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It's it's awesome super fun time paranormal adventure show seriously And we are back I think maybe we started this is new this is well. It's kind of new episode We have got a full crew tonight. Welcome to the Wisps show. This is our post Christmas I just saw Star Wars 10 minutes ago episode well, maybe not 10 minutes ago spoilers There might be spoilers.

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That was definitely well What better way to start a paranormal podcast than have a ghost knock Microspy tree Anyway, I am your host castle straight across from me in the recliner drooling on himself because he's so comfortable we have are always present lurched Yes, it's a sciatica the recliner helps and next to me on my left I've got ten the slob whisper the one and only what's happening and we have the an as usual hello Who is trying really hard to get a nickname of Raven So she's like this really hideous plastic Raven and attached to her my stand And then he hadn't accidentally like he tried to commit suicide. It's like he tried to cook slippers throughout so it's kind of sad Raven Yeah, we're still gonna call you Raven. The best you're gonna get said in your strip Well, we'll know we'll have them turn that old lady into a Raven at one point. That's that is true And as always we have silent dawn with us hello.

Oh, hey, he's got a microphone and we turn the volume up this time And last but certainly not least we have brandy with us. Oh, no, no peaches or peaches We I have our time to never I go either way. Yeah, you do damn it. No, I don't know I don't anyway This is our post Christmas edition.

It is December 26th Hopefully I'll get this episode up in a relatively timely manner I'm not gonna like it might be a very short episode tonight because I usually have an agenda that things we're gonna talk about and I did not require one because it's been Christmas. Well, I gave you homework, but you didn't do it Yeah, I know well my personal life is a mess right now and we've got Christmas going on and we've got excuses are like bubbles Everyone has one in the all-s need maybe yours does I do have a show game for listeners to play I keep forgetting to mention this but for those of you at home that want to play the anyways game get out of pen and paper Right now and anytime castle says anyways make a tick mark damn you Anyway Or variation of anyway on we go so since we talked to you as last we've had a couple investigations and actually Colton of our investigators bought a new toy actually got a new toy for Christmas the obelisk 5 and For those who've been on the chunk hunt with us and seen the obelisk 3 the obelisk 5 is actually kind of an interesting device They have the obelisk 4 I'm pretty sure it's the 3 yeah That's all those 3 that chunk it has and it's all those 3's been the really popular one They came out with an obelisk X or 10 whatever you want to call it And now one was kind of I don't think that one really took off that when you can actually go online and hook it Your computer and you could actually go in a program dictionary to say what you wanted to say And there's a lot of concerns and questions about it because basically people were saying that you could program what it would say What it would say it and so it kind of it had some credibility issues I mean really the obelisk in and of itself You're gonna find people who really buy into it and think it works and you're gonna find people who really hate it and don't think it works at all I also just want to quickly mention to while we're on the subject Correction to one of the names that we mentioned last week. It's not Alika. It's Alisa.

Oh, no, I'm gonna call her Alika from here on It's Alika. No she she spelled it out phonetically. It's Alisa. I thought that I'm still calling her Alika.

It's her parents fall for She picked it on almost 5. Yeah, I saw that she also I believe got a ghost box. I think so spirit box. Yeah.

Yeah And spirit box is one of those pieces of women that if you're looking to get a get into ghost hunting and start Probably a couple of things I'd recommend be a ghost box run off the bat. They can get one. They're not terribly expensive Call of dent get one what's that things are horrid? Yeah, they're not my favorite.

I don't use them very often But you know that you investigate with me. I have one and I don't use it. It gives me the great It's instant feedback you get instant results. We don't use them on our residential investigation But it's fun when we do like the chum-tum to hunt something all these other investigations But not residential just because they have shown us a tendency to pull in some of the more the negative stuff Versus the you know in a way, it's kind of like using the Ouija board It's it's not the same it's apples to oranges, but it is kind of like summoning the negative right energy The other device I like that's relatively expensive probably gonna hurt you, but it's the K2 I love the K2 that's one of my favorite go to K2 is the one piece of equipment that I will pull out each and every time just because It's consistent and you can be bunk really easy It's a little bit to record if I don't yeah, if I don't want to carry around a ton of stuff I will it'll be a k2 to the gym record I brought me new piece of equipment by the way It's from digital bouncing the same folks who make the obelisk five and it's a white noise generator And I need to play with it But the theory behind it is that it gives spirits some white noise to work with to help create eVPs And since I usually run investigations anymore with two digital recorders because I'm a gwump for punishment I'm listening to um teen hours of audio from an investigation I'm gonna try it with both recorders and see if I get any Difference of my starting a lot more eVPs when when using it versus the one not using it So it'll be fun to play with and see what happens I saw something interesting a couple weeks ago too where I was watching one of those ghost shows and they were using Vacuum tube transistor radios and just kind of playing with dial a little bit in between the stations and using that as the same sort of thing As generating white noise kind of like a low-tech spirit box.

It's one of you guys never heard of anything like that I have it makes me want to I mean I've seen transistor radio kits on the maker.com website for relatively cheap And I like you know making electronics and gadget and stuff so I'm thinking about picking up a kit I know a pair of no sis which is kind of a local paranormal group They have experimented they do a lot with the fear factory That's kind of one of their locations that they have some connections with they do a lot of investigations there And I know they've experimented in conversations. I've had with them using pink noise What the heck is pink noise? They have about four or five different types of noise. There's white noise There's pink noise.

There's great noise. I think I know what white noise is and to be honest with you when they tell me about pink noise They explain to me what it was and I would love to explain it for listeners if I can't exactly what pink noise is It's kind of a variation of white noise though. I mean it's the same kind of mindless Hisp it's got more of a something to it. That's a technical term by the way See my favorite investing tool is my sunny handicam.

I like to record everything I like to have not only the audio aspect of it But the visual as well and I'm glad you do that because as much as I can sit down and listen to hours of audio I can burn through audio like crazy, but a video I'm way too ADHD for video See I have a hard time doing just audio because like I wouldn't have anything to focus on my mind wandering with a video I'm actually like you know actually able to focus on the audio as well as what's going on screen You know what I do when I listen to audio And anybody who follows us on Instagram wispjutah or my personal Instagram knows that I do yeah, it's a tenured I've got I do model tanks plastic model tanks, and I know it sounds really nerdy, but it's Chair no, it's my broke my chair Anyway I'll just sit there and build these tanks and I know it's like something that like 14 girls do But it's it's something that focuses my mind. I can just build with my hands while I'm just listening Well, you do act a lot like a 14 year old most of the time. Yeah, I know You see my favorite piece of equipment is myself because I don't have all those crap gadgets You know actually my favorite piece of equipment is yourself too because I just want to stick an LED to your head Okay, well they say I'm ready, but they look at me. They look at me.

They look at me. Yeah, but Yeah, it's actually really nice having brandy investing if I actually did an investigation just this how long do we do that investigation What one? The residential the residential that we did with Colton Two weeks the first almost two weeks ago was the day before we recorded last podcast That's right. But we did one that night.

We didn't have brandy with us and it was in a sense It was really fun not having brandy because we were just kind of like groping around in the dark but at same time No There's no groping You said it good What happens to the basement while groping around the dark stays in the basement? It was consensual No, the fact that investigations because Dan is it was really nice house and denter shoes off It's a win the basement. The basement wasn't quite finished yet And so my favorite part was watching Dan step on carpet packs. Yeah I think he has socks on so Colton had the obelisk five he didn't have the obelisk five And there's actually some really cool features.

I like about the obelisk five Yeah, um, what was your favorite feature? Well, the thing that I noticed about the obelisk five is that uh, if you had it on dictionary mode It would get a lot of just random words spitting out at a really high rate I say but more so like I know the obelisk three kicks out words every couple of minutes But this was like spit out like almost yeah, I almost want to say sentence except for it wasn't it was just random words like bread soda My favorite part though is it was like bread so to touch Hell There really was like I almost wish I had the audio clicks I was listening to the other day So I actually I did watch a youtube video before coming here And uh, there was a video that I watched about someone that had just purchased an obelisk five And uh, she had it on the uh phonetic mode and not the dictionary mode And it was almost like an evolution where whatever entity she was talking to kind of had a difficult time using it first Like just monosyllables trying to say like I am and then after a while as it started to evolve Um, it figured out how to use that phonetic almost as if as fair using it was learning It's learning how to use it by the end of the video, you know They edited out all the the blank spaces in between but uh, it starts spitting out like almost full senses Complete senses like you know, hope the little boy and it was actually pretty clear So I think uh, you just kind of need that time to to work with it and to uh, to let it evolve I'd be curious to test it out. Uh kind of in a well with brandy first off because she can actually see what's going on See if what we're getting is actually legitimate or not But I noticed I had like a true false mode. Yeah, where basically uh It would tell you if something was true or false, um, and give you You could hit the true or false and brandy's looking up at my ceiling strangely.

Is there something in my house going on? I'm ready Just get a twin Okay, for those listeners who don't know why don't you explain what's going on in my house? Randy Well, cuz all has a pair of twins in his home. They kind of plane around upstairs and I can hear them kind of giggling a bit Yeah, there's actually five spirits in my house.

There's two twins. Uh, there's a spirit attached to my five-year-old daughter Um, and then there's two adult females. Um, and this is the fun part of hanging off brandy's because I'll start staring off somewhere And and I was like what well, that's actually when we talked about what happened to family tree is the same thing because she was like Not doing anything. I'm like, what's going on?

That's about the time I got chucked out Yeah, my attention's found really short. So I tend to listen to several different things at once and they don't know what's going on Well, and one of the other things we don't ever really talk about I don't think we've ever talked about this in the podcast is Brandi now then gets kind of premonitions of things that are gonna happen. She actually started getting some yesterday. Is that okay?

Talk about this? Yeah, okay. Um, did you ask me? I don't care You're permitted.

I'm still I'm still waiting till this podcast. We're gonna give you your Christmas left-ance Wow My top liver and I get an old lap dance. My Christmas presents screw you guys. I'm Karen home.

You already got your lap dance Anyway That's something I don't want to reenact my dreams Don't worry. I've got five video cameras. We can tape this It's not gonna happen up there right now. We can do it infrared to be on youtube right too.

Yeah, amateur. Yeah Sick ass and I know what red tube is sick. Castle where to bore at style speedo with a okay So I pulled up a webpage. Oh, you're gonna start.

I was talking about yeah, but we'll go back to office life By the way, this episode is gonna be pretty free for because being christmas and all I really did prepare much So we're just chatting today. Yeah, so promise in the new year. We will have actual agendas again Yeah, it's been really busy anyway, but brandy has had premonitions in the past Um one that she had was almost a year ago was basically me being attacked in a basement I heard actually by her it was a dream. She had and like talking Spanish She was she'd lunge that you're trying to talk you right and it was actually really interesting because we had the whole family tree incident Which I think we talked about either the last podcast with the podcast before And it actually happened pretty much as described other than the Spanish part But actually earlier in the night Lucy the demon princess in the basement of family tree was speaking Spanish and Italian and a bunch of other languages Throughout the night until recently if I class night brandy contact this and just said that she's kind of darker premonitions of stuff going on Um, so we're kind of like red alert if you will well, that's kind of cheesy didn't it?

Anyway So, uh, basically myself and lurch tend to run into places where there's Run into the fire. Yeah, run into the fire by the best description if there's a really problem area where people leave we go in It's dark. Okay. I'm in that part people are getting tossed off balconies.

I'm in send me a people speaking latin And their heads are rotating as they're spitting out p-su. That's your solution. I'm coming out there Yeah, anyway, so that's kind of what's going on. So when I see brandy staring at the roof of my or my ceiling I'm like, okay, what's up who's upstairs?

Um, anyway, sorry back to level five So I pulled up a web page with It's actually ghost stop and it talks about some of the different features of oblice five that go stop calm Ghost up calm. Yeah, I've actually gotten some pretty good equipment from as far as i'm all my gear from that They're my current favorite. I like them and I like the ghost center store. I've yeah Go center store.

I like the owner of the ghost center store. That's where I get most of my stuff So there's a dictionary mode, which is what you know the oblice three usually does Um, it's the oblice five has I think over 2000 preset 2048 predefined words Um, but as we're saying, you know, it seems almost too sensitive where if you're walking I mean I was playing with a little bit when we're at the residential Thank you said about one point. It's magic. Yeah, exactly I mean just spitting out these really random words that don't really seem to have anything to do with it So from maybe it's overly sensitive maybe for me if if I sat down with it and I'm asking questions and I'm getting answers that Have anything to do with my question.

I would probably have faith in it, but every time I've used them or seen them used They're usually spitting out 90 percent of the time stuff has nothing to do with anything And that's kind of why I'm on the fences because it seems like that's kind of in my experience But I've also seen it and chunk of seems to do really well with it Um, I've seen him actually get relatively relevant Yes words out of it. Yeah, uh, when he uses it more so than I do when I use them when I use them I will be like a place like a bit of grismo. I'll get words like mark a lounger We can freeze an arc He was getting like store and he held up the you know, there's a photo of him holding up the obliss three and General store What is your name circus? We've also got the video that I posted at the bensigress mill where I was telling yes, uh, sponari about how I heard some noises or something and I said, you know, someone was whispering I said you need to stop whispering um Unless you're spare then you keep whispering and I heard people start giggle and I said, you know, I was telling him I said that's how I know it was a live person and at the exact same time that I said person the obvious that person as well Yeah, I was actually there for that.

That was kind of me fact that Did you post that on our facebook page? It is on our facebook page. Yes, we need to post that on our youtube too So there's also the draw mode draws blocks across the screen. That was kind of interesting too I if I remember right when colton had the draw mode up it kind of runs Like boxes across the screen But then it could be manipulated for the boxes to change color draws boxes across the blocks across the screen and colors derived from environmental readings It's a different method of itc Draw mode typically draws static or gray blocks in lower energy areas, right?

So you can kind of see what's going on with these things. What is your opinion on the obelisk? Okay, I think it's crap Have you actually seen spirits try and manipulate it try and I've seen them try But I think that the vocabulary that it has isn't enough for them to try to see what they actually want to say And that's always been my kind of concern is I don't know how they can manipulate through energy to get specific words There's a energy mode Similar to in a siloscope shows the wave How they're trying to manipulate the energy around them and see I think that might be more interesting from a Ghosting standpoint because that one's one that's like specific. It's trying to get an exact word out It's like a k2.

Yeah, like if you approach a electrical outlet that's live you'll see a spike Um, see there's also a log mode which lists all the words that have been uh voiced during dictionary mode emotion mode Uses using the built-in accelerometer this mode displays motion fluctuations enabling small movements to be visualized Again, it kind of looks like a siloscope But I think it senses more vibrations that one I'd be curious on because I use some jf Gf Actually made my geophones and the thing with the geophones is if I'm like in a basement with a concrete floor Um, I have a lot more faith in them than if I'm well Let's go back to the Ben's at grismo for instance If I'm on like the sicker for the Ben's at grismo or it's kind of a rickety wooden floor If I've got a bunch of people tromping around I have a hard time with emotion stuff because you don't know what's uh people tromping around and what's actually In my opinion a geophone is absolutely worthless. Um on any kind of floor that is not solid again and going back to you know My go-to's is just your own body a k2 I've had enough experience with those that I believe in those and a recorder See but the children in asylum 49 they love the geophones at least the experience that we had on um Because that's right I like using that I usually won't put it anywhere on an unstable surface I'll put it on like a concrete floor and actually I believe I have video of this as well at the uh union station I put it my phone down on concrete floor and I had several of us stopped really hard on the floor next to it I didn't set off and then after minute or two you'd see the light my phone lighting up and making the noise I remember that I do remember that was that in the tunnels or was that the same? That was in the tunnels before I say I got a really cool EVP out of those tunnels So there's also a phonetic mode Uh, which as I mentioned in the youtube video Uh the person that had the obelisk 5 set it on phonetic mode And it was uh just a small building blocks of speech And it was almost like an evolution where at the beginning of the video the entity that she was trying to speak to communicate with I was having a hard time communicating and uh after a while kind of learned how to manipulate the energy of the obelisk And uh by the end of the videos using full sentences that are really really clear So that kind of piqued my interest I'd be curious to play around more with the phonetic mode and uh watch that evolution There's a true false mode. Um, I guess that's kind of like like says you could ask yes or no questions I guess um Proximity mode kind of like a radar detector in uh, since it's levels of energy and the proximity Um kind of shows in what direction uh, there is energy coming from So I hope that answers uh your question, Elisa or alica is uh, a meager and castler going to call you now Yeah, it's alica forever So the thing I like about the phonetic mode is what it's supposed to do is turn off the onboard dictionary So it's not actually pulling from that those like pre-program like 2000 words, whatever It's supposed to be what the spirit is actually telling you what they're saying exactly So if I got one that's probably the most I'd use the most In fact, uh, I was watching an episode of ghost adventures last night And uh, they actually had someone that was using an obelisk five and she had uh, you know video recordings and audio recordings on her laptop That she was showing zac biggens zac baggens, you know, like colon castles Zach baggens And uh, and the obelisk five was using her name and her name was something really unique maritza Like alica Yeah, like like alissa No, it was maritza was the name of the investigator and the obelisk five was using her word It was using her name maritza, you know, which is something that you wouldn't find in a dictionary So I thought that was kind of cool You know, that's one of those things in fact, I think the obelisk five is on my two-by list I don't know how soon it's gonna be It's only about 350 bucks Yeah, that's right That's why it's on my two-by in the future list But I'd be curious to sit down with it sit down with brandy and a location and just see Well, you know, at least uh, alissa is gonna be coming on a future investigation with us So that is true We'll have to make sure that uh, if you're nice to her, maybe she'll let you use it If you know how to use her name correctly, if you know how to pronounce it, alissa I don't know if I can make myself do that I'm just trying to get a Jacob's ladder, if you want to see Annie go crazy, get one of those I want to build a small Jacob's ladder I do want to build one of those as well In the meantime though, what I did buy is a little plasma ball Well, hold on before we got grapes in the microwave I did get grapes in the microwave Before we talk about your plasma ball, let's tell the listeners the story of Annie and the Jacob's ladder That was a really fun experience I actually had two plasma balls Go ahead Yeah, you do Wow Put a blue Not a lot of money So uh, it's decal It's the key to the night went down to the This is lurch with the exhibit We are not a downtown satellite Uh, we were we were there for an exhibit and I'd never been there before so she started showing me around And we got to the I think the science room And there was a tall science Science There was a tall Jacob's ladder there It was about probably a five feet tall Did you get blinded by science?

I was blinded by science actually Um, it was just about five feet tall and I'm sitting there and I look over at Brandon I go Hey, do you think Annie can manipulate this? And as soon as I said that like it's when I finished the sentence She actually grabbed the charge on the jig of the ladder and held it at the top for like 30-40 seconds And then she didn't leave it alone the rest of the time we were there And then she frequently goes there and plays with it, sorry Yeah, in fact as you were talking I just googled how to build a Jacob's ladder and it's extremely easy to build Yeah, they're super easy, my friends actually have built So I have my friends that are engineers so I could build one But in the meantime until I actually go about doing that I went with a plasma ball which should be here next week Essentially the same thing creates energy and what I want to see is If spirits can actually because you know when we touch a plasma ball The electricity kind of jumps to your fingers Is that any different from like a test of the coil? It's to me it looks like it's essentially the same thing It's just got the globe around it Yeah, so the electricity is just shooting up to the globe and you know When you touch it you see the electricity kind of focusing on where you're touching it Yeah, so what I want to do is set one of these up for two reasons one Obviously it's energy so it should give them something to kind of feed off of But then to see if they can actually touch it and like manipulate the energy as well We can use a lava lamp as a as another form of investigation You know, I don't think so I think I remember those are like always the things in the basement You know where you'd go and smoke parade Yeah, I didn't play with the plasma ball and watch the lava lamp And it's a lot about you That's a lot about you As silly as it seems like I'm obviously not the first person to thought of this Because I found several YouTube videos of people actually like using the plasma balls And energy source to use their spare box instead of using like an e-amp up You know, I've actually thought about it But it's one of those things that I think about when we're doing something else And I totally forget about it until like six months later in November again So I'm actually glad that you thought about it and didn't forget about it No, because I've been thinking about building like a Tesla coil or a jig of platter Yeah, and for some reason I just popped my head last night actually I'm like plasma ball and I went found one for like $17 on Amazon So you know what you build or you get the plasma ball build the jig of platter See I kind of want the plasma ball because it's to me it seems like it would be a little bit safer You know, it's interesting One of the fun things about ghost hunting is if you are kind of a nerd like Can you slobwhisper or lurch? I just like electronics, man.

I like building stuff I buy yes, you're a model. I like trying to kids. I built my own geophones I'm just making fun. I'm making fun.

I built my own e-ampump But if you get creative and start looking around on things like how to build your own Jacob's ladder And if you do any electrocutors, not my fault. Yeah, we cannot be responsible Be able to help you electrocute yourself building a Jacob's ladder But it's kind of fun sometimes building some of your own ghost equipment. I know that lurch is built e-ampump What you explain what an e-ampump is? It's just an electromagnet.

Electromagnet you get one of those small little motors that you had playing with growing up And you fasten a magnet to the top so that when it starts spinning It creates the electromagnetism of the electricity of the motor and the magnet to magnet If I can spin it out, I can't freakin talk now. D'er But I had it wired up so there's a circuit with an LED light so that when you close the... or open... no close the circuit What is in your little...

It's Coke! I got Coke. Yes, I was about to fall asleep and now I'm getting El hyped up on caffeine. Subberting years, bong resin still present.

Seriously though. But no, it's very simple to make. I just completed mine with an LED light so you can see the light come on when you turn the switch and They're simple to make unless you tell your engineer friends that you want to make one. It took us like two weeks to build two of them because they...

It's simple. We just have to do this and they wanted to just go all out and make it like the biggest best thing they could. No. I mean they weren't great but I bought the project box.

I bought the bigger one. That's the odd logic box too. My bottom one is I bought the bigger one so there's too much space in it and all you hear when you have it I use it once to kind of do my audio recording. And when I went back and listened to it for 45 minutes I heard it was...

Well you had way years down with pennies too I think. Yeah I waited out pennies until I got the smaller project box that's probably about six by four and then about four inches deep as well. I think it was smaller. You know it's just large enough to hold the motor with the magnet on the top and hold the two AA batteries and then I had the LED light poked up through a hole that I drilled on the top and a switch right above that and was able to have it all self-contained.

My first year talking with a ready for a kurti joke and everybody's just really quiet. Oh my god. I was just waiting for a beaker to explode. Yeah I'm out of dirty.

But by the way speaking of a EM pumps Brandi can you explain to us the theory behind Hetl's works I know that you know how they work. EM pumps okay so for Annie. By the way we should probably I know we've explained it in the past but for those who are new let's explain who Annie is. Um Annie is my great great grandmother who passed on and now she's attached to stuff to me since I was born so she's been here all my life but um she's also part of the wisp scheme to be upset.

I was going to say I've actually seen Annie on occasion and I've cut a lot of BBP's of Annie and Annie is knocking or it went off my Christmas tree as we record. I've heard Annie and I've seen her open the front door before. Yeah she's an intelligent heart. Yeah she's awesome when I think I've got something in my house I text Brandi and say say do you know.

In fact just kind of a quick story uh the investigation we did a couple weeks ago I went back on the 22nd to kind of help cleanse the house because the homeowner was getting bit after our last investigation so I went back and had my k2 with me my k2 is just going crazy and I had Brandi be with me. Brandi can't see Annie and so I said what's that not my k2 and she kind of looks like I don't know and so I sent uh Peaches a text and said where's Annie at and she says me back the text goes she was gonna go check out your house and see how things are down there so it ended up with Annie setting up my k2 as she has been known to do on more than a few occasions. Yeah she's funny like that. She doesn't know what it's going to do.

Anyway sorry back to EM pumps. She uses it to absorb energy um if she's trying to communicate or she feels I guess essentially low on her spirit energy she kind of absorbs that to um you know be able to communicate better with everyone she loves she loves them she thinks they're great if she's feeling low or feeling sad she'll sit by one if I have one which Tim has given me one to use for her so kind of the prevailing theory is is it basically anything that creates an EM field such as an EM pump or a fan or a TV anything that's gonna set your k2 off basically spirits can use and kind of absorb that energy and it's kind of a corny example but it's almost like ghost food um and so if you're at a investigation and you get the impression that whatever you're speaking with has got kind of limited energy you can throw an EM pump out there and it will oftentimes help them function. Well that's also the theory behind like a jig of ladder or the... Well see I'm wondering how a plasma ball dicks I think a plasma ball maybe uh may give a ton of energy I hesitate to use the one I have at work because I like having a job but I wonder how a taser would function just kind of dry firing a taser to see how that would uh would help as far as energy goes.

Well I think I think that's another plasma ball next week I can always test it out you know Andy's willing to play with my maw. Wow. Wow. One day one day we're gonna go whole episode without being PG-13.

Yeah that's gonna happen. I think it's gonna go to like NC-7-3 one day. You want to show without PG-13 you're gonna have the end talking about yourself an hour. No no I can rip one off.

Yeah Dan is like then or they're just consuming raspberry sticks like a mad woman's faction instead of everyone. I can't get a word in it twice. Okay well we'll be quite friends. What's your favorite piece of paranormal equipment?

Well I told you twice. You said the K2. Is there anything else that you're like that's on your list that you want to buy? My digital recorder would already have that.

That's at K2 and it's a reporter. Yes. Nothing else. If you had a dream piece of equipment Dan what would your dream piece of equipment be?

If I said here's a blank check Dan go buy your dream piece of equipment what would you buy? That'd be brandy. She would buy me? No I mean I would just be able to see then.

That's not a piece of equipment that you could purchase. I had everything that I want. Okay. Do you have a sign that Dan?

Exactly. Dan how about you? What piece of equipment would you buy if you had unlimited bondage? I don't know there.

Awfulst 5 seems pretty interesting. Lurch did we talk about this like a couple of episodes ago? We might have. That's someone else come back to me.

Come back to you? Yeah. This is gonna be interesting since brandy can see and hear everything. If you could have one piece of equipment what would it be?

She doesn't need anything. She doesn't like it. I don't need anything. We're talking about guest equipment then yeah nothing but there's other equipment to my company.

I'm gonna change my answer. It would be fun to get a point of view camera that I could wear on my head. Do you like your GoPro? I have some of those if you want to borrow one.

Okay. I remember my answer. I remember you asked me a couple episodes ago it was a REM pod. A REM pod?

I think that was pretty fun. I'd be curious to see how well those work. I was reading an article the other day actually about the REM pod and the guy brought up some very interesting theories as to how accurate they are how they work versus how ghosts work in theory. I'm not entirely certain that they are that viable piece of equipment.

What is a REM pod? It just detects levels of electromagnet energy. It's kind of like in my own. Like a K2 but it's got lights on it so when you come close to the antenna it sets off the sound and sets off lights.

Do you have one in your millimeter Dan? Yes I do. I've got one in my millimeter. It's antenna with it.

It's got all the little colored LEDs and as you come closer to it it sets it off. After reading the article on how viable the REM pod is and I look back on all the investigations we've done and we've done a lot of investigations. I think mine has got set off two times maybe. I don't think mine's ever gotten set off.

I think that's one of the next pieces of equipment I'm going to get actually is a millimeter because it has the... I would do the millimeter with the REM pod in it because it's about the same price. You get all the features. You get the temperature gauge, you get the K2, you get the REM pod features, you get the delights, the noises, bells, whistles.

I did buy anything the other day about a moonstone. What does the moon stand out? A lot of stuff you have to read about. There's a couple different ones so it depends on what you want but the one I got.

You can use with meditation it helps enhance meditation. That's what I got it for mainly. I don't remember what else it is. I have an answer for you.

I already have the equipment that I want. This is my magic chair. Aha, that's right. The magic chair.

And it was freezing. I think we actually... You know what? Before we end tonight since we're at my house I'm curious to see if any of the other chairs I have do the same thing.

I'm going to play musical chairs. I'm going to play musical chairs. Sit in all of these chairs. That's what you're not hours.

And interestingly enough I think we talked about this briefly in a past episode. I've got a bunch of chairs. They're old chairs from a church and they're like... They're really ugly.

They're like hunter orange and they're really ugly and cold and hard. But when Brandy sits on him or at least sits on the one her ability is like shut off like a light switch. Because it came from a church. It's been blessed.

It's a holy chair. Are you saying Brandy's evil? Is that what you're trying to say? Oh well I went my roosterine in my city and I didn't say that you were evil.

Castle said that you were evil. I didn't say you were evil. You're just cold or evil. I think you just cold or evil.

No. Those items have been blessed. It doesn't do them. But I'm not sure.

I don't know. Anyway, beaker what would your item be? Okay so I can't limit it to just one because I'm retarded that way. I have this huge list.

I would first off. So go ahead and record it. Yeah. I'd be the first to admit that I'm slightly special.

You said that last week when you went over the whole mentally ill. No mental health issues. That's why I'm part of it. I believe the term was I'm a chair.

I'm a chair. He said I was a permanent fixture which chairs not so that just proves that I have mental health issues. That's the training. Yeah.

Okay so first off I would go with one of those really expensive thermal imaging cameras with video capabilities. So I can actually record. Oh that would be cool. Second I would buy a better night vision camera than I have.

I already picked out a Sony that has like the night shot. It's like a $1,500 camera. Something kind of like a Colt man. And then I would also have this other device that I'm looking at like.

I should probably clarify for those who are listening. Colt is one of our investigators. He's been on some of the chunk of hunts but he does a lot of camera work. I just know that we mentioned several times in the episode I probably should explain to Colt.

Sorry, go ahead. So besides the video equipment there's this new device that Huff paranormal is actually called the Portal. And it doesn't sound good. No it doesn't.

Is that the one that uses the guitar? The one that has guitar amp in the little, you know, I'm going to protect you eyeball thing on it. Yeah, I'm all seeing eye. I'm curious to see how it works.

I don't want to actually spend the money to buy one because it's like 600 bucks. Is that the one that he just designed recently? Yes. It's the one that he designed recently.

He designed it to work with his app, the SB7, I think is the app. But it also works with like the Echo box or spirit box. Oh, okay. An old guitar amplifier.

So if you ever want to build one. Well I actually entered a contest that I like and share on Facebook. That's like your post. Gotcha go.

It's actually with gotcha go. It's not coming. Actually I have to go to the website and enter the contest on their website. So they're giving away a portal and the whole theory behind the thing is it's supposed to kind of with the reverb pedal, it's supposed to amplify what the spirits are saying.

So you can hear better through like the Echo box or the SB7 or it's not SB7. That's something else I came over as app. You have to buy his app which costs like 200 bucks. It's a $50 app.

It's a $50 app. You can also use it with the Echo box or you can use it with the SB7 spirit box. You know, and I have some really mixed feelings on Steve Hough. And for those who don't know who Steve Hough is.

Sorry, that's not in my throat there. Had you really feel lurch? If you go to YouTube and type in Hough Paranormal, you'll get Steve Hough. And he actually seems like a very nice guy.

He is very obsessed. It's probably the word I can use with EDPs and ghost hunting. And he ghost hunts almost continually in his own home, which is really not a wise thing to do. It's bad.

Okay. It's bad. I wouldn't. It's bad.

I wouldn't. I'm not bad kids. He does a lot with spirit box stuff, a lot with Echo box stuff. He's made new.

That guy probably owns more various types of spirit boxes than I can conceive of. Shake a stick at. But you shake a mean stick too. He talks about his bed like shaking in the middle of the night.

And he has all the negative stuff that you expect. Who's the one with the dirty mind now? What are you talking about? Do you guys like that?

Talking about shaking a stick and she's like, you know, I'm talking about a stick. What are you talking about? I'm just ignoring all of them. I'm just ignoring all of them.

I'm just like continue speaking. Can you go ahead? Anyways. Anyways.

It's a great drinking game. That's every shot's right there. Yeah, you don't want to be on the show because I'm one of those people that'll say something and just watch. Yeah, like we talk about Black Oros.

Oros? Yeah. Black Oros. Yeah, so I'm a helpful person.

That's why I play cards against humanity. I'm the person that I will start a conversation on a topic that I don't even care about. And when two people start arguing about the topic, that's when I get up and walk away. That's why I get a lot so well.

Speaking of which, as soon as this recording is done, we are playing cards against humanity. I for Christmas, I bought Peaches the entire set. The core game and all six expansions. Anyway, back to Steve Hough.

Anyway, so this guy has got like his bedshakes and all the stuff you'd expect from a really negative nasty haunting is going on in this guy's house. And he just takes it straight on his stomach, don't stop shaking my bed and all as well. He uses Ouija boards and just all the stuff that I would tell you is a very bad idea. I just talked to Lothra and then destroy her and tell him to quit shaking my bed and all as well.

Yeah, if she has wrecked the... ...and not just wrecking... ...and not just wrecking the night. We got it in a rough view and he's speaking of Echo Boxes.

Did you guys ever get the recording of any saying your name? On the family tree? I was downstairs. Who got, who recorded that?

I remember it was recording going on when she said that. If it was... I was it there? Was it the last one we did?

No, the family tree. Yeah, she... Yeah, I got... ...

Me was talking to her and she was saying Castle Wisps. I did have one of my action camps going the entire night in that room. So I should have something. Okay, I would like to hear that when you get it because I heard about it but I wasn't the bass player.

I can't hear about that. I have to go through it next time. I wasn't the bass player making sure that Lucy wasn't eating people's faces off. She did that on purpose because she wanted you to hear though.

So hopefully we put it on audio somewhere because that'll make sense. Yeah, I did have my action camp in that room filming in that direction actually where they were sitting at the entire night. Castle is Annie's favorite. I don't know why, but...

That's because Annie's my favorite because she knocks over on a top microspace tree and I think it's awesome watching them to move out. All right, well, does anybody have anything else tonight? This is gonna be like the shortest episode ever and it's not fun because I was unprepared. Well, I want to bring up a couple of things.

First of all, let's just interrupt Jan. Yeah, I finally talked and interrupt me. First of all... Hey Castle, what happened to you?

As listeners. What happened to you again? Castle? How did you get some hate now?

To the new year. I want to hear what listeners want to hear. There are certain things you think, man, they never talk about this topic. They never talk about that topic.

You know what, that is actually a really good idea. In fact, you remind me a few things that we do need to talk about before we call it. Yeah, you don't have to agree. Which is why I asked you all to do homework on the Ovelus 5 for Elisa.

I'll let you. Yeah, and I just forgot because I got busy. I'm sorry. So anyway, if there's a topic you'd like to hear us, you know, talk about, please send it in.

Also, I have... We've had contests quite often because we'd like to involve you and have you feel like you're part of us other than just listening to us. It's fun to meet you guys. Screw you, Mikey Star.

So, and it seems like our prizes are usually, you know, come on with us, which are fun. I think I would think it was fun if I was on the other side of the radio. But this one is gonna be a free piece of equipment. Ooh.

It's not gonna be an expensive piece of equipment, so don't get too excited. It's an analog tape recorder. From 1984. It'll be.

You have to buy your own tapes on. It's not even $15 a piece. It's gotta use cassette. You just record over it.

It's fine. Okay, so I'm not going to announce what it is because I just came up with this just like as I was not talking. It's half-made. So I'll discuss it with a group.

It's a ballpoint pen. For recording when you see on video. Yeah, but the castle. Mysterious handwriting.

It's kind of a slander castle one. So you guys all look forward to it. Yeah, sweetie. Especially who is it that you always say screw you to, Becky?

Yeah, I actually just said it a second ago when you were paying attention to screw you Becky Star. Well, I was just so excited to be able to talk for once. That was just like a screw. Yeah, anyway, Becky will love this one.

Oh, no, I'm curious to know what you have in mind. We will announce it in two weeks. So I've got a piece of equipment I have in mind too. I just have to have to come up with the contest for it.

I've been talking about the. Oh, yeah. Ghostop has this for inexpensive. It's like $40.

They have a digital voice recorder. Or yeah, that's what we call it. Analytic. Yeah, I know what to do.

But it's a voice recorder. It's a wristband. So you just put it on your wrist and you can walk around recording and then it's got a USB port. So when you're done, you can't use a computer.

Wait, I know it's lame, but I think it would be something fun to give up. I don't see Lurch offering up any money to buy some more expensive gifts. Yeah, Lurch is offering a thermal camera. See, something else I just realized that I want there's the full spectrum camera that Ghostop does now.

I'm sorry, full spectrum glasses camera. So you can wear glasses so you get like your point of view. So maybe we should chip in a buy one of those for DM. The full spectrum glasses.

And there's also the new one that came out with is the little remote control car thing with a full spectrum camera on it. That can go places that you can't. Now I just saw someone using one of those with the wristboard and on the other side was a flashlight. And it just looked kind of awkward.

This one is just a recorder. And speaking of wrist things, I got a smart watch for Christmas and it has a little ghost back on it. It was awesome. It was awesome.

It was awesome. Hey, man. Okay, so let's look at the girls here. Yeah, if you'll just mute those who say Apple's up already muted.

You had some other things you want to talk about. Oh, I thought you're still talking and you got Max's interrupting. No, I can see the right is yours. I'm done.

I'm good. You're done. You're still doing the little t-shirts thing and stuff like that. Yeah, so again, again, listen, if you want t-shirts, we'll order some some fan t-shirts.

Lurch, what is the status on fear factory? I've had some people express interest in fear factory. I was just waiting to hear back whether or not you'd be available on the day that I mentioned. Um, I forget all that.

So we'll talk after the recording. I said the end of March, let me just pull it up to my calendar. 26th. Is that the Friday or Saturday?

It should be Saturday. Saturday March 26th. Yeah, that's the day that we're thinking. I will make it work.

Okay, so right now the cost is $45 ahead and I think it's paying cash, pay at the door. I told them it'd probably be about 12 to 15 people, but if we get some listeners that are interested, I think someone already mentioned. In fact, I think it was Alyssa that said that she wanted to go out. A hot Vanessa sent me an email.

She said that she would be coming and bringing a guest. So does something we want to put up on our website and sell tickets for? Or do we want to just let them pay the door? Yeah, I think we can actually do both.

Are we a sweetie with us so we know what the toll-head count is? What we can do too is I think we can probably set up a limited number of tickets and just announce it and people can buy them. We'll reserve tickets for those who have already asked to go, so they have the reserve spot. But we will be planning on March 26th.

Yeah, it's a little steep as far as cost goes. $45 is a little more than I'd want to pay, but it's about $5. Do you just get out of you? Okay.

Yeah. I have gotten some amazing EBPs out of that location. I've been excited. I really want to go.

I've been looking forward this for a while. And the interesting thing is this is one of the locations that Brandy has said she won't go. And they're going to drag me like he can be in springing. And so this is one where if Brandy does go, she's probably going to be glued to either myself or lurch.

She has free agency. And again, that's why we'll see if she wants to go and if she doesn't, then we won't make her. However, if she does go, that's one where we're going to keep an eye on her because it's kind of a that's a very dark location. So go wandering off into the sprinklers.

Except there's no sprinklers. I shall go wandering off into the rusty machinery. The train tracks. The train tracks.

Also, we're still accepting applications like I mentioned in previous podcast. As soon as I'm confident that we have enough applications, we will start the interview process. I'm not in a huge hurry to start that yet. But if you're interested, and I like Alika mentioned that she had this.

Lisa? Yeah, intentionally mispronouncing her name. She mentioned that she didn't think she had enough experience to apply. I told her to apply anyway.

To be honest with you, I don't care how much experience you have. What we're looking for is people who would be a good fit. We will train people and equipment's not an issue. If you're interested in investigating with us on a regular or part-time basis, please go apply the website.

You can use all castles gear. I have enough gear that you can use all castles gear. But come apply. I think between all six of us here, we have enough gear that we could probably arm small.

Usually when we do the public cons, if there's people who I know and trust, I will go through and let them use my gear. And you can win your own gear in a month? Right. And say that there's enough gear that we outfit quite a few people.

In fact, on most investigations, this group right here outfits the entire rest of the team for the most part. If you have no gear at all, if you have a smartphone and a maglite, that's all you need. I use my mag lights a lot. Mag lights for those cost me about like what?

Ten bucks a piece? Yeah, flashlight questions for yes or no answers. Then the smartphone, you can take digital photos. Record audio recording.

I've got a full spectrum camera and I probably take even more. In fact, Tim probably uses my full spectrum camera more than I do. I actually take more photos on my iPhone and have gotten some great pictures by the way. Convenience.

I'm just having it right there. Then I do with my full spectrum camera. And again, Tim probably uses my full spectrum camera more than I do. But go apply.

And it's because I'm a little bit of a narcissist. I would like to get our Facebook page some more likes. So please like our Facebook page. Please share.

Everybody went around 610. Yeah, it's like 611. I think we got up to that. We game five.

We lose four. We're jumping around between like 605 and 610. Just barely about 600. Yeah.

So please help us get our page up over a thousand likes. Share it with your friends, study friends to like it. And maybe I'll randomly pick someone and buy them like a K2 meter or something. You know what?

I would be OK to kick in on that and get a K2 meter to somebody. One of our... I forget a thousand likes. We'll just randomly pick someone that's like our page.

You know what? That is a great idea, Tim. And I will go in on a K2 meter. In fact, not only a K2 meter, but the good K2 meter that has sound.

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. And so like our page, once we hit a thousand likes, there's a K2 meter involved in there. That will give away to somebody.

Other than that, do you have anything else tonight, larks that you'd like to cover? I got nothing. I got nothing. You got anything again?

Nope. I'm not sure if you have any questions or questions. You would like us to answer on the show. I know that Deans and Kefi have topics we want to talk about.

But if you have a specific question, like you know, a whole topic, feel free to shoot one of us an email or message us on Facebook. We're usually pretty good. There's enough of us that I've given administrators status to on Facebook that it's not uncommon for those who ask the question on Facebook to get an answer literally within minutes because if I'm not paying attention to it, Lurch is or Beaker is Deans is Phil pays attention to it. And to be honest with you, I love feedback because a lot of times you guys ask questions that we don't even think about because they're kind of everyday things for us, but they're actually probably very interesting to you guys.

Oh, and I remember the last thing I wanted to bring up. And this is why I usually have an agenda is because I know all the things that we need to talk about and I don't forget. Some of our future shows, this is season one. Next time we record it will be season two of The Wisps Show.

I know at the beginning of season one, I teased having Ben Hanson on the show, and that is still something we need to do. I've already talked about it. He's agreed to do it. It's just a matter of I just need to set it up with him.

It's just a chugging down on it. It's just the same thing. So we will get Ben Hanson on the show. And that's actually doable too.

I'll see if I can get Chunga on the show. And that should be actually fairly easy to do. I've also got a theologian who I'm going to bring on the show and see if I can get him to come in. And we're going to do a whole episode on demonic possession.

Cool. Which yeah, which should be really interesting. Which I should not be good for. Are you going to?

I think you actually really enjoy that episode, Randy. He's he actually teaches seminary. He's studied Hebrew. This guy knows his stuff.

Castle's going to allow himself to be possessed. So all the stuff that I learned in GCD. All the stuff that you learned where? In CCD.

That's Catholic. Probably. He's LDS, but he basically teaches LDS seminary. So he does church literally 40 hours a week plus all day Sunday because he's a member of my local bishop right here and a very good friend of mine.

And so I'm going to see if I can get him on. And we're going to try and do a whole episode on possession. Which should be relatively interesting. Anyway, again, please give us your feedback.

This will be the last of our unscripted episodes because I would have liked to have more material. But it's close to Christmas and I was lazy. You need to end it. Yeah, I got nothing.

Well, I'd also like to remind people that we do have the user submission page. Oh, yes, thank you. If you go to the WIS page, if you have evidence that you've picked up from when your own ghost hunts, one of the chunga hunts, be it photo, video, anything like that, please go to the WIS page. I do have a link set up for user submitted stuff and send it to us.

And if you say. I know that audio that Becky sent us that we need to clean up. She sent two VPs. You can hear them, but they're kind of like a B and C quality.

So we need to kind of amplify the sound a little bit. Yes, send those to me. I'll see if I can get those cleaned up a little bit and get them posted. But yeah, so our user submission page, as soon as we start getting some stuff, we will start putting it up there.

So I'd really love to see evidence that you guys have collected. And to be honest with you, I have some evidence that people have collected. I just haven't had a bunch submitted, just not since I put the submission link up. And I think part of it is because there haven't been any chung investigations since I put that link up.

And so I don't think people have really had a chance to go out and get stuff. If you have gotten stuff from past chung investigations that you haven't submitted, and you want to submit it, and I will give you credit for it on the site. So I'll list your name. I know that I've submitted user submitted stuff before and some of our photos.

I think Mike Bullock submitted a photo from Fort Douglas last year that I've got him credited for under a regular photo section. But feel free to submit stuff. Other than that, Merry Christmas. Thank you for listening this year.

2016, we got some good stuff in store. Again, I won't be lazy, and I'll actually have an agenda. So the show will not be quite so random and boring. Other than that, have a good night.

Anyway. Good night. Anyway. Night.

Don't you anyway, me. Anyways. Anyways. Oh my god.

Oh my gosh. You're listening to the Wisps, Wasatch Investigative Studies for Paranormal Science. They're grown ass adults that like to sit in the dark and talk to each other. But they all love their moms, so that should account for something.