EPISODE · Apr 2, 2026 · 19 MIN
The King and the Cross: Redefining Power Through Pain
from Diving into God · host Michael Fierro
In this episode of Diving into God, hosts David and Liz conduct a deep dive into the theological work of Michael Fiero, specifically his exploration of the "King who suffers". They challenge the universal human instinct to view suffering as a sign of divine abandonment, proposing instead a framework where love and agony are deeply intertwined.Key topics discussed in this episode include:The Concept of Kenosis: An exploration of "self-emptying" and how the Creator of the universe deliberately stepped into the most broken parts of human existence to transform suffering from within.The Mechanism of the Eucharist: How the act of physical consumption serves as a permanent "anti-abandonment" bond between Christ and humanity.The Psychology of Palm Sunday: A critique of the human tendency to cheer for convenience while rejecting the discomfort of genuine sacrifice.Redefining Kingship: A look at the interrogation between Pontius Pilate and Jesus, contrasting worldly dominance with a kingdom ruled by vulnerability and self-gift.The episode concludes by applying these radical theological concepts to modern life, challenging listeners to reconsider how they hold authority and influence in their own "little kingdoms," from the boardroom to the living room.
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In this episode of Diving into God, hosts David and Liz conduct a deep dive into the theological work of Michael Fiero, specifically his exploration of the "King who suffers". They challenge the universal human instinct to view suffering as a sign of divine abandonment, proposing instead a framework where love and agony are deeply intertwined.Key topics discussed in this episode include:The Concept of Kenosis: An exploration of "self-emptying" and how the Creator of the universe deliberately stepped into the most broken parts of human existence to transform suffering from within.The Mechanism of the Eucharist: How the act of physical consumption serves as a permanent "anti-abandonment" bond between Christ and humanity.The Psychology of Palm Sunday: A critique of the human tendency to cheer for convenience while rejecting the discomfort of genuine sacrifice.Redefining Kingship: A look at the interrogation between Pontius Pilate and Jesus, contrasting worldly dominance with a kingdom ruled by vulnerability and self-gift.The episode concludes by applying these radical theological concepts to modern life, challenging listeners to reconsider how they hold authority and influence in their own "little kingdoms," from the boardroom to the living room.
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