The Last Glass of Rosé: Mary Alice Stephens on Emotional Bottoms & 14 Years Sober

When Mary Alice Stephens took her last drink, it wasn’t in a jail cell or rehab. It was at a sunny pool party with a giant glass of rosé in hand.In this episode, Mary, author of Uncorked—shares the story of the blackout that became her emotional bottom. No DUI. No dramatic intervention. Just a quiet, devastating realization: “I don’t want to parent like this.”Abby and Mary dive into:The “in-between” bottom so many high-functioning women experienceWine culture, sophistication myths, and sober avoidanceThe witching hour and why alcohol feels like emotional latexPeople-pleasing, mom friendships, and navigating social life soberPhysical withdrawal, raw nerves, and early sobriety lonelinessWhat “emotional sobriety” actually meansLosing friends, evolving identity, and becoming safe & predictableWhat changes after 1 year… 5 years… 14 years alcohol-freeThis is an honest, nuanced conversation about motherhood, identity shifts, and the long game of personal growth without alcohol.If you’ve ever thought, “Nothing tragic has happened… so am I really that bad?” — this episode is for you.Grab your copy of Uncorked hereFollow Mary on IG hereVisit Mary's website here