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EPISODE · Jul 2, 2026 · 50 MIN

The Joe Exotic Pardon, a CEO Turned Insurance Agent, and a 9-Year-Old's Wisdom

from With Hat and Cattle · host Dani Raschel Chou

Eric “Big Juicy” Love led the campaign for Joe Exotic's presidential pardon. Colin Weatherwax walked away from a CEO title to sell insurance in a small Texas town. His 9-year-old daughter Kennedy might be the wisest person in the room. This episode is about what's actually left once the title, the title, and the tragedy are gone. And it's about joy.On this episode of With Hat and Cattle, Dani Raschel Chou sits down with three guests at once: Eric “Big Juicy” Love, Colin Weatherwax, and Colin's daughter, Kennedy. Eric is a Fort Worth private investigator and philanthropist who led the 2020–21 campaign for a presidential pardon of “Tiger King” star Joe Exotic. Colin spent years working his way to CEO of a nonprofit before an unexpected job loss led him to insurance sales in Roanoke, Texas. Kennedy, age 9, was named Mayor of Arlington for a Day during White Cane Safety Day.Together they talk about the difference between joy and happiness, what actually survives once a title disappears, how to keep showing up for people without being asked, and what it means to grieve — a dog, a job, a friendship — out loud. Eric also previews forgiveness, his upcoming documentary on people who've forgiven the unforgivable.This episode follows the With Hat and Cattle motto: stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening.Guest Bios:Eric “Big Juicy” Love — Fort Worth private investigator, philanthropist, and self-described “professional friend-maker.” Led Team Tiger's 2020–21 campaign for a presidential pardon of Joe Exotic (Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/who-eric-love-tiger-king-team-tiger-pardon-joe-exotic-leader-1650352). Currently producing Forgiveness, a documentary on people who've forgiven the unforgivable.Colin Weatherwax — Former nonprofit CEO, now an insurance agent focused on home, auto, and key-person coverage in Roanoke, Texas. Known for intentional, no-agenda networking and staying in touch with the people who matter.Kennedy Weatherwax — Colin's 9-year-old daughter, named Mayor of Arlington, Texas for a Day during White Cane Safety Day. Reads in braille, plays piano, and has better advice than most adults.Episode Outline + TimestampsJoy vs. happiness, and why they're not the same thing [13:00]Colin's path from CEO to insurance agent, and the wake-up call that changed his definition of success [7:00, 14:00]The real story behind the Joe Exotic pardon campaign, from the person who ran it [19:00]How to build a network from nothing once the title's gone [21:00, 23:00]Kennedy's rule for staying close to the people she loves [27:00, 29:00]Grief, in real time — a dog, a job, a friendship [31:00, 35:00, 39:00]Inside Eric's next project, Forgiveness [47:00]Resources & Sources Mentioned-        Newsweek — “Meet 'Pardon Joe Exotic' Campaigner Eric Love”: https://www.newsweek.com/who-eric-love-tiger-king-team-tiger-pardon-joe-exotic-leader-1650352-        TMZ — “Joe Exotic's Team Arrives to Deliver Pardon Request to President Trump”: https://www.tmz.com/2020/09/10/joe-exotic-tiger-team-eric-love-presidential-pardon-request-trump-dc/Subscribe to With Hat and Cattle so you don't miss next week's episode. We're breaking our usual every-other-week schedule for a conversation with Amir Habib on AI literacy.With Hat and Cattle is a podcast hosted by Dani Raschel Chou featuring honest conversations with people who've earned their lessons through experience. This episode features Eric “Big Juicy” Love, a Fort Worth, Texas private investigator who led the 2020–21 campaign for a presidential pardon of Joe Exotic; Colin Weatherwax, a former nonprofit CEO now working in insurance; and Colin's daughter Kennedy Weatherwax, age 9, named Mayor of Arlington, Texas for a Day. The show's motto: stories from people who walk the walk, and leave you better off for listening.That's the With Hat and Cattle promise: Bringing you stories from people who walk the walk and leave you better off for listening.Connect with Dani Raschel Chou on Instagram @withhatandcattle or via email at [email protected]. Subscribe to our YouTube channel for more conversations that leave you better off for listening: With Hat and Cattle I Hosted by Dani Raschel Chou - YouTube! Go to www.withhatandcattle.com to sign up for our mailing list so you don't miss weekly insights. Be sure to check out our affiliate links!

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Eric “Big Juicy” Love led the campaign for Joe Exotic's presidential pardon. Colin Weatherwax walked away from a CEO title to sell insurance in a small Texas town. His 9-year-old daughter Kennedy might be the wisest person in the room. This episode is about what's actually left once the title, the title, and the tragedy are gone. And it's about joy. On this episode of With Hat and Cattle, Dani Raschel Chou sits down with three guests at once: Eric “Big Juicy” Love, Colin Weatherwax, and Colin...

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