The iPhone is Going Extinct - Ep 29

from Two Dads in Tech · host Daniel Berk

Episode 29: Troy Munson (https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/) and Daniel Berk (https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/) fire up the mics from across the globe — literally. With Daniel calling in from a Spanish bedroom, the dads get real about raising kids while building companies, how their own childhoods shape their parenting, and what legacy really means in a hyper-growth world. Plus, a spicy take on AI sales tools, the end of the smartphone era, and why your next vacation might include teleportation. — Show Notes: (0:00) Daniel calls in from bed in Spain (0:48) Why flying with toddlers is chaos (and how Daniel hacks it) (2:14) Daniel’s son loses it in Madrid (4:10) “What do I want my kids to say at my funeral?” (6:10) Should our kids earn what we didn’t have? (8:00) When providing becomes a problem (10:00) Memories of being “not enough” as a child (11:30) Troy on public school, depression, and doing better for his kids (14:10) Systems, burnout, and fixing the root causes (17:25) Love your spouse out loud — here’s why (19:03) Troy’s mom might be our next guest?! (20:30) What happened to “simple”? (22:35) AI tools we’re using right now (Dimmo, Sybill, etc.) (24:25) The “AI agent” debate + AI sales truth bombs (27:40) Why Gong might not be it anymore (28:50) ClickUp, Replit, and the race to own the workflow (30:00) “The next phone is not a phone” — the future of devices (31:55) Wearables, teleportation, and post-screen tech (34:25) Daniel’s bizarre powdered donut story (35:45) The digital detox challenge is ON (36:50) New site drop + what’s next — Links: • Troy Munson's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/troymunson/ • Daniel Berk's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielberk/ • Two Dads in Tech Newsletter – https://twodadsintech.com/ • Shop Two Dads in Tech – https://shop.twodadsintech.com/ • Listen on Spotify – https://open.spotify.com/show/30GQP8FPJoKpLGpYBahlFP • Listen on Apple – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-dads-in-tech/id1785662964 • Check out Dimmo – https://www.dimmo.ai/

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