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EPISODE · Aug 4, 2026 · 38 MIN

The leadership strategy that changes everything with Matt Kunz

from Scaling the Gap · host Madeleine MacRae

Growing a business isn't just about finding more opportunities. Sometimes, the real skill is knowing which opportunities to turn down.On this episode of Bold Enough, Madeleine MacRae talks with franchise leader Matt Kunz of Fastest Labs about what it really takes to scale businesses, develop successful franchise owners, and remain disciplined while everything around you is changing.Matt shares lessons from decades in franchising, including his journey from owning Sylvan Learning centers to leading major franchise brands. He explains why structure can create freedom, why franchisee profitability is essential to sustainable growth, and what happens when skilled technicians begin seeing themselves as business owners.He also shares a remarkable story of a painter who transformed a roughly $360,000 business into a seven-figure operation, eventually creating a company that three of his children chose to join.But growth hasn't come without difficult lessons. Matt opens up about unexpected legal challenges, communication mistakes that distracted an entire franchise system for nearly a year, and why leaders have to understand the many different sides of a decision before moving forward.Madeleine and Matt also explore technology's changing role in business, the importance of bringing people along through change, and a different way of defining success: not as a destination or title, but as continuous evolution, contribution, humility, and improvement.Above all, Matt makes the case for one of the hardest disciplines in leadership:You have to say no to good ideas so you can say yes to the great ones.If you're building a business, leading a team, growing a franchise, or trying to figure out where your time and energy will create the greatest impact, this conversation is for you.Follow Matt:Email: [email protected]: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattkunzLearn more about Fastest Labs:fastestlabs.comfastestlabsfranchise.comFollow Madeleine:Website:https://madeleinemacrae.com/books/LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/macraemadeleineInstagram:https://www.instagram.com/madeleine.macrae/Book:The Tenacious Pursuit of Peace: Where to Go When Success Isn’t Enough

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