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EPISODE · May 27, 2026 · 8 MIN

The Hidden Productivity Cost of Managerial Overhead

from The Productivity Podcast with Fexingo: Output, Efficiency, and Long-Term Economic Growth · host Fexingo

Episode 15 of The Productivity Podcast digs into a surprising drag on American output: the ballooning ratio of managers to individual contributors. Since 1983, the number of managers per worker has grown by over 80 percent, yet productivity growth has slowed. Lucas and Luna explore a 2025 study from the National Bureau of Economic Research that isolates managerial overhead as a net negative on firm-level output, using data from 2,400 U.S. firms. They discuss why middle management expanded in the first place—blaming tax distortions, legacy hierarchies, and the Peter Principle—and what companies like W.L. Gore and Patagonia are doing differently. The hosts also touch on a recent experiment at a 600-person software firm that cut manager headcount by 30 percent without losing output. The episode closes with a reflection on how rethinking organizational design might be the highest-ROI productivity lever leaders are ignoring. #ManagerialOverhead #Productivity #MiddleManagement #OrganizationalDesign #Economics #NBER #PeterPrinciple #WLGore #Patagonia #FirmProductivity #OutputPerWorker #ManagementRatio #FlatHierarchy #WorkplaceEfficiency #FexingoBusiness #BusinessPodcast #ProductivityPodcast #EconomicsPodcast Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo

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