The invisible operators behind Kamala Harris, Justin Trudeau & Jacinda Ardern

Phoebe Santillan-Stocks has spoken to some of the most powerful right hands in the world - the people operating just out of sight, shaping history from behind the scenes. The founder of Missing Perspectives and author of The Right Hand, explores what it’s really like to be a chief of staff or adviser to global leaders from Nelson Mandela to Jacinda Ardern and even Kamala Harris.  In this chat with Antoinette Lattouf, Phoebe Santillan-Stocks shares what she learned by asking big questions in her twenties, why she’s driven to amplify overlooked voices, and the lessons that stayed with her long after the interviews ended. Take part in The Briefing survey HERE.  Weekend list with Helen Smith TO EAT: Panettone tiramisu TO EAT: Fruit kebabs  TO DO: Ette Media Live Show tickets here TO DO: Gift an experience over a material item Follow The Briefing: TikTok: @thebriefingpodInstagram: @thebriefingpodcast YouTube: @TheBriefingPodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.