The lobbyists you don't know about, Ukraine gets new missile tech + the power of a third place

There are growing calls for a crackdown on lobbyists after a Four Corners investigation revealed dozens of political staffers have jumped from government jobs into lucrative lobbying firms.So how does lobbying work and what does this all mean for our democracy?Also, Ukraine now has access to new missile technology after the UK's new Prime Minister Andy Burnham visited Kyiv to mark 35 years of Ukrainian independence.Plus are third places disappearing? Listen now: 01:13 - Lobbyists and democracy16:37 - Ukraine gets new missile tech21:33 - Are third places disappearing?Guests: Jennifer Lacy-Nichols, senior research fellow, University of MelbourneKonrad Benjamin, Punters PoliticsMelissa Neighbour, Director, Sky PlanningGet the whole story from hack:Follow us on Instagram and TikTokSubscribe to the hack podcastListen on the triple j app or on your radio live every weeknight at 5:30pm