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Wave Wicked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicked_(2024_film) The Greatest Showman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Showman The Wizard of Oz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wizard_of_Oz Gladiator II: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gladiator_II Moana 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana_2 Frozen 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_2 The Snow Queen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snow_Queen DoorDash: https://www.doordash.com/ Chick-fil-A: https://www.chick-fil-a.com/ Connect with Chuck and Robbie Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd Subscribe and stay in touch Website: https://whiskey.fm Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/whiskey-web-and-whatnot/id1552776603 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19jiuHAqzeKnkleQUpZxDf Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot Whiskey Web and Whatnot Merch Enjoying the podcast and want us to make more? Help support us by picking up some of our fresh merch at https://whiskey.fund.

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