The Madonna-Whore Complex Is Still Alive and Well — With Jessica Fern — S03E16 | Frenemies episode artwork

EPISODE · Jun 9, 2026 · 35 MIN

The Madonna-Whore Complex Is Still Alive and Well — With Jessica Fern — S03E16 | Frenemies

from And Just Like That... We Found Therapy - A Sex and the City Podcast · host Isabel MV

Charlotte almost masturbated next to her husband. Miranda went on a date with a dead man's phone. And Carrie got heckled at the Learning Annex for being unmarried. Season 3, Episode 16 is chaotic, and psychotherapist Jessica Fern is here to make sense of all of it.Jessica Fern is a trauma expert, attachment theorist, and author of Polysecure, Polywise, and her latest, Transforming the Shame Triangle. In this episode we cover:The Madonna-whore complex — why it still shows up in modern marriages, even open onesCharlotte and Trey's bedroom dynamic, and what her lingerie scene tells us about authentic desire vs. performanceWhy women judge each other for not hitting milestones on scheduleWhether it's ever okay to date your best friend's exThe scarcity trap Miranda falls into — and how to tell if you actually like someone or just like that they like youWhere to actually meet people when the apps have broken your spiritGuest links:🌐 Her website📚 Her learning platform📱Her IGIs he your Mr. Big? Submit your story: https://form.typeform.com/to/T6T0HPpsFollow the pod on IG/TikTok/YouTube/Substack @wefoundtherapypod / I love y'all ❣️

Charlotte almost masturbated next to her husband. Miranda went on a date with a dead man's phone. And Carrie got heckled at the Learning Annex for being unmarried. Season 3, Episode 16 is chaotic, and psychotherapist Jessica Fern is here to make sense of all of it.Jessica Fern is a trauma expert, attachment theorist, and author of Polysecure, Polywise, and her latest, Transforming the Shame Triangle. In this episode we cover:The Madonna-whore complex — why it still shows up in modern marriages, even open onesCharlotte and Trey's bedroom dynamic, and what her lingerie scene tells us about authentic desire vs. performanceWhy women judge each other for not hitting milestones on scheduleWhether it's ever okay to date your best friend's exThe scarcity trap Miranda falls into — and how to tell if you actually like someone or just like that they like youWhere to actually meet people when the apps have broken your spiritGuest links:🌐 Her website📚 Her learning platform📱Her IGIs he your Mr. Big? Submit your story: https://form.typeform.com/to/T6T0HPpsFollow the pod on IG/TikTok/YouTube/Substack @wefoundtherapypod / I love y'all ❣️

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