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EPISODE · Jul 16, 2024 · 1H 46M

The Great Ordeal Chapters 8 - 11: Madness, Prophecy, and Determinism

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In this episode, we delve deep into R. Scott Bakker's captivating novel, 'The Great Ordeal'. Join us as we explore the intricate editing and point-of-view changes that define the latter part of the series, and discuss the overwhelming use of terminology and the challenges it presents to readers.We unpack the significant theme of the non-men's descent into madness and analyze the symbolic importance of the staircase in the narrative. Our conversation also speculates on the enigmatic Sorrow's mask and the mysterious flashbacks of Serwa's conversations with her father.The concept of the No-God and its relationship with the gods takes center stage as we ponder the possibilities of Kellhus's time travel and the profound role of prophecy in the story. We dive into the imbalance within the Dunyain society due to the absence of women, the evolving relationship between Kellhus and Serwa, and Saubon's remarkable character development.Intriguing plot elements like the flying raft and the strategy of the Great Ordeal are thoroughly examined, along with the series' exploration of determinism, fate, and the gods' influence in a predetermined world.Finally, we share our favorite quotes from the chapters, express our opinions on characters, particularly our dislike for Kel, and look forward to the upcoming chapters with excitement.Join us for a comprehensive analysis and engaging discussion on 'The Great Ordeal' as we unravel the complexities of Bakker's masterpiece. Find Carl: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0BY74YRN5Send us a message (I'm not able to reply)Support the showPage Chewing BlogPage Chewing ForumFilm Chewing PodcastSpeculative Speculations Podcast Support the podcast via PayPalSupport the show by using our Amazon Affiliate linkJoin Riverside.fm Co-Hosts:JarrodVarsha ChrisJoseCarl D. Albert (author)Thomas J. Devens (author)Alex French (author)Intro and Outro Music by Michael R. Fletcher (2024-Current)

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