I tried to justify these two girls that I followed to my girl last night. So she looks at the people you follow. You're crazy. I think every girl does.
Yeah. But if she brings it up, that's different. She bring it up. I for some reason, I was like scrolling and I think she saw me kind of like stop.
Oh, no, stop. I'll purposely open my Instagram and just like keep the same tempo, even if it's bad. Go through it. And then I'll stop on a dude like, oh, let me see what he's doing.
Yeah. So just so this is what she says. I scroll in the trail. You see you scroll at the tempo, then you keep track of the name.
I got you. No, no, no, no. I know. Fuck you talking about.
You know what he's talking about? The following cricket players. Has there been another person like Dennis Robinson's game? No, no, no, no, not just game wise, who he was as a human being, not only in sports in entertainment.
Has there been another person like in person? I'm not just talking about an athletics person like Dennis Robinson's close Antonio Brown. How so make the art? Make the art.
Okay. Parties does ask wild does whatever shows up. Works harder than everybody out there. Now he's more destructive than Robin, but Robin also needed to be like held in check.
And I think Antonio Brown on the Patriots would have been like Robin on the Bulls. Like the party. I want attention. I seek attention, whatever.
But end of the day, I'll work everybody. That is interesting. But was Antonio Brown doing this prior? We didn't know this version of Antonio Brown until he got kicked off.
We knew a little bit, but he wasn't like Robin. It wasn't like Robin was like international news, right? Can you also like Robin? Yes.
Yeah, yeah. I don't think it was the first call he made to the Bulls. So it might have been, you know. You think that you don't think him was like, can I get Jordan?
And they're like, you probably can't get Jordan. Can I get Scottie? I don't think that's the best way to hang out with Robin over Scotty. Who you want to hang out with?
Maybe. Maybe it doesn't matter. Back to Robin. I don't know if there's a good comparison, but I would say Takashi 69.
Ooh. So he wasn't an athlete, of course, but really is his ability to still make bangers while living the wildest fucking life. Yeah. Like I just think he was excelling in both areas.
So in music, he was excelling and then he was just living wild. That's an interesting one. I haven't heard about Takashi. I think Takashi's interesting.
I don't think there's been another person that's like Dennis Robin. If you think about what Robin was doing, like Robin was doing shit, it's still taboo now back before people even knew what the fuck it was. Robin was dressing in drag, right? This is a black man lipstick, lipstick wedding dress, dying his hair crazy, wearing leather pants like this is a black man in the fucking 90s doing this, right?
Now if you're a rock star, you're one of these like white rocker dudes who like bangs his fucking like band mates, but also is like straight kind of like it's not that crazy. We're talking about black man in sports. Black dudes in the 90s did not do that. No one did that.
Barely now. Barely now. In the 90s, you just never ever saw it. Now if you're in New York, you'll see that shit.
I don't think even in New York in the village you'd have seen that. I mean, you might have some actual gay guys. But like this guy, so Dennis Robin is out here. He is completely unbelievable in his antics, right?
Like he's dating Madonna. I don't think people understand what that means. Madonna was at that time the biggest artist in the world probably. Late 90s too?
Yeah. She's probably like Britney Spears when Britney was in her prime. Also it's not late 90s. He's dating Madonna when he's with the Spurs.
So mid 91 or 92? Nah, he's pissing it out of 93 94. No, 91 92 he got the rings, maybe 93. Okay, so mid mid, mid.
He's dating fucking Madonna. People don't understand Madonna is massive. One of the biggest artists in the history of the game, right? Tic Ancius 69 barely dated Instagram thoughts, right?
Like this guy is dating the biggest artist, one of the biggest artists of all time, and the biggest artist at the time, right? And bangers is not the same as five rings. Three after he started that. It's hard making a hit.
No, no, it's hard making a hit. I hear what you're saying, but I also hear what you're saying. It's different things to it. But then he dates when he's with the Bulls Carmen Electra.
I don't think people realize. I'm like, that bitch. She was that bitch. Well, what?
She was like becoming that bitch. She was probably helped her become the son. She was already Prince's girl. She started out as Prince's girl.
Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, I thought that came after. No, she started out as Prince's girl.
Then she got an MTV. I think she took over for Jenny McCarthy with Singled Out. Maybe something. And then she just became sex.
She was sex personified, right? So you go from Madonna to the next sexiest bitch, right? You're out partying all of them, right? Okay.
Dressing whoever the fuck you want, nail polish, tattoos, lip rit, belly button ring. You're defying all these cultural standards of masculinity while you're in this sport that's supposed to personify masculinity. Yeah. All forgiven because you don't care what motherfuckers think about you.
You do deeply do care and that's why you're rejecting it, but doesn't matter, right? All the while winning motherfucking rings, right? Like defensive MVP. Best, best rebounder ever in the history of the game.
People forget about the spur season. You know he averaged 17 rebounds a game of the spur season. Wait for it. Didn't even start all the games.
He didn't even start every game you had, Duncan and Robinson on the team. Talking about it. Yes, he was. Yes, he was.
Look it up. I don't think so. Look at Duncan and Robinson and see if they were on the team. Duncan got to Robinson was.
Robinson didn't like Robin. That was a big point of contention. After like 97, 98, I'm like a 90. Look at what your Tim Duncan was on the.
Anyway. Point is 97. Are you sure? Yeah.
Oh man. I looked at a shit up. Anyway, I was reading some article that said he has one thing. Can we say one thing?
Yeah. You got to take back what you said about not one. That's what I was going for. That's what I was going to.
You know, I was I said I don't want to hear anything about any other any other player, but I forget how fucking interesting everyone on that team was. I mean, I mean everyone maybe not put maybe not pipping. I want more episodes on Phil. I'm fascinated by Phil.
Yeah. I want to. I want to keep that. Okay.
I'm and again, I completely take back whatever the fuck I said about not want to see any other characters. That's fine. I still find Jordan to be the most interesting one, but Robin is the most fascinating one, one of the most fascinating human beings in human beings in history is unbelievable. So I'm looking at this guy.
I'm like, there is no version of him now. Some people said Kanye was that you said Kanye? No, some people said Kanye. I find it interesting.
Kanye might have done the opposite version of what Robin did. So like Robin pushed back against the stereotypes of masculinity by by going like gay with it and Kanye is pushing him back against the stereotypes of Blackness and America by going maybe conservative or MAGA with it, right? They're still rejecting what you're not allowed to be in an effort to be free. And if you like look at a lot of Kanye's language, like I want to be able to do whatever I want, I want to have that ability to be free.
I want to do these like, Robin said that a lot too. Yeah. Right. And he needed that liberation.
He needed that leash. He needed that extra long leash. It was interesting that Madonna was the one that was like got it out of him. Yeah.
She's like, so Madonna's like white Erica Badoop. Think about it. Erica Badoop got to whatever you got guy and flipped their ass. What was the outcast dude dressed normal to Erica Badoop?
Do you got him? I'm like a recording what? Common has weird ass album electric circuits as well. Erica Badoop got fuck you up pussy.
At real talk, right? Right. But Madonna, Lanny Cravitz, Dennis Robin, who else? Vanilla ice.
She's hit. Legends. Anyway, she got this guy. She got this guy.
It's hard to make hits, bro. You can say it's hard to make hits. Everyone's coming. So you got this guy who is a complete fucking enigma, right?
And somehow what? He's got the tensile horses right there. I said enigma. Okay, relax, yo.
Fuck yo. Come on son. I didn't say enigma. So he's a complete.
Enigma, right? And somehow he fits into the bulls, right? Right. And we have to look at how the fuck he fits in the bulls.
We understand why he doesn't fit into the Spurs, right? Spurs are ultimate team first. There's a reason why most people didn't know Kawai's greatness is because the greatness gets swallowed up by the team, right? You can't be yourself within a Spurs.
You are part of the machine and they do great because of it, but you're part of the machine. Right. Robin's individual alley didn't exist with the Spurs. I don't think that was popping it either because I don't know if he was coaching that.
I think it was there. But Robinson's a fucking he's a Navy guy. Yeah. He's an organization though.
He's from the Navy. So he's like, I'm not. What is this? Get it out of here.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so it's like the other situation where it couldn't exist and while he wants to finally entertain the side of him that he got the balls to lean into, he can't do it with the Spurs.
But I don't think that that's just it. We know that Robin has these mental problems with the Pistons, right? Yeah. He's got mental problems in general, right?
And like a lot of people who have kind of mental issues, they gravitate towards athletics because it takes extreme focus. Yeah. And I think what happens is when you're in the heat of battle, the only thing you can think about is that game and it takes you out of all these horrible thoughts that you have going around your head, similar to music, right? Like a lot of times mental people, mental issues, grab tips for music because they can get lost in playing the music, right?
And I think what happens is when you are in the heat of the battle and you experience not just regular season, but championships. Yeah. Once you experience championships, that's the condom off. You fucking roll.
Yeah. Right? Yeah. You fucking roll.
Yeah. Once you put the condom back on, which is regular season, yeah, they don't have the same stakes. Right. Right.
So you can't beat that bird that needs to fly and you're playing regular season games and you're getting fucking teed up. Why are you getting teed up? Because it doesn't matter. Yeah.
None of these games matter. Right. He was playing with the Bulls. Right.
Scotty goes down. He has that moment with, you know, Jordan where he goes to the hotel room, whatever it is, basically he'll apologize, but doesn't apologize. Ask for the cigar, but Jordan looks at it like an apology and all of a sudden he's focused. Right.
Yeah. Why? Because the stakes were high again. Pippin comes back, falls apart again.
Doesn't fall apart. He just knows he's not needed. He knows he could coast. He's not going to go to the documentary where he was like, and on these games make a difference.
I'm just bored. I got to find some way to do it. Right. It didn't occupy enough of this.
Play off intensity. Locked in. Pippin goes out. Locked in.
The second Pippin's back. Yeah. I could quit. It's easy.
I don't look at it exactly like that. I thought, I mean, based on whatever, like I saw some made for TV movie about Dennis Ramon, all the kid was wack, but what I basically figured out about him is he just didn't have a father. Like that he had no family structure. He had nobody that loved him.
The family that kind of like took him in either when he was in college or helped him get into college to play ball. He always just needed a father, Chuck Daly, was his father. So with the Pistons, he's good. Structure, once you've earned his trust, he likes, I think.
I didn't understand Antonio. Nobody earned his trust and then gave him structure. Right. Chuck Daly gave him structure was his father when Chuck got fired.
He started off the rails. Why do you think in one of the most structured organizations in basketball, he couldn't have a structure? Because I think they didn't also give him. He didn't earn his trust first.
Like first you got to earn my trust. And then I'm not going to reject it. What does it take to earn his trust? I think everybody had a different approach.
I think when the Pistons got there, everybody kind of took him in, sheltered and whatever. For whatever reason, he always loved Chuck Daly to this day. And then Phil knew how to talk to him. What was it?
Native American term used? I wrote it down. Some dumb shit filled me up. But either way, I'm just going to walk a walk.
And then I'm like, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. But that Robin bought it. And he said, I'll let you do you.
So Robin's like, OK, he trusts me. Now I can respect the structure. Now Michael trusts me. That's what he said.
They always let me be me. That's what I need right now. Don't just come impose the shit. And then the structure of a practice and stuff.
Structure is in position. Say what? Structure is in position. Like when you say I need a structure my day, it's not doing everyone with your day.
It's like, hey, if I'm talking to wake up, I'm talking to be a practice, I'm talking to eat. Structure is a fancy way of saying here is your schedule. Yeah. So it's like, does he need structure or does he need liberation?
I think that he actually needs liberation more than anything. I think he doesn't need structure. I think that Robin is actually incredibly self disciplined if you let him fly. And Chuck Daly said to that coach, that assistant coach that was coaching him a little too hard, he steps over and he goes, hey, you don't put a saddle on a Mustang.
So Chuck Daly understood, you don't overcoat Robin. Robin is built to give you everything. He will give you everything if you let him be himself and the Spurs didn't understand it. The Spurs didn't understand it.
The Spurs were like, well, no, you just come to the practice, you play like this, you do like that, et cetera. And they was like, no, you don't. You let that motherfucker do whatever you want because on the floor, he's going to empty the tank every single game. And there's one other player on the bull's empty tank every single game.
MJ, MJ, MJ. And I've never seen MJ speak about someone the way that he spoke about Robin, not Scotty. When he's talking about the Vegas trip, not even the Vegas trip, just in general. He has no criticisms of Robin.
It's unbelievable. Yeah, I think at one point he was like, oh, that's the smartest player I've ever seen ever. I've never seen MJ speak so highly of someone. Scotty, you could tell MJ got some issues.
Like the migraine shit, even to this day, he's like, motherfucker, a ticket, Advil. Right? Like, what was my migraine? I'm not going to lie, I get them sometimes in my visual field.
My migraine feels very irritating. So what happens to me is I've ever heard you complain about a migraine. It'll happen to me on the road. Sometimes when I'll be like, I got to take a nap.
Like, I'm just trying to sleep that off. So what happens is you know how like the right part of your brain, I think focus on the left visual field and like vice versa. So if I feel the migraine coming here, the headache will go away and then this side will be blurry or it's vice versa. It's like first blurry and then the headache comes afterwards.
Those are dude, dude. I remember when I was a kid, Terrell Davis almost sat out of the Super Bowl because of migraine. And it's stress related. He was just stressed out.
Scotty was feeling immense stress. I'm sure it was probably like, I don't want to let this do it. The Wayne Wade is misgained because of the migraines. I've never gotten a migraine.
So I don't know what it is, but anybody that gets them, it's like they're out there. So don't think about it like a headache. Think about it literally like you cannot see. This is just blurry.
And it's not like you could close your eye. You're dumb at first and you just go, I'll just close this side and then I'll be able to focus. It's your left visual field. You're not going to be in blurry.
That was my vision. The fuck is going on? What was stressful? I don't know.
Honestly, I don't know. I laughed at that because I thought when you got the flu on the road and Andrew was like, yeah, he says you got the flu, whatever you're not coming in today. I don't know. What was it?
Whatever you got the flu. You went around on the road and you missed the podcast. That's what it was. I still was in this carotid.
Maybe. And then Andrew was like, where's Alex? He got the flu. And I was like, really?
He's like, I guess. He was like, he got migraines or whatever. I guess. The same thing.
What can I say? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I had a flu weekend that weekend.
You did have a flu weekend. You came through. You delivered. Yeah, he did.
Oh, wait. Where were we with that? It was with his respect for Robin. I mean, MJ is not flying to Las Vegas and knocking on anyone's hotel.
That was crazy that it was actually Michael Jordan. That was so dope. That was dope. I mean, that is the greatest compliment of all time.
Yeah. The greatest compliment of all time is Michael Jordan knocks on your fucking hotel room when you've been gone for 72 hours or however many hours it was and says, hey, we got to go back. Oh, you know what? I was more than a release for Dennis Rodman.
I thought it was he needs love again. Maybe more than structure he doesn't need love because when he said when Pippin came back, when even Jordan said when Pippin was gone, somebody said when Pippin was gone, Robin, MJ needed Robin. Yeah. Robin said when Pippin came back, I'm just back to being the third kind of like forgotten brother.
And I think that was him being like, I don't like I need love. I need attention. I need whatever. So I'm just going to go cold high, cold and hopefully you'll come rescue me or save me or love me or whatever.
I think that's definitely part of it. 100%. I think wanting to feel needed was definitely it. I also think there's something about knowing that they could get it done without him.
Knowing that he didn't have to put it all in. Like he comes to them when Scotty comes back and he goes, I need a vacation. Yeah. What does he need a vacation from?
This guy is someone who deals with mental issues, right? He has had extreme focus for this. However, many months stretch this guy is down, right? And that extreme focus gets them to start winning games, right?
Now Scotty's back. He's like, listen, I am fucking mentally ill. I can't sustain this. I need to blow off steam.
What is another way to not deal with your mental issues? Drink. Party self-medicade. Self-medicade.
I call self-medicade. That's what the partying is. It's not like watching girls pants. Like you're an NBA player.
You know, while he's with Carmen Electra, still dancing with the bitches. He's talking about other bitches. Please believe there's more than one bitch in that room. Oh, yo.
Jordan said, I'm not going to say what was happening to him. He's not going to be like, he was with his girlfriend. Hey, you think he might have been another dude in there too? No, no.
Anything. He's like, he's like, he's slogan. Impossible is nothing. With his rhizor.
And nothing was going to, was going to, like, weird out MJ. Yeah. So, so here's the dope thing. You know, it was great about these.
At first I watch these two episodes. I'm like, all right. I know we're excited about this thing, so we're going to hype it up a little bit more. Yeah.
And they weren't great because they were great undeniably, but sometimes when you're in the shadow of such a great thing, it's hard to appreciate the thing next to it. It's like, you see the great Pyramid of Giza. There's another pyramid there. That's not as big.
We don't even know the name of that one. Right. You know what I'm saying? There's two other ones that are dope that we don't know the names of because they're right there, but they're fucking pyramids, right?
Here's the thing that I thought was so dope. Like you were saying about Phil. Like Phil coached your soul. Yeah.
Like Phil found out what made you tick. Right. Right. And he got inside you.
Yeah. And I don't know. I presume this field did not have the closest relationship with Scotty. This is my assumption because it's Phil was in Scotty's soul.
Sky would never set out. Hmm. Sky would never set out. I don't think that he had, I think he understood Mike and he understood he didn't have to coach Mike.
Mike was going to give every little bit of it every single year. That's why he's the goat because it matters. It was practice regular seeing that he's going to empty the tent. You didn't need to motivate Mike.
He is not, he is a robot. He's going to get the fucking job done at whatever cost you have to manage Mike. You've got to manage the other pieces. Well, you know, he need to manage with Mike his soul.
You need to get him to trust his teammate. That's what makes you a champion. This whole offense is designed to you trust your teammates, bro. So many things I want to talk about.
That was such an important skill that both Phil and Jordan have, that they can recognize the strengths in people and how to bring it up. Okay. So it's like they read people so well. Like Jordan knows how far he can push everybody.
He knows what people he needs to push and what people he doesn't have to push. And it's like Phil does the same thing. So I think with that, I think Jordan was really interesting thing when they saw Jordan crime, when the other players talk about Jordan crying, when you got the trophies, we never saw that. We just saw a guy who was in a bad mood criticizing you hard on you, et cetera.
Singular focus that all he had. No positive emotions, no love and nothing like that. Plus in your balls, why aren't you doing this critical critical critical? So the job of Phil in a lot of ways was to manage everybody else's emotions around Jordan.
You're around someone who you know is better than you and you know when he criticizes you, he can because you're not as good as him. So how do you keep everybody else's self esteem up, right? One way might be getting everybody some touches and getting them to score a couple points and get a couple of assists. We're seeing that son, we're going to talk about Jerry Crosby and the motherfucking goat.
By the way, he got a memoir coming out. His wife isn't saying anything about this documentary because he wants all of Jerry's words to be spoken about him essentially. So he got a memoir coming out where he's going to give his thoughts. It's easier to read what he's saying than looking at him while he's talking about the fuck I look like monsters ink.
Yeah, it's bad. It's bad. I don't know how many but he's dead. But he's got a memoir apparently coming out.
So she's not talking any media right now. Like he's going to give his side of the story. But so what's fascinating about Jordan right? And Phil, et cetera, it's like Jordan had a singular focus.
In the high of his career, he's winning all these scoring championships. He's not made in the league. He was so singularly focused on winning a championship that he was going to sacrifice his potential greatness to get there, right? He's averaging 37 a game and he's willing to accept this new offense that's going to take the ball out of his hands and willing to help his teammate so his teammates can help him get to the promising.
He recognizes this and he leans into it. It's absolutely amazing. A Carmel Anthony could never right. Carmel Anthony is so stupid.
He could never see like if I did you guys see the interstitial with Carmel? Fast forward. You should see it as a fascinating looking to how retarded he is. He is one of the dumbest people.
I thought Draymond Green was one of the most stupid people. I just shook my head. I just shook my head. I can't believe.
So he is the IQ of a crocodile. That's what he is. He is one crocodile. I need to eat and that's all Carmel and I was like.
How fuck do you know exactly that? He goes. He is still speaking hood for some reason. Every other NBA player learned how to do their fucking media voice and mellows still like.
I was watching Robin. He's saying I got a job. I was like. What is that?
I was like he is talking to him. He goes. I was watching. I was watching.
I don't care about these games. He's getting me nothing to me. He is born out there. I was like yo.
Just the realest mother fucker. I love this guy. I was like are you that fucking stupid. You played a lot of me in this game?
You played a lot of me in this game. You played a lot of me in this game. You played a lot of me in this game. You played a lot of me in this game.
He is like no. I wanted to learn from him. Then he learned that and brought it into a team. What is a team?
It's a tribe. That's all it is. Especially a basketball team. 15 people.
Stand in circles. I'm going to instill in you guys. You are a family. You are a tribe.
This is everything. If you get a team to play together and you got MJ and you get him to buy in. Sure. You are the chief of the tribe.
This is still your tribe. You take great players and that's what elevates everything. He had to convince MJ that taking the ball out of his hands would get him what he ultimately wanted. MJ did not trust him.
Even the documentary he says he is like with five seconds left I didn't want the ball to build a winnix and stands. He is so funny. He is right. He got him to trust his teammates for the greater good.
This is the thing I thought was so fascinating about Jordan. Jordan if it's the military, Jordan wants to win so bad that his whole philosophy is don't ask. It don't matter what Jordan has to say. It don't matter what Jordan feels about homosexuality, about trans, about any of these things.
He don't care about what Robin does off the court because he knows Robin is going to bring it on the court. He can turn a blind eye. Don't ask. I don't care what Scott does with his personal life.
I don't care what John Pat is. None of y'all do. If y'all fuck around on the court it's a problem if you deliver on the court we are good. It was so cool to see someone with a singular focus.
He didn't coach your soul. Jordan asked for the most out of you and he rewarded the people who gave the most. What is his face? Phil, coach your soul.
Phil found a way in there. I like people who know how to handle greatness and know how to bring greatness out of everybody and get you into that level. Phil solidified his go ship with this documentary. Not like everybody was like he inherited great players.
Yes he inherited great players. There's no question. You can't knock that. But managing the ego is the coach's job.
Even Rick Carlisle who is the number one exes and owes guy. I read a book where he recently said that exes and owes is 10% of being a pro-head coach. My problem is Rick Carlisle said about himself. My problem is I don't know how to relate to these guys as well.
That's the most important part of the job. So Phil, he got the exes and owes. And the other 90% dude? Brilliant.
It's got to be a leader of a country. Dude 100% great leadership. You know what I realize? I'm sitting there.
I'm going to say Jordan, listen to this motherfucker. Yes Jordan got along with Doug because they both had the same fire. I think Jordan Meyer did Doug just kind of said whatever happened. But he also kissed Jordan's ass.
And then Jordan was having this incredible success under Doug so you were definitely going to relate some of that to him. You know what I thought was really telling him about the relationship? What do you call him? What do you call Doug Collins?
I don't know. Dougie. If that's a coach to me that you really respect as a coach, you're not giving him a nickname. That's a peer.
It was one of the sniffers. Yeah. It was another sniffer. Even if he wasn't a full-on sniffer.
You're not above me if you're a doggy. It was a sniffer. You're just getting the ball to Jordan and get the fuck out the way. That was the play every play, right?
Which is cool. But Phil had this different energy, right? And Jordan didn't even like Phil when he came in. Yeah.
But I was like, why the fuck did he end up listening to him? Yes, don't get me wrong. Phil knows how to get in your head with his end. But what did Phil have to Jordan didn't?
Jewelry. Oh, we got two with the Knicks. And one with that CBA team. Say what it is, it doesn't matter.
I did not know that. We didn't know that he played for the Albany. There was a CBA team that coached. So he got two with the Knicks, right?
And then he coached the team in the CBA and he got one with them. So when he's telling Jordan, this is what you got to do. I'm not telling you this as someone who has as many rings as you, which is zero. I'm telling you as someone who's done it as a player and as a coach.
I know some shit, motherfucker. Do you want these? Is this what you, because I know how to get these. You don't.
If you did, you'd have them. And the fact that he coached in Puerto Rico and had to deal like a language barrier craziness going over there. He can get fucking heads-cut off. He's the whole business relationship with killing chickens in Puerto Rico.
No, no, no. Chickens kill each other. You cut the chickens. That's the fucking mayor doing it.
So they shot the road. They shot the road. They shot the fucking leg. And it was the energy when the conquistadors came.
I was like, just let them walk over you all. It's not happening again. You're not stealing from us anymore. It's a foul.
Yo, nuts. That's the only punishment was you can't come to games anymore for the rest of the season. Home games. Home games.
I'm assuming you're not traveling. So for the rest of this year, just sit it out. You almost killed somebody. That's crazy.
That's crazy. But you know what's interesting about the end-day thing? There was a tipping point with thrusting Phil. Okay.
And it was the finals against the Lakers in the closeout game. Remember when you talked about Feynn Paxton? Phil told him, John's open every time given the ball. Who's open?
Who's open? And this is such a genius thing. You let someone come up with the conclusion themselves. And now you're not telling them what to do.
And then there's a guy you don't tell what to do. Now you mention it. I'll leave the same. My Paxton used to go to Ali's camp a lot and he said Ali's coach.
Oh my God. Why am I forgetting to fuck his coaches? Angela Dundee. Angela would never tell Ali what to do.
He asked Ali, what should we do now? We could work on some apps. He's like, I just got to deal. Let's work on some apps.
Now, he knows that we got to work on apps. But he knows you don't tell him how about Ali to do the apps. I'm not Ali's going to do the work. Jordan's going to do the work.
You don't got to motivate them to work. The other guy's got to motivate probably. But even Jordan says in the doc, he's like Scottie will fight for you. He just wants to know that you're on his side.
That's another little dig. That's another little dig. Jordan's like, I don't need nobody on my side. I'll swing on anybody.
I thought his big brother, little brother thing. That's my little brother. He just knows big brother is here. And then we'll fight.
Don't call me little brother. I'm one of the best 50 players in the league. That's what Scottie was. He was most accomplished with a brother.
And a testament to Scottie Pippen on a certain level to Swali or ego. I mean, look, this is how he wins chips. And I'm the little brother. That's fine.
I'm the little brother. You guys can criticize me. All you want to sidekick blah, blah, blah. I'm one of the 50 greatest ever.
I got five rings, six rings. What do y'all got? James Harden should look at this documentary right now. And he should go, man, I could have had fucking six rings right now.
Yo. James Harden should look at this fucking documentary. Russell Westbrook should look at this documentary right now. Now Kevin Durant does not have a leadership and a focus that Jordan does.
He just doesn't have it. He's not the alpha that Jordan is. But Kevin Durant, sorry, James Harden could have been Scottie Pippen. And he chose to have his own team.
And Scottie Pippen on his own team would have been nearly as much beta to anybody. When Jordan left, Scottie was the guy. And he seemed to like it. But he was like, look, this is the fucking greatest.
There's an unstoppable force. Hey, if me being little brother gets his rings, I'm a little brother. I'm gonna wrap in Fante. Whatever I mean, I'm a little brother.
Do you think it's, do you think because they weren't making as much money, it was easier to value the ring? Maybe. And also when you're making more money, you got more Yes, man, you got more hangers on. You got more people in your ear.
Yeah, you got people DMing you all this kind of shit because like, it's almost like in the mafia when they were only getting one two year sentences for, you know, gambling or racket, or not a racketeer and it was like gambling stuff or like stealing something off the back of a truck. Like everybody was going with the code, right? They weren't telling. Right.