The Gateway Podcast _ John Kozik _ The Devil_s Game_ Exploring the Truth About Ouija

The Gateway Podcast – John Kozik – The Devil's Game? Exploring the Truth About Ouija Date: June 2, 2026 Episode: 132 Discussion: The Devil's Game? Exploring the Truth About Ouija About John Kozik: John Kozik’s obsession with collecting and researching Ouija began when he inherited his grandmother’s board in the late 1990’s. He was surprised to discover that Ouija was simply one specific brand of Talking Board, and that they date much further back than the Ouija of Parker Brothers fame. Through years of dedication John is now one of the most knowledgeable people on the subject. In 2013 he became a founding member of the Talking Board Historical Society, a group that researches and preserves the history of Talking Boards. Fast forward to 2019 - John opened the doors of The Salem Witch Board Museum to the public. It is the only museum dedicated to the history and lore of the Talking Board, boasting the largest collection of boards, obscure memorabilia, and ephemera under one roof. In May of 2024 he realized one roof was not big enough for Ouija’s rich history, so he opened a second location, Witch Board Museum Baltimore. Whether you believe it’s the tool of the Devil or just an innocent kid’s game, a visit to the museums will allow you to learn more about this fascinating and iconic piece of Americana. 🌐 https://www.salemwitchboardmuseum.com/ Host: CL Thomas C.L. Thomas travels widely every year as a fine arts photographer and writer exploring various afterlife research, OBEs, metaphysics, folklore, and lectures at events. C.L. does "Spirit" art on request. She is the author of the haunting memoir "Dancing with Demons" and the acclaimed historical-fiction novel “Speaking to Shadows”. C.L. is the creator and host of The Gateway Podcast & Small Town Tales Podcast. She has written many articles and maintains a blog on legends, folklore magic, and paranormal stories. Currently, she resides in Las Vegas, Nevada with her beloved Golden Retriever and Maine Coon cat. 🌐 www.clthomas.org Follow CL on social media: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cl.thomas.428549/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/author_cl_thomas/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@clthomas