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EPISODE · Sep 9, 2025 · 45 MIN

The Greatest Reward: Talking Legacy with My Children (with Kennedy & Jakob)

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This is the episode closest to host Kris Saim's heart. Kris sits down with his "greatest teachers and proudest legacy", his children Kennedy and Jakob, for a raw conversation about family, forgiveness, and life lessons. They reflect on the challenges they survived together; divorce, Kris’s journey of coming out, and subsequent reinvention. Kris shares the letter he wrote, delivering a long-held confession: "I know I wasn't always the father that you both deserved... I was young, I was afraid, and I was selfish at times". The family discusses core memories (from dancing to Shakira to the chaos of the "corn" scream ) and the wisdom the children gained, becoming "exceptional parents" who love fiercely and openly. They answer the central question: If Kris could do one thing earlier, what would it have been? He answers, "I would've come out earlier". This conversation is for every parent who needs to know their kids are okay and for every child waiting to hear the words that matter most. Legacy isn't built from things or titles, it's built from love and presence.

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