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EPISODE · Jul 7, 2026 · 25 MIN

The Hidden Cost of Shame for Leaders | Michael Cusick (Part 2)

from Reframe Fix | The Official Workbench Podcast · host Jake Smith

In Part 2 of this conversation, Jake Smith continues talking with Michael Cusick — founder, therapist, author, speaker, and coach — about the false self leaders build to feel safe, and what it costs them.They unpack how shame disconnects us from ourselves, from others, and from a larger sense of purpose, why it pushes leaders to either inflate or shrink, and why no amount of success, money, or title can satisfy the deeper need to be truly known. Jake opens up about his own story of hitting a breaking point, facing the shame he had buried, and finding unexpected acceptance on the other side of vulnerability.A candid look at what self-awareness and self-regulation really demand from the leaders willing to do the work.(Missed Part 1? Start there for the full conversation on vulnerability and authority.)

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