Hello and welcome to the gifted life podcast where we have conversations about Oregon, Tissue, and I Donation, and Marie Steele. I'm Sally Junterrey. And I'm Bo Crater. Oh, no.
Oh, it's Bob. Hey. Back again. Back again.
Good to see you. Well, you did such a good job last time. We invited him back, right? I know.
You must really enjoy it. Hey, Joe. We appreciate you filling some big shoes here. Bo is our advanced practice coordinator here at LOCA, which means he helps to maximize the gifts of our donors.
So we appreciate you taking the time out to help us in the community as well here on the gifted life podcast. You're an old hat at this now, right? I'm getting used to it, but I do have a much bigger respect for you guys. I'll make this look a lot easier than it really is.
Okay. Any reviews, Sally? I don't know what to say, except I know that talking with some of our donor families, they really like Bo. Oh, I think that's a big plus.
It is a big plus. We appreciate you being here. And this is a great episode that you will be a part of. It's going to be fantastic.
You may have seen a little Saint Stan around on social media on some of the national networks. Darius Robertson. He's on the transplant waiting list. And guess what, guys?
He's here in the gifted life podcast Studio. Oh, wow. He's going to talk to us today. Yeah.
So we have a podcast, we have a coach who has such a passion for our donation that he's increasing the Louisiana registry one person at a time. So you're going to want to stay tuned to hear about that. And in the second part of our series on addiction, we're going to talk about how the impact of communicating with children and others around you can make a difference in understanding how addictions happen and what we can do to hopefully stop some of this. And we'll honor a hero as we do in every gifted life podcast.
We always say to Bo, it only takes one person to make a difference. One person doing something they don't normally do, right? So one of the things that you can do is help spread the word about this gifted life podcast, because as you told us, easy to find. It's very easy to find.
You can see what I did on iTunes. There's also Google Play are all the popular apps for downloading podcasts. And also another big one is actually on our website at lopa.org podcast. Easy to find.
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Why don't you sing for us and see if it works? I don't know. He's saying no. He's saying no.
You can hear it. We have a 54648, 3477. That's the hotline. Be a part of making a difference.
Lots to get to. You guys ready? Absolutely. Absolutely.
All right, guys, we have a special guest in studio. We're going to have to work on him to get out of his shell, don't you think? Yeah, he's very, very quiet here. Not another quiet.
Be recognized, that is Jerry. Jerry is a lot of shit. That's it. I'm a super fan, Jerry is.
There you go. You've seen about National Headlines, social media, darling. Just a cute thing and maybe future musician. We don't know.
So he's doing it in studio. We also have Dad, Jordy. Hey. How you doing?
Good. Do you get a lot of words in? Oh, yes. Sometimes.
We love him. You got to work on that personality, right? He's pretty strong. He does it all by himself.
He's been making the headlines because you are a saint, super fan. I like don't dance in my end zone. That's a thing now, right? Right.
I like that you made it a thing. Were you nervous out there on the sidelines? I'm not nervous because you're wearing my own doll and you don't dance in my end zone. Ooh.
I'm all right on. I love it. So watching the saints, sometimes we have some highs, sometimes we have some lows, but you're always back. Right.
Yeah. So I saw when the saints signed you to a contract. I was pretty excited for you. You seem like no nerves at all, like nerves of steel.
Well, I was a fun. So I was a nervous. That was a pretty great opportunity. I saw Dad smiling, my goodness.
One of the other things that we learned was that you were on that transplant waiting list, right? That's that. Got that. So you want to tell us a little bit about that?
What are you waiting for? A new liver. A new liver. Yes.
He had a liver transplant back in 04. And 04 because he had billy area, Trisha? Yeah, he was diagnosed with billy area, Trisha is a chronic liver disease that requires another transplant. So Dr.
Serrano is on the phone with us from Ashner Hospital. I'm wondering if you could kind of give us a little information on what is billy area, Trisha? Thank you. Billy area, Trisha, you say, congenital disease that progresses into cirrhosis and liver failure and is the first cause of liver transplant in pediatric patients.
This is different from adults because most of these kids will have their transplant during childhood. But about half of the liver transplants that are done in this country and around the world are done for patients with billy area, Trisha. But that implies that the patient is missing the duct and the plumbing if you would say between the liver and your intestines that allows the flow of vial into the intestines. And when that happens, there's an inflammatory process that progresses into cirrhosis and therefore causes liver failure in the patient.
Wow. Now I know that you're part of Jerry's care team at Ochsner Hospital for Children. What I love is that he answered the phone and you immediately knew that it was Jerry's. Well, I've been very fortunate to work with him.
I've been working with Jerry's now for maybe about 15 months when he got transferred to us at Ochsner Hospital for Children so that we could follow in his care. And he really has been a great patient. He's an example to all of us on how to make something as difficult as what he faces and to live every day to the fullest and he really a positive influence for everyone. So I've just been very lucky to be able to be one of his doctors.
Except for when I'm not eating. I do that from time to time. So dad is kind of deceiving for all of us because we see this huge personality in this teen over here. But he is waiting on a transplant, which means he's pretty sick.
So walk us through what life is like and what he's battling. All right, throughout life, you know what Jerry is. I mean, it's all knowing that his situation requires a transplant and we never know what day is coming or how it's coming. On the bright side of it, just being in the presence of him and being around him makes you feel good.
And he just makes you smile. Makes you smile. There's no quitting him. Dr.
Serrano, Beau and I were talking before. Can we talk about the waiting list now? We know that Jerry is his on that wait list. There's always a chance to provide the care for every patient that needs an organ transplant, not only liver, but only other organs that are able to be transplanted.
And so being in this waiting list is waiting for the best liver possible for our patients, which is kind of what Jerry is waiting for. The best match that we can find so that his outcome is the best possible. But this requires all of us to be aware that if we are all donors, then the availability of organs will improve for patients like Darius that need organs to be donated to them to change their life and to save their life. You know, what we all advocate for is to increase our awareness to all become donors so that we can have an impact on someone else's life in such an incredible and important way.
The way that the organs are allocated based on how critical the patient is and how sick they are, serious, although he looks fantastic. And like, he's that said, we never know what the day is going to bring and that includes all of us that take care of him. So we're all hoping that a great match will come for him soon. And that's why he's that and there is so hard raising awareness on being a donor so that we are able to change more patient's lives through this procedure that is life-based.
I heard that Ashner is number one for liver transplants in the country. Did you talk a little bit about that? Yes, we are. So our liver transplant program is the number one in the country as far as volume, meaning the number of transplants that are done a year and as far as outcomes and it has been like that for the last few years.
So we have consistently done more transplants than any other liver transplant center in the country. Within those transplants, we do some pediatric patients and those for the patients that I'm making care of and that's how I ended up getting to know Darius. So we have a great program. We have a team of seven, soon to be eight wonderful transplant surgeons.
We have heptologists, social workers, nurses, care coordinators, dieticians, pharmacists that all work together in making these outcomes a reality for all of the patients. Right. So we know that your story is making us laugh right now, Dr. Sarana.
What he doesn't know is that it's both second podcast, so challenging him, which is good. But you've been helping us spread the word about the need for folks to learn and make an educated decision about donations. So let's talk about some of the celebrities and some of the cool opportunities you've had over the past couple of months, years. So did you meet Drew Brees?
Do you have his digits? Can you tell him I said hi? No I can. Negative.
I got the nigh, y'all. So I know you met Robin Roberts, I saw you. Do you not? And you've interviewed on national TV.
Who else did you meet? Any other players? Everybody. Oh, scum.
Who's your favorite Saints player? Who shares a name with you? You're getting denied, too. They'll so bad.
Dad, let's talk about it. Takes lives to save lives. Where did that come from? And then he's had his wonderful opportunities.
How was that helping in your cause? We met with Dr. Bruce, one of the trans players. And we had a meeting with him.
And throughout that meeting, we didn't get the great results that we were looking for, but we did get the results that they're going to fight with us today. And they gave us faith to keep on pushing. So when we got back to the room, me and Jerry's, we come up with the idea about what can we do besides waiting on the hospital for children to receive a little transplant. So basically we came together and we come up with it takes a lot of the save lives.
We thought about it like this is the only way he's going to live. We get to cover everybody who's fighting for a transplant. We be all kidding in a level. I transplant any kind of organ transplant you need.
If you lose your life, your life still go on because you're able to live on in another person's life. My goodness. I want to tell you, when you were on Good Morning America, you were with Robin Roberts, you got signed to the contract. People were sending you that story that have never talked to me about organ donation.
They said, did you see this cool kid on TV? He needed to transplant. So people who have never talked about it did because you guys stepped out. And you know, that's the whole point about it is we need to get out and reach everybody.
Yeah. I mean, people don't realize until it hits day home. Yeah. And he takes one person to make a difference and look what he's able to do.
One person in touch the whole world in just a matter of ways. And he did. My phone was just ding, ding, ding, ding. I was like, what is this?
Jerry's, what's on my head, buddy? I don't know. I didn't do that. Bo, Jerry says it.
No, not to touch my hair. Oh. My hair's a thing, man. What do you think about it?
It's all right. A lot of hairs for him, huh? Yeah. Yeah.
All right. So what do you think about donation? Do you know a little bit about it? What do you think?
Can you talk to that microphone right there? Oh, he knows. Hold on, Dr. Serrano.
If we can get a liver, boom. Bam. What? Dr.
Serrano, you deal with this a lot with his little personality? Well, you know, sometimes I have some leverage. If you can meet, then you can't beat. So I have no way.
That's what you're doing. I'm fine. Got you, I'm working for you and I see you. Oh, dear.
Okay. So we always talk about this transplant journey. You guys have been at it for years. So how has that impacted your family?
We're able to deal with it. We're still learning it. But every day is up to noon. And it's not just coming from what we're picking up off of him.
It's what we're getting from social media. What we're getting from the news, what we're getting from people in general, saying we're doing a good job. I have people that reach out from all over the world. What can we do to help?
What's his blood type? How do we see if he's a match? And that really touches our family and makes us stronger because now we know that it's just not staying local. It's worldwide right now.
If a person can write on a call, my daddy needs a kidney transplant and get it. Why can't we buy him out social media in the news, go out and say my kids or every other kid need a liver transplant and we can get it just that easy. I think it's a super dance move or the fact that he can hold a highlighter on his upper lip as he's doing right now. Dr.
Rauchman, do you want people to know about donation from your perspective from your side? In general, not only for care, but for all of our patients, the more availability we have, the better chances we have to have good matches for the kids because it's not only about blood type. As far as liver, the size also has a role, the age of the patient. All of these things, and like Mr.
Robertson was saying, it's leading a legacy after you pass on in changing someone's life. It's such an important way. I really just advocate for everyone to become a donor. We have a leading donor program for our liver patients and for our kidney patients.
And that's another possibility that implies, of course, a bigger commitment and a bigger evaluation. But I think that the standard should be that we're all donors after we pass on so that we can be a legacy for each patient. Yeah, that was beautiful. I agree.
We have Alvin in the studio. How was your new in the hour? I'm doing great. Jerry, how about you?
Hey, how about mission you and Alvin in the gym? You need to come out with a new one. We have a firecracker in the studio. Me and my brothers are having fun because we got to enjoy the little things.
Jerry, can you do me a favor? Can you say your tagline? It takes lives to save lives? It takes lives to save lives!
And any movie that will ever get there, come get me! I want to play a double kick. Jerry, I want to jump off the top. I want to jump off the top.
I want to jump off the top. I want to jump off my arm. I want to work on that personality for this kid. He's got to come out of his shell.
No! Move! We appreciate you, Dr. Serrano with Oxygen, her hospital for children.
Jorney, that's the same name as one of our local life savers. We already like you. You're doing a great job with this guy. You know, more people in one appearance than most of us can do at certain events.
you guys spreading that work. And I tell everybody, if we can help save you, if you have any event going on, I'll be here right along with Lopra and anybody else who wanna tag along, we can be one big old team. I tell everybody, if you're out there and you haven't donated, please go out and donate. Find me, find Lopra Fine, I can find somebody that can help save somebody life.
And that's why it takes a lot to save life. So please donate. Yeah, and I wanna thank the Biggie's and Matthew Club from the Saints. They'll help me win them down.
And they gave me the school coin to keep on me. And they give you the gifted life podcast on it. Who that Jerry is out, please. And that's all that needs to be said, Dr.
Serrano. So we enjoy visiting with Dr. Serrano with Jerry is his dead. Just a little firecracker on.
We'll be here all day people. Sorry, no we won't. That is funny, I love it. And we'll be following Jerry's story, but we hope that you make an educated decision about donation after hearing this story.
Thank you. You heard it here. Okay guys, Jerry is Robertson. Woo, he was all in, huh?
Talk about it. He was funny. So from Jerry's to another firecracker, we have coach Chris Swallow of Walker Freshman High School fame, hey coach. How you doing today?
Good, hey guys, watch out for coach. She's quick, gotta watch it. All right. Yeah.
So here's how you guys talk about coaching. Yeah. So you want to talk about coaching, you can talk about coaching, it's how you want to work it. Okay.
Good, good. Okay. So you're talking about coaching, or loving coaching. You can go back into the gym, you can bring it back into the gym, or you can bring it back into the gym.
You're having a great time. Yeah. And he's like, oh man, I'll tell you things for you. What is he going for?
Yeah he's like, I'm not going for it. after semester which is right. So we have the opportunity to be in front of 100 plus students each time that we go which is incredible. But these are students that are about to get their permits or their licenses and so we want them to make an educated decision.
But what we've learned is that a lot of your students are touched by donation in some way, shape, or form and they come to you after our visit to have those important conversations. Oh they do. All of them are mom or dad. How many people I do not know.
No one runs around with a teacher. Do you have a heart to? Yes I do. Most of them are friends but they didn't go around.
That's a wonderful compliment. Yeah. A lot of big praises right there. Yeah.
Coach. Well and then you know if you're under the age of 18 in Louisiana you need your parents permission to sign up. And so we impress upon them. Go home.
Talk about it. Talk about what this loud blonde lady came in talking to you about today. Right? Coach?
That's what they all leave with. I mean love about coaches that it doesn't stay in the classroom so we know that it goes home because we get those forms back and then he joins us out in the community. Well so I do have a question for you. I understand you had a name contest to identify your mascot and how did you do that?
Yeah. Heart mascot that we use at some of our events and we needed a name coach and so we go to our marketing genius in the Walker area. And what happened? Well, what I told me about the content.
I love content. I'm very competitive by nature. And I get to say it is not going to be a hard way. And she told me about what the mascot we probably looked like.
I kept thinking well Nate could be his last name. That's right. Yeah. Pretty good.
We asked our Loba team. What do you think? And that's the name they picked. Oh pretty good right?
Oh that's a genius coach. Oh we love that. And he is so great. We have a poster contest that we do each year.
And it's trying to get those students involved in the donation process. What do you take away? Put it on a poster that we can take out in the community. And you've had some good ones come out of Walker freshman.
Hi, I made our calendar that we put out once a year as well. Right? What are you proud of? I think I'm a workman.
You're proud. And I get a chance to show this in those. But there's a lot of little jingles and marketing schemes that people can use. And coach works with our LSU marketing students as well because as you can see, he's an idea guy.
So him and I get along really great. And then we need folks to execute our plans. But let me tell you, when it comes to the poster contest, like coaches really hands on. So works with those students and go and pick up that poster, delivers it.
Just make sure that it's done with that student. We had a ceremony in your classroom when one of your students made the poster contest. And you said she took a lot from that. Right?
Exactly. I don't get a lot of recognition. You know, some beauty pageant or whatever. But that's a good moment.
And you help to make that happen, coach. And we appreciate it. What we're trying to show is that it takes only one person to make a difference. So this teacher said, hey, my students need to learn about this, make an educated decision.
I'm going to help get them the information that they need. And then he also joins us out in the community, which is amazing. So coach, when it comes to donation, what do you kind of tell your students? What's the thing you leave them with before they go home and talk to their parents?
Well, you guys, a lot of time you tell kids to be quiet. Once in a while parents listen to get you. I know my students. I said, no, dad, you got that wrong.
I tell the kids, just get all your facts for you. They have any questions about how to call the experts. Well, I'll get it for you. And once the kids get all the information, a lot of people don't do things.
But the four or five years, sit back and go, you know something? Why? There you go. Well, you are a great partner in the classroom.
You're a great teacher. And if you ever decide to retire, I'm going to be sad over here in local land. So we appreciate your coach. We did that application out.
How much did you pay? You're a good teacher. Well, I think after teaching, he may open his own marketing firm. Do you hear that though?
Probably say, right? So I got an idea, man. All right. Coach Chris Swallow with Walker Freshman High School.
We appreciate partnership. Thanks for having me. In our family support segment today, we are continuing our conversation about addictions. That's right.
Last episode, we talked about what addiction is. So on this podcast, we're going to look at what we can do to educate ourselves about addiction. Sally, do you have any pearls of wisdom for us? Well, I'm not sure I have pearls of wisdom.
However, I do have some, I think, good information for our listeners. You know, if you're listening in, you just heard Coach Swallow talk about getting your facts and then you communicate, but getting facts first. I think that's what's really important because if you are a parent or a friend of someone who you think may be using drugs as some sort, you need to talk to them. You need to find out what's going on, find out the facts and share it with them.
I think when you're talking with your children too, I know some of the information we have talks about children from the age of 9 and up, but I really think in our day, in this society, the way that, you know, drugs are kind of thrown about in a very casual manner when people are talking about them. I think that you can start even younger than that when kids start asking questions and to not address it with facts and with good information also that you can access. I think people just have a tendency to go, well, you know, it's something that somebody else does. I don't go through it.
My family isn't going through it. But, you know, if you don't talk about it, you don't know for sure what might be happening. I think, too, some of the things that we do is we either discriminate or we tag somebody with a stereotype. Well, you know, if they want to quit, they really could or maybe they're just using because they think it's the thing to do or they're hooked on a drug because somebody else told them to do it.
There's just things like this that you don't want that slide when you're talking with people. Just say, wait a minute. Are you there? Have you seen this?
Do you know what this person is going through? And most of the time we don't. Most of the time we just take it face value. Oh, you might say, well, I just saw Kirsten and I think she was using something.
Well, rather than going, you know what, let's get to the bottom of this. Let's talk about the facts of the situation. And most of the time people just don't do that. And I know, too, that when people are in recovery or they're trying to get help, the last thing they need is the negatives coming from somebody.
Well, that's not going to work. It didn't work for you before. It's not going to work for you again. Well, you know, some of that self-fulfilling prophecy goes to work, well, you know, you might be right.
Maybe it won't. So we need to be supportive and not be quick rushing to judgment about somebody that's having problems. And you know, things can reverse the opioid effect. But I think, you know, just from that clinical standpoint again, that's correct.
Actually, you can get trained to administer naloxone or Narcan as it's called on people that have an opioid overdose. So anybody that's taking any prescription medications that's an opioid, such as your lower tabs, your oxycodone, or even somebody that you know might be on an IV illegal medication, it's still safe to have to treat them for an overdose. It's a good skill to have. In case you'd ever come across someone that would need this life-saving drug to reverse that medication.
And also, sometimes you come across the issue with pain medication that's been not used inside your house. And some people don't know what to do with it. And it can be a hazard to either elderly or young children. And here in the state of Louisiana, there's drop boxes that will actually take this medication and you can drop it safely and effectively.
And what you do is you just call and get the location of the drop box because they moved in periodically. Is that anonymous? It is anonymous. It's an anonymous drop-off and it's moved periodically for safe.
I say. Okay. And if a box is unavailable, you can use like a de terra pouch, which is a drug deactivation system. And it renders basically the medication useless.
Well, you know, sometimes too, we have people that ask. So, if somebody abuses drugs, can they become a donor? Is that a possibility? Absolutely.
Just because a person uses drugs does not rule them out for being an organ donor, we do a lot of testing to check for disease processes. And we do check all the organ function to make sure that every gift is as safe as possible. Well, I think that's really some good information because many times our families will say, I'm surprised my loved one was able to be a donor because they know that their loved one had engaged in certain activities with drug usage. And so, when they do talk about that, it's helpful so they can share that information with their friends or with other family members.
If y'all would like some additional information about the signs of addiction, how to help someone with addiction, helping to find a way to end the heroin epidemic, or to find help and treatment for a substance use disorder, you can find more information at lopa.org under Family Services and we have a resource section that will have all these listings for you. Yeah, it has all that and more. And maybe you heard something that you want us to talk about or you have another topic that you want Sally to tackle, info at lopa.org. At this partner podcast, we'd like to honor our hero as we do in every podcast.
And today's hero is Jason Moody. Yes, and we learned about Jason from mom. She tells us May 18th, 2006, started out like any other day, but it ended with Jason being transported to a local hospital following a tragic event. Mom says, while in the hospital, she remembers seeing the words, organ donation in her mind and the most peaceful feeling came over her.
She tells us at 2.54 p.m. May 29th, 2006. Jason was pronounced brain dead. He ended up saving four people through organ donation on the day he died.
He also helped a lot of other people through tissue donation. She says, I don't understand why Jason was taken away from us, but I do know that God took away a very good Christian young man and that he needed him more than we needed him here. We appreciate mom sharing that story. You can see Jason's face.
You can read his story. You can also hear his story told by mom and dad on lopa.org's hero's page. And now we pause and say thank you to Jason for the gift of life. We have reached the question segment of our show.
Today we have a question from info at lopa.org. The question is, how can I get involved with sharing the gift of organ, eye and tissue donation? Wow, that sounds like a question for you, Miss Theo. Yes, it does.
You don't want to say first? I'm going to start with the podcast. Share the podcast. Bo, when we leave here today, share the podcast.
Even the one with your voice on it. Right? Lots of good information. You can do that.
I mean, you can go to lopa.org and you can sign up to volunteer. What I do in my area and what my cohorts do. We host several different events from church talks. We heard from coach.
So we go in the classroom as well. We work with LSU. So we try to do different fun outside the box things to help spread the word about organ, tissue donation. So all you have to do is register your name.
That goes to the person closest to you who does community work with lopa. And we let you know what events are coming up. And if you're interested, if you have time, then you come out. A lot of folks, we had the roboli run for life not too long ago.
It was just a simple email. This is what's coming up. You want to be surrounded by people who know exactly what it is you're going through. Come out and join us.
Come eat some free food. Come smile with us. Come celebrate life. It's just that easy.
No pressure folks. All we're trying to do is save lives. And it only takes one person to make that happen. Hey, Sally, I see you doing this all the time on social media, on Facebook, sharing one of our posts.
Absolutely. Sharing something that we said here on the Gifted Life. So our Lord Jerry us was on here. I mean, look at him.
He does one interview and all these people who never thought about donation. Now think about donation. So we can make that kind of impact. We just need to join our team.
It's that easy. Is that covered? Thank you by some of those right there. There you go.
So lopa.org, sign up to volunteer today. If you have more questions, info at lopa.org. Can't wait to hear from you. Or you can give us a call.
5-0-4-6-4-8-3-4-7-7. I love it. Another episode of the Gifted Life podcast is coming to a close, guys. Making progress.
Absolutely. Fave in lives. We love it. Today on the podcast, we had Jerry's and Jordy Robertson and Dr.
Serrano talking to us about Jerry's history. Why the personality? We had to keep up with him. It was tough.
Talk about a little bit of man like him with that much energy. I know. I can show how much he can change people's processions and donations. And who does to you, Bo?
Because during the interview, if you log on to donate life, Louisiana's Facebook page, he gave you a run for your money. Because he put stuff in your hair. He was messing with you during your second podcast ever. Oh, yeah.
He challenged me. Yeah. So we love that. He was fun.
And I love that. He gets people talking about donation who wouldn't normally talk about donations. So we'll continue to follow his story. We had Coach on.
Yeah. He was excellent. I really liked hearing his dedication and how he got his students involved. And most of the time you don't hear too much about that coming from teachers and or coaches.
But all the things that he's doing to educate them. And he's got art on his driver's license. Way to go. What a partner in the classroom.
Gotta love it. What's coming up, Bo? Don't forget to watch the Rose Bowl Parade. It's gonna be on January 2nd.
And with that is the donate life float. Mr. Ricardo Buck Brown's Flora Graph is gonna be on that float. Yes.
And you'll see lots of other heroes honored on that float. One of my favorite things to do for the new year. Also, Bo, thank you. We called you.
You filled some big shoes and we appreciate it. Thank you guys. Oh, it's great. I was really thinking as he's like, I'm grateful this is over.
My brain has come to it. Can we ever figure out when Joey was off? He was running across the United States after he won the race. Yeah.
He was also on a flash mob. He's just a cool dude. A busy life that guy. No worry.
He didn't have time for us, huh? But you were fantastic. Thank you very much. Come back anytime.
Are we scared? Are you gonna come back? It's a tough job. I'll tell you what.
Somebody's gotta do it. Alright, we appreciate it. And we appreciate you listening. Please help us spread the word about the podcast.
And we hope that you go out and do something that you don't normally do today to help make life happen. Have a good one.