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EPISODE · Jun 22, 2026 · 50 MIN

The Leadership Skill That Matters More Than IQ

from The C-Suite Mentor - Business Growth for Small Business Leaders with Theresa Cantley · host Theresa Cantley

It was 2020. The world had just flipped upside down, and Andrea Mancuso's older brother was in the ICU with COVID. Andrea had a master's in therapeutic intervention. Fourteen years as a school psychologist in the New York City public schools. A whole career built on clinical skills and helping people through hard things.   And in those few days, she lost access to every bit of it. She was just afraid, wondering what was going to happen.   After three days, she sat up and told herself: you're either going to navigate this pandemic like this — which is no good for you or anybody else — or you're going to do something different. That was the day Intentional Healing and Wellness was born.   In this episode of Amuse Bouche Leadership Bites, Theresa sits down with Andrea — licensed mental health counselor, leadership coach, and the person who's helped Theresa through plenty of her own challenges — to talk about the part of leadership nobody hands you a handbook for.   They get into why entrepreneurship is personal development on steroids, why leading other people is the easy part and leading yourself is the work, and Andrea's premise that time does not heal all wounds — intention does. She shares the 82-year-old client who hired her at 80 because he was tired of feeling like he wasn't good enough.   Andrea breaks down emotional intelligence as the EQ advantage — the leading predictor of leadership success that almost nobody can actually name the skills of — and makes the case for radical responsibility: stop waiting for your employer to develop you and invest in yourself, because success leaves clues.   And there's the car. Are you in the driver's seat with the windows down and your music on — or in the back seat, waiting to see who gets in, how fast they drive, and whether they even show up?   Here's the real question this one leaves you with: what's the thing that already popped into your mind — the one that needs your attention? Because the moment you give it attention, you set yourself free.   Key Takeaways: • Leadership isn't really about your relationship with other people — entrepreneurship taught Andrea it's about how you lead yourself. • It's harder NOT to do the inner work. Convincing yourself it's too hard to look keeps you stuck at a ceiling you don't belong at. • Time does not heal all wounds — intention does. The wound that's already on your mind is the one asking for attention. • Emotional intelligence is the leading predictor of leadership success, yet it's made up of 15 skills almost no one can name. That gap is the EQ advantage. • Flexibility is one of those EQ skills — and we're rarely the best judge of our own. We see ourselves one way; the people around us see something else. • Radical responsibility: don't outsource your growth to your employer's training budget. Invest in yourself — coaching, therapy, even just the book — because success leaves clues. • Hard skills get you hired; human skills make you a leader. Andrea saw it as a school psychologist — high EQ predicted who'd be fine far better than IQ ever did. • You're not just the writer of your story — you're the director, the producer, and the lead. Living as if life happens to you is riding in the back seat. • When you promote someone, clarity and training aren't optional. You can't hand someone a 'handbook of excellence' and expect them to know how to lead.   Timestamps / Chapter Markers: 00:01   Meet Andrea Mancuso 01:20   Who Andrea is: Intentional Healing and Wellness, leadership + midlife coaching 01:55   14 years as a school psychologist — the one part of life she thought she had figured out 03:20   The golden handcuffs — the NYC package she felt committed to 04:00   2020: her brother in the ICU, and losing access to every skill she had 04:32   After three days Intentional Healing and Wellness is born 05:01   September 2021: pulling the plug and jumping fully into entrepreneurship 05:35   The program that started it all: Momentum Education, July 2016 06:55   Forget Tony Robbins — just become an entrepreneur (personal development on steroids) 08:10   The reframe: leadership is about how you lead yourself 08:16   Why entrepreneurs hide instead of being themselves 12:23   The lie that keeps you at your ceiling 13:31   "I can't believe I was afraid of this. I wish I did it sooner." 15:26   Two layers of stuff: the original wound plus everything we used to avoid it 15:55   The 82-year-old client and the premise: time doesn't heal all wounds, intention does 17:57   The car ride: driver's seat vs. back seat, and the double whammy of self-abandonment 23:14   "I didn't know what brought me joy" — Brooklyn grit and rediscovering joy in midlife 25:22   The corporate pivot: layoffs, AI, and managers handed an old playbook 27:44   Emotional intelligence: the leading predictor no one can name (15 skills, no hands up) 30:34   Radical responsibility: stop waiting for your employer to develop you 37:37   IQ vs. EQ: the students whose soft skills told her they'd be just fine 40:38   Lightning round questions for Andrea 45:13   What she's most grateful for 47:06   Where to find Andrea   If Andrea named the thing that's been sitting on your mind — hit subscribe, share it with someone who's been running from their own work, and leave a review so more leaders find their way here.   And if something came up while you listened, send her a message — she'd love to hear from you.   📕 Pre-Order Andrea's new book The Space Between: Navigating the Journey from Dream to Success   👉 Connect with Andrea: Website: https://www.iamandreamancuso.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandreamancuso/    READY TO UNCOVER THE BLIND SPOT HURTING YOUR SMALL BUSINESS? 📋Take this quiz to uncover what's holding your business back from success: https://theresacantley.com/quiz     📌 If you're ready to pinpoint where your business is stalling and map out a winning 60-90-day strategy, book a C-Suite Snapshot: https://theresacantley.com/business-audit   🔗 Connect with Theresa: Website: https://theresacantley.com/   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theresacantley   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/theresaccantley   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresacantley   ▶️ SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theresacantley

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