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EPISODE · Jan 10, 2025 · 1H 7M

The Harley-Davidson Experience with Ken Schmidt

from Experience by Design · host Ken Schmidt, Gary David

I never expected the term “branding” or “brand” to be part of my lexicon, but here we are in 2025 where it seems that “branding yourself” and “what is your brand” are common concepts to discuss. Trying to figure out which version of me will “land” or resonate with not just my “audience”, but anyone. Iconic brands are something that seem to last forever in our minds. What are some of the iconic brands? Apple. Coca-Cola. IBM. Lego. McDonalds. Doesn’t mean that we even like or use these products. But we for sure recognize those brands. Another one of those iconic brands is Harley-Davidson. You might not ride a motorcycle, but you know what Harley-Davidson is and what it represents. But it is not as if Harley-Davidson has been one brand throughout its existence. It has gone through some different iterations of what it is, and how it is seen. But within all of those changes has been a constant of what it was trying to represent. To explore the brand known as Harley Davidson, we welcome Ken Schmidt to the ExD Studio. Ken originally wanted to be in advertising, but ended up in public and investor relations. His journey in the profession saw him end up as director of communications for Harley-Davidson, where he was involved in the company’s turnaround.Part of that turnaround involved changing the perception of Harley-Davidson, while also keeping the perception of Harley-Davidson. Harley has been around since 1903. It was doing exclusive production for the military in World War II. When some of those soldiers returned, they wanted to still ride motorcycles. And some of those soldiers had a bit of a hard time re-integrating into polite society. Thus we get groups known as outlaw motorcycle clubs, and movies that imprinted that connection in people’s minds.Now Harley-Davidson is the motorcycle of a very diverse customer base. You can’t characterize the “Harley rider” other than a person who like comfort, aesthetics, reliability, and yes even noise as part of their riding experience. We cover a lot of ground in this chat, including voice of the customer, inclusive design, branding and identity, the psychology of choice, and the challenges of changing how you are seen while trying to keep who you are. We also talk about his book “Make some noise: The unconventional road to dominance.”I will also add that this conversation was before Harley-Davidson publicly announced it would rollback “DEI initiatives,” including partnering with pride festivals and connections with diversity-related groups.  In terms of how it relates to my conversation with Ken, this last paragraph from Harley is definitely relevant: "We believe having both a broad employee and customer base is good for business and that ultimately everybody should experience the joy of riding a Harley-Davidson. We remain committed to listening to all members of our community as we continue on our journey together as the most desirable motorcycle brand in the world."Ken Schmidt: https://kenspeaks.com/Ken Schmidt LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-schmidt-5b08115/"Make Some Noise" book Link

On this episode of Experience by Design, we welcome brand master and motorcycle rider Ken Schmidt. Ken was the director of communications at Harley-Davidson, where he helped to oversee the company's turnaround and rebranding. We talk about the legacy of Harley-Davidson, and how it embraced a new direction while retaining its traditional vision. We explore the importance of voice of the customer in how the bikes were designed, and how that turned into the company's path to success. We discuss the importance of being inclusive in design in order to attract a broader customer base. And we talk about what happens when you buy a bike that is not fitted to your needs and identity.

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