The Line Podcast: Mark Carney's looking a lot like Justin Trudeau, after all

In the latest episode of The Line Podcast, recorded on May 16, 2025, Matt opens with what he claims is a harmless anthropological observation about Alberta. Jen hadn’t noticed it before — but to her surprise, she agrees. And no, it shouldn’t piss anyone off. (Probably.)From there, they move on to the first days of Mark Carney’s duly elected government. Matt is... fine. Everything that’s happening is exactly what he expected, and he finds that oddly reassuring. Jen is not fine. Because it’s exactly what Matt expected — and that’s the problem.This episode of The Line Podcast is brought to you by Unsmoke Canada. Canada can be a global leader in reducing the harm caused by smoking, but it requires actionable steps, including giving adult smokers the information they need to choose potentially less harmful alternatives. Learn more at Unsmoke.ca.In the second segment, a rare note of patriotic pride: Matt and Jen agree that the actual machinery of Canadian democracy — voting, counting, elections — has typically worked very well. But this time around, there were issues. Not dramatic ones, but real ones. And if we want to keep the system trustworthy, we’re going to need to fix them — even if that means triggering a by-election or two just to make sure the count is clean.This episode of The Line Podcast is also brought to you by Innovative Medicines Canada. With a new government in place, one thing remains clear: Canada must continue to prioritize patients and healthcare innovation. Innovative Medicines Canada is focused on collaborating with all levels of government to improve access to life-saving medicines and develop a healthcare system that prioritizes patients, ignites innovation, and drives economic growth.Canada’s innovative medicines sector plays a critical role—not just in health outcomes, but in keeping us competitive on the global stage. That’s why, even during a moment of political change, Innovative Medicines Canada is staying focused on the issues that matter most to Canadians. And as Canada moves forward with national pharmacare, Innovative Medicines Canada believes it’s possible to expand access without limiting choice—by strengthening what works and fixing what doesn’t.Visit innovativemedicines.ca to learn more.Finally, it’s time for a vibe check. The cancel culture era has, by Jen and Matt’s reckoning, died a fast and richly deserved death. But the pendulum is already swinging — hard — and it’s going to crash back into the exact same authoritarian instincts, just with a different aesthetic. So once again, The Line will find itself taking fire from both sides. If you like having a podcast that still tries to make sense of things from somewhere in the sane zone, well ... you’d better like and subscribe. It’s the only way we stay uncancellable.All that, and more, in the latest episode of The Line Podcast. Like and subscribe at ReadTheLine.ca, or find us on your favourite podcast app so you never miss an episode. And if you’re enjoying the show, post about it, tell a friend, or shout it from whatever ideological trench you currently occupy. We’ll still be here, dodging the incoming.YouTube:Video goes live in 30 minutes, at 5:00 PM Eastern and 3:00 PM Mountain.Spotify:Apple:And plenty more options here.Please sign up at those options not just for this episode, or future episodes of The Line Podcast, but so that you can also receive our other podcast series, On the Line, which releases new episodes every Tuesday morning. In case you missed it, here is last Tuesday’s episode, where Matt Gurney interviewed Ian Lee, from Carleton University’s Sprott School of Business on Trump’s tariff “deal” with China, and anti-panelist Jamie Carroll of Team Liberal returned to chat with Matt about what we’ve seen from the government so far.Thanks for all your support. Watch for the dispatch on this weekend — and to all, a happy Victoria Day!The Line is entirely reader and advertiser funded — no federal subsidy for us! If you value our work, have already subscribed, and still worry about what will happen when the conventional media finishes collapsing, please make a donation today.The Line is Canada’s last, best hope for irreverent commentary. We reject bullshit. We love lively writing. Please consider supporting us by subscribing. Follow us on Twitter @the_lineca. Pitch us something: [email protected] Get full access to The Line at www.readtheline.ca/subscribe