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EPISODE · Jun 11, 2020 · 1H 43M

The Importance of Having Hard Conversations

from Angels and Awakening

“We can be Spiritual and angry at the same time. We can be Spiritual and take action at the same time.”   In the interview today, I am talking with a podcast listener, June. Divya is also back to co-host with me! June tells us how, as a Black woman, she is aware that when she is with white women, she is aware that they are filtering what they are saying to her. June shares what it’s like to be in a bi-racial relationship in the Midwest. We talk about implicit bias, actions you can take to support the Black community, Spiritual bypassing, and the importance of having difficult conversations.    I am learning so much through these beautiful women, and through all of you! Together, I know we can evolve, grow, and change to make a better future. We need to acknowledge the racist problems that exist in our communities rather than sweep it under the rug. These are Global issues causing pain for so many. In order for healing to begin in the Black community, we must say yes, there is a problem. I see it. We need to acknowledge we played a role in this problem with our silence and with our passiveness. We have work to do, friends.   Want to Learn More? Follow, Subscribe and Support These Beautiful Souls Lee C. Cordell (Facebook): https://www.facebook.com/lee.c.cordell Anita Garza (Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/the_soul_impacter/ Sincerely Lettie (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sincerely-lettie/id1472953701 and https://www.instagram.com/sincerely.lettie/ Check Your Privilege, Co-Conspired Conversations with Myisha T (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/co-conspired-conversations/id1447632885 and https://www.instagram.com/myishathill/ That’s Not How That Works with Trudi and Weeze (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thats-not-how-that-works/id1358150402 and https://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/ and Stephanie’s Resource List Books: “How To Be Anti-Racist” by Ibram Kendi “So You Want to Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo “White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide” by Carol Anderson “Tears We Cannot Stop: A Sermon To White America” by Michael Eric Dyson “The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism” by Edward Baptist “The Condemnation of Blackness“ by Khalil Gibran Muhammad “Me And White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor” by Layla F. Saad “White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism” by Robin DiAngelo “Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice that Shapes What We See, Think, and Do” by Jennifer L. Eberhardt “White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America” by Margaret A. Hagerman  ”The Color of Law” by Richard Rothstein I’m Still Here by Austin Channing Brown   Buy Black Apps and Websites: We Buy Black: https://webuyblack.com/ Black wall Street: https://officialblackwallstreet.com/directory/ Buy Black: https://buyblackkc.org/   Organizations: https://eji.org/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/  https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/about/   Glossary: Racial Equity Tools:https://www.racialequitytools.org/glossary    Things to watch: The First Time I Realized I was Black https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/us/first-time-i-realized-i-was-black/   I am still here https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/defininggrace/art-of-the-sermon/e/54526347   White Awake: An honest look to what it means to be white https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=DNkE5kNnlDQ   13 https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741   Articles:  White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack Peggy McIntosh   http://convention.myacpa.org/houston2018/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf   Answering White People’s Most Commonly Asked Questions about the Black Lives Matter Movement https://thebolditalic.com/where-do-i-donate-why-is-the-uprising-violent-should-i-go-protest-5cefeac37ef9   The Use Of Anger: Woman Responding To Racism by Audre Lorde 1981 https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/speeches-african-american-history/1981-audre-lorde-uses-anger-women-responding-racism/   Why We Need To Talk About White Privilege In Art Education  https://canadianart.ca/news/white-privilege-in-arts-education/   100 RACE-CONSCIOUS THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO YOUR CHILD TO ADVANCE RACIAL JUSTICE: http://www.raceconscious.org/2016/06/100-race-conscious-things-to-say-to-your-child-to-advance-racial-justice/ “America’s Racial Contract Is Killing Us” by Adam Serwer | Atlantic (May 8, 2020) Beyond the Streets https://issuu.com/nlc.sf.2014/docs/beyondthestreets_final White Debt https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/magazine/white-debt.html Project 1619 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html   Podcasts: 1.Race Forward https://www.raceforward.org/media/podcast/momentum-race-forward-podcast Speaking of  Racism https://speakingofracism.podbean.com/   Lets Talk about Whiteness https://onbeing.org/programs/eula-biss-lets-talk-about-whiteness-sep2018/   THE C.O.W.S.https://www.talkshoe.com/show/thecows   Black History Year https://pushblack.simplecast.com/   Project 1619     https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1619/id1476928106   White Lies https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510343/white-lies

“We can be Spiritual and angry at the same time. We can be Spiritual and take action at the same time.”   In the interview today, I am talking with a podcast listener, June. Divya is also back to co-host with me! June tells us how, as a Black woman, she is aware that when she is with white women, she is aware that they are filtering what they are saying to her. June shares what it’s like to be in a bi-racial relationship in the Midwest. We talk about implicit bias, actions you can take to support the Black community, Spiritual bypassing, and the importance of having difficult conversations.    I am learning so much through these beautiful women, and through all of you! Together, I know we can evolve, grow, and change to make a better future. We need to acknowledge the racist problems that exist in our communities rather than sweep it under the rug. These are Global issues causing pain for so many. In order for healing to begin in the Black community, we must say yes, there is a problem. I see it. We need to acknowledge we played a role in this problem with our silence and with our passiveness. We have work to do, friends.   Want to Learn More? Follow, Subscribe and Support These Beautiful Souls Lee C. Cordell (Facebook): https://www.facebook.com/lee.c.cordell Anita Garza (Instagram): https://www.instagram.com/the_soul_impacter/ Sincerely Lettie (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sincerely-lettie/id1472953701 and https://www.instagram.com/sincerely.lettie/ Check Your Privilege, Co-Conspired Conversations with Myisha T (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/co-conspired-conversations/id1447632885 and https://www.instagram.com/myishathill/ That’s Not How That Works with Trudi and Weeze (Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thats-not-how-that-works/id1358150402 and https://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/ and Stephanie’s Resource List Books: “How To Be Anti-Racist” by Ibram Kendi “So You Want to Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo “White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide” by Carol Anderson “Tears We Cannot Stop: A Sermon To White America” by Michael Eric Dyson “The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism” by Edward Baptist “The Condemnation of Blackness“ by Khalil Gibran Muhammad “Me And White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor” by Layla F. Saad “White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism” by Robin DiAngelo “Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice that Shapes What We See, Think, and Do” by Jennifer L. Eberhardt “White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America” by Margaret A. Hagerman  ”The Color of Law” by Richard Rothstein I’m Still Here by Austin Channing Brown   Buy Black Apps and Websites: We Buy Black: https://webuyblack.com/ Black wall Street: https://officialblackwallstreet.com/directory/ Buy Black: https://buyblackkc.org/   Organizations: https://eji.org/ https://blacklivesmatter.com/  https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/about/   Glossary: Racial Equity Tools:https://www.racialequitytools.org/glossary    Things to watch: The First Time I Realized I was Black https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/us/first-time-i-realized-i-was-black/   I am still here https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/defininggrace/art-of-the-sermon/e/54526347   White Awake: An honest look to what it means to be white https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=DNkE5kNnlDQ   13 https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741   Articles:  White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack Peggy McIntosh   http://convention.myacpa.org/houston2018/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf   Answering White People’s Most Commonly Asked Questions about the Black Lives Matter Movement https://thebolditalic.com/where-do-i-donate-why-is-the-uprising-violent-should-i-go-protest-5cefeac37ef9   The Use Of Anger: Woman Responding To Racism by Audre Lorde 1981 https://www.blackpast.org/african-amer

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