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Sep 24, 2025 1 hr 54 min

The Long Walk (2025)

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I've been looking over the metrics for the podcast and it's not looking so good. The analytics are, we're lagging. We're lagging. One of the big complaints we're getting about at the show is the pace.

They feel like it's not, it's got to be snappier. It's got to be quicker. More lively. You know what I mean?

Yeah, peppier. I got you. Yes. Okay, so far not great.

But here's a... No, I have a point. This is not much strong. I've got these bracelets here, which will monitor not only our BPM, but our WPM, our words for minute.

Okay. And here's the deal. I've gotten more than just two bracelets. If you look down at your chest, you'll notice a little red dot turned over your heart.

Uh-huh. I didn't notice that. Well, I think you know what happens if you stop talking as any slower than snow, the guy who sings in former. Look at your boom-boom down.

Yeah. Oh, I have to keep a snows pace. You have to keep a snows pace. Okay.

Otherwise, I'll be what executed? Let's just say your boom-boom will be like down. And not in the way that that sounds at all. Alright.

Well, I think this is a great idea. I just really have to take a shit first. So, uh... You can do that while you talk.

Oh, God. No, it's actually quite easy. Uh, uh, I can't concentrate. In former.

Yeah, he's also snow is the guy who's going to shoot you. No. Alright, we haven't started the rule yet, but we're going to start in three, two, one. This week on King Mi the task is simple.

Walk or die. This is the long walk. Fuck me. Amadeus.

Ah, Bach Mi. That's confusing because that's also a composer. A famous composer. Bach Mi Amadeus.

I want it all. King Mi. King Mi. Welcome to King Mi the official Stephen King.

Sorry. We're in a new era. Welcome to King Mi presents King Mi the official Sting, the official Sting podcast. I'm your desert rose Danny.

And joining me as always is my red light Robbie. Oh, no. What's wrong? Nothing.

I think, um, I think it's this new rule for keeping a, a snows pace. I was back. Yeah. I disagree.

Alright. I think we're doing good. Okay. There's just so much that we get three warnings.

Alright. We'll get there. Yes. This week.

The official Stephen King movie podcast is the official podcast of King Mi. See official podcast of you broke your ankle. You got to take a shit. Who cares?

It's the official podcast of just shooting the head. Just please shoot me in the head. Oh man. You know who would love this movie?

Who? Oh, what's his name? It's like Enrico Colantoni Enrico Colantoni. Who is that?

He was on just shoot me. He plays Elliot on just shoot. He's the bald guy? Yep.

He's also the guy in the wrong guy, the Dave Foley Canadian only released comedy who comes up with the no bullet theory for the JFK assassination. He thinks his head just did that. That's a funny joke. It's a great joke.

It's like an all-timer. Anyway, this week on, we got a new release, new wish by the time this comes out. Yeah, no, it's a new release. It's still in theaters.

You can walk, don't run to go see it. Yeah. Right? Yeah, you can take your time.

It's the long walk. I'm going to be forced to the short pier. You are on fire this morning. Second cuppa.

I'm on my second cuppa. Nice. Yeah. It's the prequel to the running man coming out later this year.

We got to talk about that up top. How, as Richard Bachman, he's covered all speeds of human movement. Yeah. And how weird that is.

And he's like, what if there was a dystopian competition where? Yeah. What if there were a bunch of babies that had to duke it out and they were crawling? Can we throw that in there somehow?

Okay. We were talking about the Savannah bananas before we started recording. Yeah. The Savannah bananas games do a baby race.

Oh. Not the barbecue sauce. Sweet baby race. Sweet baby race.

Anyway, yeah. I don't know if I'm on board with these bananas. No, they're too much. It might be too much.

You know what it is. Okay, here's the thing. You're your baseball guy. I mean, as we discussed this in our baseball month that we did a little while ago.

Sure. You know, over the course of that month, I feel like I've got a better understanding of the game and I've even watched. And it deepened your hatred. No, no.

I've watched some some baseball since then. Yeah. I'll also hit Dingers. Okay.

You know, like. Seeing this Calwellie. Dying quail with eyes. I don't know.

But I'm still like, I'm kind of still dipping my toe in the baseball the whole lifestyle here. Yeah. The lifestyle as we call it. Right.

Right. You're, you're all gas on kind of all breaks. Yeah. But so I'm not looking to spice things up by having a baby race or the umpire doing karate kicks or whatever.

I'm still like, what's, tell me about second base here. Not that second base. I'm still, I'm still trying to figure that out myself. It's the most relatable thing you've ever said.

So I don't know. Maybe it's about second base. Well, it's the second base. Well, as you want to know, well, I'm still figuring it all out.

I understand what you're saying though. It's pretty overwhelming, right? It's like you got to know the rules to break the rules and you're still at the knowing the rules. I'm still trying to get an appreciation of the game itself.

Sure. Before we start throwing hijinks into bells and whistles in. Yeah. That's sort of like an interesting, I mean, it's for like little kids, I think it's for like Minecraft children.

Sure. It's, yeah, it's for screen kids kids who are like, I can't, I can't go 15 seconds without some sort of stimulation here. But I think that's what second base is for these kids are over 18. Yeah, I'll be good.

Okay. Got it. I know, but I also think that kids more than the MGMT sense than any legal. Right.

Yeah. I don't know. I think that I think it's more of an adult thing anyway. I think it's for people who think that they're like fun.

I would agree with that. To me, so my sort of like criticism of it, like when I met my most cynical, I guess, about the whole thing. Yeah. Because on one hand, I'm like, well, if it's getting people any closer to the child's game, I'm all for that, right?

The beautiful game. On the other hand, I am like, sort of has the energy of like a fraternity talent show. Uh huh. You know, I think just because it's like beautiful muscle bound boys in their 20s.

Yeah. You know, yeah, and they're like doing little dances to like TikTok songs or whatever. Right. So I'm kind of like, I don't know.

I don't know if I'm fully on board for it. I like the stuff like the real circus shit. Like you mentioned the guy on Stilts pitching. Sure.

That's fun to me because it's like, how do you even do that? That's like impressive. Yeah. And they do like trick plays and stuff and that's fun.

But I think when they start getting into choreo is kind of where I'm like, that's yeah, I think that's what if you're doing like, maybe if, see, if they mixed baseball with like Cirque du Soleil somehow. Hmm. Maybe that's something. I don't know.

At least that would be like weird. I think this is all like a little too cutesy maybe for me. And yeah, the like frat talent show is that's like, that's I think we're yeah, I feel like we're we're talking about the same thing. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm I'm I'm banana skeptical, but I would love to go because here's one of the things that get absolutely right. And then we'll talk about the long long. Yeah.

They so there's a rule, right? You know, like in a real baseball game, if player heads a foul ball goes in the stands, it's just like out of play plays that if a fan catches it in banana ball, that's an out. That's fun. That's a lot of pressure for the fan.

It is it is. You can determine the course of course of events. Wow. I don't know if I like that.

You're a real like sort of two tier, you know, like an upper class lower class sort of thing. You want the rabble in their in their place. You want the piggies in their pens. I do.

Oh, which I guess kind of brings us to our movie this week. Hey, they call people pigs a lot in this thing. He's fucking big fucking pigs. And you know, I'm kind of like they are pigs.

They're hooting hogs. Yeah, they're swine. They're swine. This movie, the long walk, based on a book by Richard Bachmann, who was based on a man named Stephen King.

I did. Okay. So classically, we don't read the book and I did the same thing for this. I didn't read the book.

We had to honor tradition. Tradition. So we were talking briefly before we hit record here about the dialogue in this movie. I think so much it feels so kingly to me.

It does. It really does. And the farther we get the farther we get from like 1956, the more alien and bizarre it all feels. Yeah.

I mean, what year do you think this movie takes place? Because they never put a date to it. Well, so not to lean on the book too much, but the book is set somewhere in the 20th century, which feels about right to me just like based on the cars you see and you know, the one kid with the radio. Yeah, it's got like a screen in sight, Dan.

No, just kids living in the moment. Living in the moment. They're all living in the moment. It feels sort of like 80s and 90s, right?

I at first I definitely thought that it was like that. But then I was I don't know. It feels like it could be like honestly could be the 40s. Yeah, you know, like post World War II and like maybe we didn't win or do as good as you know, originally we won.

We just didn't do that good. So we didn't so this happened. Yeah, we didn't know but no sailors were kissing women in Times Square. It was like, I don't know their lips just chapping in the air.

Yeah, just trying to smooch and nobody was around. Hello? Hello? Hello?

Oh God. Yeah. That's it. I'm going to start the totalitarian government.

I'm going to become the major. By the way, yeah. Can I just say with love and light? Mm-hmm.

It's not casting more, Campbell and stuff. Right. This guy working for like a loaf of bread. I mean, what like this makes no sense.

He's like so he's such a nerd to his core. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Like I just don't buy anyone less. And unfortunately, I do think like and I'm saying this as though I've seen both. But I think the fact that this is coming out like right at the same time as one battle after another, which is like also, you know, not that they're even remotely the same in terms of like the plot or the story they're trying to tell, but both in that sort of like totalitarian government, sort of like that's the backdrop. Yeah.

And that has like Sean Penn from all by all accounts at like his most just like most Sean Pennie, I guess I would just say just like utterly contemptible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the character and it's like he's got a thing going on where he's like it's like very like his fascism is very like libidinal and it feels like real I think in a way. That this certainly doesn't where this is just like put a put a spirit Halloween costume on Mark Hamill.

Yeah, like a maybe two sizes too big costume on the man. I was trying to figure out like what they were going for with this. And like I really I don't know. I'm so I mean, you know, right off the bat.

I'm just saying I'm like very lukewarm on this movie at best. Yeah. Yeah. I left the speaker Walker.

He's in it. Right. Man, I I was thinking about it too. I was like when I was a kid, I was like very into Star Wars and I didn't like I don't know.

I just you know, so Mark Hamill was just like a guy that I saw a lot in those movies. I watched the movies like a lot but like enough and I was just like yeah, Mark Hamill. He's like he's the greatest actor of life. Well, he was in there with like obviously like, you know, most kids are not like Luke Skywalker guys.

They're probably Han Solo guys, you know, because Harrison Ford is like a fucking he's got Riz. He's got Riz. Yeah, he's charming as hell. And then he's pissing Riz.

He's got Riz to spare. He does. The guy's frozen in carbonite and you're like, can somebody do you thought that guy? So we can uh, yeah, we can get back to the movie, please.

You know, but yeah, I don't know. I watch this. I'm like, fucking Mark Hamill sucks, huh? I was just like, yeah, so not doing anything.

I mean, he's not doing anything. He's not like, I don't know, they're had the major. So what I think one of the problems in this movie is like, I don't understand the world that we're living in here at all. And I don't.

Yeah, so like nothing is really like they hint at things, which is, you know, it's fine, but I'm like, you need, I don't know. I need to know a little bit more. You do. I think, I think like the sort of like major flaw of this movie, and I don't know if this is true in the book, but I would guess so because it's a Stephen King story is the attempt to like, to be like politics is a, you know, it's like a fool's errand and like have this like humanist point of view where it's like it transcends politics.

And because it doesn't take that seriously, so this is the non-cynical read is that because it doesn't take politics seriously, it just phones in the elements, the political elements and doesn't shade them in at all. Yeah. Cynical read is that they did not want to piss even one person off by getting too specific, which I think is probably more what the case was. Probably.

Yeah. So nothing resembles anything, except that like poor people are poor, which we can all agree on. Right. Right.

And like, honestly, I was kind of like surprised that it ended the way it did. Right. With the, you know, with him actually killing the major or whatever. Sure.

But again, the only reason you can do that is because none of this resembles anything in real life. And granted, this was written forever. So maybe it's just like super faithful and was the book is just like forecasting something that never happened. Yeah.

Right. But I don't know. Again, I just think they were just like, we don't want anyone complaining about this movie. So yeah, I know.

What's I don't know. There's also, I heard somebody's read on the ending to being like, I don't know that like what the kid McVree's he, like he shoots a major, but like everybody else, like the crowd that was there a minute ago is no longer in there. So maybe it's not real, some sort of a, I don't like a dream thing. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. I know what to make of it. Yeah. The ending I thought sucked.

I kind of hated that part. To, you know, versus like the rest of the movie, which I was like fairly indifferent towards. So much of the movie is just kids getting their fucking heads blown off. Dude, I, yes.

Yeah. I also think this movie suffers from not being released like 20 years ago when this was like less of a thing we were all confronting every single day of our lives. Yeah. I just, I don't know what to do with that now.

You know, I think part of it is like, yes, we live in a world now where like mass shootings happen every single day. Sure. Or over, we live in a world where militaries are executing children every single day. Yes.

So, yes, sorry, go on. No, but like this is like the reality and like, it's not, I don't, it's not like, I'm not saying anything that, you know, people don't know. Like everybody can like kind of knows about this, you know, like school's have like shooter drills, you know, which, yeah, apparently are very ineffective. All they do is freak people out and don't really have any value.

Yeah. But, but no, I mean, like, I think too, like with the sort of like brutality of it, because like, you know, you see the first kid get domed frankly, and it's like, it's brutal. It's like you see, like the, his face explode. Yes.

Right. On the exit at the exit wound. And so you're like, there's like the shock of that and the horror of that. Yeah.

But then we keep seeing it and it leaves you sort of wondering like, what is the fucking point of showing me all of this brutality? Right. Seemingly, there is no point. Right.

Like we are with the walk the entire time, but we're told that this is like being televised. So like, give us like some perspective outside of it, I guess. I mean, like, granted, this movie was made for $15. It really was, right?

So I get it. Like you can't really set, you can't really afford shots like that or whatever, I guess, but I don't know. I think it just suffers for it. It's just like budget was $20 million.

And like, I got to ask, where is it? Where is the other, you know, 19, 5 million, my man? It says it says 20 million net. Does that mean, does that include like marketing budget?

Oh, probably, because if so, that would make a lot more sense. Usually 19, 19.9 million dollars went into marketing. Into marketing. All right.

So let's get into like some of the people here. So we got Francis Lawrence, Frankie Larry. Frankie Larry. I never loved you Frankie Larry.

That's what you say when he's like, my name is Francis Lawrence. You go, I know pronounce you Frankie Larry. That's right. That's not how I pronounce that.

Francis Lawrence, not really much of anyone except for the fact that he did a little movie called Dior, Cole and Joy, and Ad for a Dior. Yes. No, he directed the Hunger Games trilogy, which is like, he directed all the fucking Hunger Games movies, which this feels like Hunger Games, like prequel or something. Right.

Yeah. He's a big dystopia guy. He also did, I am legend. He loves a dystopia.

Get this guy, dystopia. I'm almost good at it, but he likes it. He doesn't seem to be. As long as he's having fun in his sandbox, he also, and we'll cover this Friday on the patreon, patreon.com slash Kamey Pod, Constantine movie, ostensibly about like, morality and like, you know, a movie that is entirely about religion without saying anything about it.

It's much in the way that this movie doesn't say anything. You know what? Yeah. Maybe he's just a guy that like, I'm just, I'm just presenting ideas.

No, but he's not. He's like, I'm just presenting signifiers. Yes. And it's up to you to ring any blood from this stone.

Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, Frankie Larry, all the Hunger Games movies, I think you're not a hunger. You never watched any of those movies, right?

I've never gotten hungry now. No, no. Never played the game. That's you.

How about you? I saw the other games guy. I saw the first one. When that was happening, like the Hunger Games books and all that shit.

I read the first one and then I saw the movie and I was like, I'm good on the rest. I don't care. Yeah, it's just like YA nonsense, right? It is.

It's 100% YA nonsense. I was all adults. Yeah. I was also like, this all feels like the movie Battle Royale and it is, which is that's a better movie.

Did people, is that the movie people pointed that out about at the time Battle Royale? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's our, that's our Frankie Larry. That's our Frankie Larry. He's at the helm.

He's saying, okay, in this scene, your motivation is to walk at three miles an hour. I mean, I can tell you, like filming a movie where everybody is constantly in motion, that's unique. It's unique. It's smart.

Aaron Sorkin just creaming his jeans. Yeah, just jacked off. Whole body of movies, walks and talks. Yeah.

And when he sees someone get killed for stopping walking, he's like fine. Perfect. Yes. That's what should happen.

If you're not walking. Aaron Sorkin to get arrested for jacking off in the theater while watching this movie. The walking talk was just so stimulating for him. Yes.

Yes. It's probably to get it up. All that frickin. I mean, talk about snow.

Well, uh, what a sort. Well, he's a little, a little, little, little, little sugar habit. Good for him. That's the most fun you can have doing drugs.

So good for him. Good for him. Good for him. So written by JT Mulner, screenplay by JT Mulner.

So guy, if you look in pictures, is wearing a sort of peaky blinders in every single photo. So this guy is thinking Caprob. I know. This guy wrote and directed a movie that I really liked from a couple, from last year, I think it was, it was Strange Darling.

2023 is Strange Darling. I like that one a lot. It was like a serial killer story told out of order. Um, it was just, it was like a fun sort of thriller, whatever.

Man, got a thinking cap, like hot to the touch, coming up with out of order story. What? I don't know, because it's so, so intellectual. Oh, well, yeah.

Um, starring a flannelum, a little bit's Gerald. Yes. Um, this, uh, like, I don't know, like, this all feels like so much of the dialogue here feels like it was from Stephen King. Right.

Like they just zero-oxed conversations out of the books. Hey, Rob. Yeah. Um, look, I know the rules we set in the cold open.

Uh, oh, then it's gonna be shot in the head. I get three warnings. Uh, I like to- We'll be right back. Thank you.

We'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. Welcome back.

Um, so yeah, we were just about to talk about the cast here, Dan, uh, cast of characters. Cooper Hoffman, uh, Phil Sy Horsman's son. Phil Sun Hoffman. Um, he looks so much like Chris Kline.

Chris Kline. Don't you think? Oh, fucking, uh, fucking hot tub. Yeah.

My leg wasn't bugging me too much, and the weather was so nice. And every day after school, Lisa and I would go to her house to fucking have a hot tub. It's really funny. What the fucking hot tub or how much it was like, fucking, fucking hot tub.

Oh, fucking hot tub. Yeah. He also looks exactly like his mother. I had to look her up to see who's my, uh, costume designer, Mimi O'Donnell.

Uh, Mimi. Uh, Mimi, Jesus Christ. What was that? What was, what was the angle on that one?

Christ. I, uh, I think, uh, Coop's good. Right? Yeah, he's fine.

He's fine. Again, it's like, it's really the script. So it's hard to, hard to say for sure, like where the script ends and the acting begins a little bit, but I think he's good. I mean, like he has like, he has a moments for sure where I'm like, I buy this guy as a guy.

Yeah. I, yeah. I think some of it, it's, it feels too, like the writing or whatever. It feels very written.

So it doesn't feel natural for like some of the, like the way that they're talking and some of the dialogue. Yeah. You have a cat fight. I don't care.

I hope, I hope they do it. I hope one of them wins. I just want this part of my life to be over. Um, you have David Johnson as Peter McVrears.

Uh, I thought he was the best. He's, I mean, he's got the most to do certainly. And I, I agree. Um, he's also, this guy's got a promising future.

Did you, did you pick up on his British accent? Did that come through for you at all? Of course. Another liney, stealing American jobs.

It feels like, it feels like, yeah, can't, oh man, I saw it. There's some like new show. Okay. So you say show?

I don't know. I keep getting served as I think, because I live in Philly, but it's like a new show where people have to do the Delco accent. What is that? Is that a film?

You know, go get some water ice, that sort of thing. Um, but it was like a, they cast like some lane. She's like, well, I'm originally from South Africa and she's got the stupid district eight accent. They're nine, the district nine probably.

Prudence. Yeah. Vickers. Vickers.

I'm Vickers. Give me kid food. Um, um, uh, but she's like talking about how hard it was to learn the American Philly accent. It's like, why can't we just cast?

Lady just got somebody garbage can. Yeah. Oh, Joe, go move along. Yeah.

That's simple. Yes. Um, anyway, David Johnson, separate, uh, homie. Uh, he was also the best part of the movie, Alien Romulus from last year.

Still have not seen it. Yeah. I mean, it's got some good stuff. I, it's the FETI special where it's like half good, half good and half like fans, fans service, fun service, um, alien earth update.

I just watched episode seven of eight. How we doing? How's it looking for humanity? Oh, not good.

Oh, and then I almost wish I hadn't asked. Um, no, I'm into it. I like what a Timothy Olafone is doing. He, I don't know if you've seen pictures of him, but he's got this like spiked up white hair.

I gotta see this right now. It looks great. Um, and he's a, he's an android and he's, he's, he's very good. And what he's doing.

Oh, look at him. Yeah. I want to see like a whole fucking movie based around this guy. I like it.

I like what I'm seeing. He sort of looks like the gasified Malcolm McDowell in certain little, yeah, a little Billy Eil, Malcolm McDowell. Yeah, there you go. It's that caveman brow.

Yes. So you got David Johnson, uh, Garrett wearing as step-ins. Who's like, oh, step-ins. The cl, to trot the boards of step-ins is every action stream.

He, uh, he's like a big muscular guy. I don't know. That's like, tall drink of water. Yeah.

I gotta tell you, a lot of these guys are, I'm gonna say a little one dimensional, these characters. I don't know. Yeah. How about the part where they, the insane part at the beginning where they have like everybody go around and say their character names.

What, like before they start. Yeah. And they're like, well, I'm so and so, and I'm so and so, it was like the fucking Von Trap kids introducing themselves is crazy. It was crazy.

I thought, I mean, once we get into the movie a little bit, I think it just, it doesn't make any sense. But what? Um, uh, how would you say this? Tutt?

Uh, new, uh, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I don't know. I'm, I'm up a creek with that one as Arthur Baker. Yes. Anyway, he's Arthur.

We're gonna call him Arthur Baker, uh, disrespect, but better than butchering your name, I think. Yeah. Um, he play Arthur's the, he's a, he's a Godfearing man. He is the most religious of all.

And that's his thing. Yeah. He's one thing. Charlie Plummer plays, uh, bark of itch.

Um, who is I like him? I thought he was pretty good. Yeah. I mean, he's just like a live wire fucking psychopath.

Yeah. Just a psycho. Every King movie needs one. Just like the most evil guy you've ever met.

Yeah. I mean, like that was the thing is just, he feels like such a king character. Totally. Yeah.

I would say the most like actual juice any of these scenes have is the part where he's got his arm around, uh, Ray, and you're like, oh, what's he gonna do? What's happening here? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I guess probably any, any, any sort of life that, that, that this movie has is kind of due to this character because he is like such a wild card. Right.

He's, he's sort of, yeah, where everyone else is like a fairly nice guy. Even Stebbins, who's just like a neutral, like he's, yeah, I thought he was gonna be a bigger problem. He's not. No, I think he should have been a bigger problem.

He just gets sick right away, which I mean, that is funny. I'm like, he's like, you know, more muscular and like just bigger all around than everybody else in the fucking thing. He's in better shape. And he even says, he's like, I fucking go like 20 something years without getting sick.

And now I get sick on these days. Like fucking, it's only the second funniest demise. The first, of course, being the first kid who immediately gets a Charlie horse like five miles. Yeah.

Which by the way, that would be me. I'll be like, yeah guys, it's around. I'll do it myself. Yeah.

How. Who else? You got Ben Whang as Hank. He's like the new.

Hey, I'm freaking Hank over here. Hey, I'm from New York. I guess that must be a fast talking son of a bitch. What do you want?

You got Jordan Gonzalez as Harkness. You got Joshua Harkness. Is that the glasses? That's the glasses.

That's the fucking guy who's like, I'm writing a story. I have to tell you are. Yes, the story. Harkness.

I bet you fucking twist your ankle and get shot ahead. Well, you guys, is it the story of how you died doing the long walk? As well as all Joshua Ochik as Colli Parker. I like him too.

He's like, again, it's like, these guys who have like a little bit of a thing where he's just kind of like brooding is like a like just kind of an angry guy. He's just pissed off the whole time, but not like evil. Yeah. He's mad at everyone, but not like directly.

Yes. Kind of like the big oaf in the, the Institute. Fuck you. Someone hit me a dumbbell buddy.

Look inward. You are one. We mentioned Mark Hamill as the major who's sort of like the tinpot dictator of this like post second Civil War America. Okay, this is what I don't understand.

Is he in charge of everything? It's impossible to say because they don't say it. They don't say he's a major, which I think general is higher ranking than major, but yes. So I assume that there's this whole other structure that is above him.

So, I guess he's just sort of like a figurehead like a celebrity military man. He's like the right secret of the post apocalypse. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm trying to think of like a guy like that. Who's the fucking guy who went Q and on the general who went Q and on Michael Flynn. Oh, Flynn. Jesus.

Judy Greer as as a junior. Raise mom. Yes. Maybe the most sympathetic character in this whole thing.

The one who's like crying mother crying mother. So funny. Like Judy Greer plays a I think like that's kind of her wheelhouse now is just like, I don't know, which is weird because I just think of her as like the development. Say goodbye to the sick.

But she said that to her son before going on a long walk. She's crying and everything. All right. Say goodbye to these.

I guess Josh Hamilton is in this as a fucking guess. I guess fucking guess, man. He's in it for like two scenes, one scene really where he you know, he gets fucking domed to for showing his son rage against the machine songs or something. Something even though we don't even know what is forbidden from modern crimes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. It's like, I don't know.

So like you read a book like Orwell's 1984, right? Which is like, it's just, you know, it's about a guy living in the society. And through that book, you get, you get not all the answers, but enough of the world is fleshed out. We understand how it works.

And you understand what the consequences are and what, you know, all this kind of shit is right. Thought police, whatever, right? And in this feels like a, like, a chapter, a couple pages out of a book like that. This event in like is something you would hear about in another story.

Exactly. That sounds horrible. And then, you know, you get like, and you know, what is it? It's a story about these kids, right?

And you know, in the movie, at least we don't get anybody's fucking backstory really besides Gary, like fucking McReeze tells his story, whatever. By the way, how funny is it? How many of these scenes start with someone being like, Hey, by the way, what was that you were saying earlier about? You know, at mile 157, what were you talking about something?

How did you get that scar? You want to know how I got these scars? He does say it. He says that line.

He does. It's only, I don't know. I this, it just does not feel fleshed out. And no, in a way, it feels like the rest of the country is not not watching this at all.

It doesn't know that this is going on. The whole like, fuck police thing just feels like what is the structure? What is the world that we live in? What is the most?

The most information we get is that like, whatever music is banned, it is now the case that all 18 year olds know all the words to my darling Clementine. Yes. That's all we know about the culture. Yeah.

That's like the song. Okay. And you know, like the royalty free song, the public domain song. So yeah, the movie fucking like it starts off with Ray, Gary, being driven to the long walk.

And well, it starts, it opens with like, we couldn't even film a fucking letter. Yeah. We were over, but you would have gone over budget by a dollar printing out that fucking letter and just like, spilling a little coffee on it to make it look, you know, like, worn. Yeah, like, what?

There's, I was like, that honestly, I had like a pit in my stomach watching that gets spurs out. No, no, no, please just print it out on physical paper. No, no, no. It pops up on like a chiron basically.

And it's like, Mr. Gary, you've been, you know, been accepted, your application has been accepted for the long walk. And so then we see your represent your state. Yes.

Right. So each state, all 50 states have one kid and they say kid, you know, I guess everybody is supposed to be 18. But the first one who gets a Charlie horse set, like people are like, that kid's like 16, maybe. Yeah, they're like, I'd be shocked if it was 16.

But you know, it's like, you're underdeveloped, 16 year old calves, gonna cramp up on you. Totally. So like, is this some sort of, is it like a metaphor for like the military, right? Like, Vietnam, you know, not really.

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