The High School That Guarantees Millionaires with Nat Eliason | 146

Nat Eliason left a decade of independent building to take his first job in over ten years. He is now running Founder School, a new private high school in New York City that promises every graduate a million dollar business, or the family gets their $600,000 tuition refunded in full. The refund pool is backed by a billionaire's personal capital, not insurance. If the model fails, he writes the check.We go deep on why grades don't matter at Founder School (and why straight-A students are getting rejected), the 80% of entrepreneurial success Nat believes is genetic, the McCarthy line about fathers he can't shake, the real reason Gen Z is starting more companies than any generation before them (it's not money, it's status), and the sentence that made me sit up in my chair: there is no such thing as intrinsic motivation.If you have an ambitious teenager in your life, or if you are one, this one's for you.⏰ TIMESTAMPS00:00 — Introduction00:17 — The $1M Guarantee (And Why He Might Be Underpromising)04:22 — The Three Kinds Of Pushback He Gets07:58 — Why Straight-A Students Get Rejected21:34 — 80% Of It Is Genetic (Cormac McCarthy's Answer To Parenting)27:36 — The Real Reason Gen Z Is Starting Companies (Not The Money)36:08 — Business School vs. 4,000 Hours At Founder School43:53 — Why Alpha Might Fix Education Before The Government Ever Will54:45 — "There Is No Such Thing As Intrinsic Motivation"1:00:28 — His First Job In Over A Decade (And Why He Took It)1:04:25 — What Every Entrepreneurial Kid Should Do First🔗 GUEST LINKSNat EliasonX: https://x.com/nateliasonInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nat_eliason/?hl=enLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nateliason/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/nateliasonBlog: https://blog.nateliason.com/Founder School: https://founders.school/Website: https://www.nateliason.comThe Grateful Podcast with Jack WagonerSubscribe for more deep conversations with thinkers, seekers, and soulful creators. 🙏📺 Listen on your favorite platform:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-grateful-podcast-with-jack-wagoner/id1725776061Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5EsTEpQAjU4BxUrDoFyZ6bInnerVue - the software that closes your self-awareness gap through anonymous feedback from the people closest to you.→ https://yourinnervue.comUse code GRATEFUL20 for 20% off a Tier 1 assessment plus a complimentary coach-led debrief.🧠 More from Jack:► Website: https://jackwagoner.co► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jack_wagoner_/📺 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Jack_Wagoner⸻🎙️ About Jack:I moved to France alone at 16, started my first business at 17, and launched this podcast because I kept meeting people who had the answers to questions I didn't even know I was asking. My philosophy: you can set massive goals while being deeply fulfilled right now. That's the duality of gratitude and ambition.Subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode.Stay grateful, stay hungry.