EPISODE · Mar 26, 2026 · 26 MIN
The Great Designer and Trainer Divide
from The Presentation Whisperer Show · host Rob Jolles
In this episode of The Presentation Whisperer Show, you’ll learn: • Why curriculum developers and trainers are often kept separate, and the hidden cost of that divide. • The real-world repercussions of designing content without considering delivery. • The key delivery questions that should be asked before a single slide or exercise is built. • Common mistakes curriculum designers make when they’ve never stood in front of a room. • What trainers frequently underestimate about the discipline and strategy behind strong instructional design. • How early trainers should be involved in the development process to ensure engagement, realism, and flow. • One immediate adjustment speakers and trainers can make to better align delivery with curriculum intent. • A practical first step organizations can take to better connect curriculum design with presentation success. To learn more about this guest: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/amanda-traeger Email: [email protected] Hosted by Rob Jolles; professional speaker, bestselling author, and four-decade veteran of the stage and training room.Learn more about Rob’s books, training programs, and keynote work at ThePresentationWhisperer.com, or Jolles.com.Connect with Rob on LinkedIn or follow Rob’s LinkedIn Newsletter, When Every Word Matters
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What this episode covers
Great workshops don’t fail because the content is bad; they fail because the content and delivery were never designed to work together. When curriculum development and presentation skills live in separate silos, even strong material can fall flat in the room. Training Specialist Amanda Traeger sits down with Rob to explore what happens when one person understands both sides of the equation; designing the learning and delivering it live. Drawing from her background in instructional design and large-scale staff development, Amanda shares what breaks down when designers and trainers don’t collaborate, and what organizations can do to finally close the gap.
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