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EPISODE · Apr 3, 2026 · 1H 12M

The Jael Model: Beyond Tradwives and Girl Bosses with Emma Waters

from The Narrative · host Center for Christian Virtue

Today, Aaron, Mike, and special guest Maria Baer celebrate a massive Supreme Court victory for the First Amendment and biblical truth. With their 8-1 ruling in favor of therapist Kaley Chiles, the Court struck a blow against the Left’s 15-year crusade to ban so-called "conversion therapy" and muzzle Christian counselors. Listen to this episode of The Narrative to hear how the radical lobby uses state power to embrace evil and alienate children from reality and truth.After the news, Heritage Foundation Policy Analyst Emma Waters joins the hosts to shatter the modern "girl boss" and "tradwife" delusions with her new book, Lead Like Jael. Emma breaks down how the biblical story of Jael provides a new blueprint for women to cultivate uniquely feminine virtues like shrewdness and discernment in a culture that treats womanhood and motherhood as liabilities. From exposing the "toxic empathy" of the radical Left to calling out the Church’s own failure to articulate the goodness of marriage, Emma shares how a productive, Christ-centered home is the ultimate weapon against an enemy that always attacks the family first.More about Emma WatersEmma Waters is a Policy Analyst in the Center for Technology and the Human Person at The Heritage Foundation. Her work focuses on family, biotechnology, and reproductive medicine. She is a co-author of “A Future for the Family: A New Technology Agenda for the Right” statement at First Things. Her first book, Lead Like Jael, was released with Skyhorse Publishing in early 2026. Emma graduated Valedictorian at Lee University with a B.S. in Political Science and a B.A. in Biblical and Theological Studies. She is currently pursuing a Master of Public Policy at The Catholic University of America. She lives in Pennsylvania with her husband and two daughters.Want to Go Deeper?On Saturday, April 11, Center for Christian Virtue will host our 2026 Columbus Celebration Gala.We're excited to welcome our keynote speaker, Scott Jennings, who is CNN's senior conservative voice and one of the sharpest commentators in the national spotlight. He's known for his clarity, conviction, and humor, and Scott brings decades of experience at the crossroads of politics and media, including serving in the George W. Bush White House and key roles in multiple presidential and Senate campaigns. It's going to be an elegant evening where you'll enjoy an incredible dinner followed by visionary keynotes exploring the path forward for the future of Ohio and America. Get your tickets or secure your table today at CCV.org/ColumbusGala.

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